Posted on 08/21/2009 9:47:36 AM PDT by Bratch
It is a chilling question and one that has been troubling me for about two weeks. I read the low grade civil war phrase as a declarative statement from a commenter on a news story about the Congressional Town Hall meetings and it has been rattling in my brain ever since.
Ive been wanting to post about this question and today seemed like the right time since now Im not the only one worried about this question. In todays Washington Times, actor/activist Jon Voight makes this statement:
Theres a real question at stake now. Is President Obama creating a civil war in our own country? Mr. Voight tells Inside the Beltway.
We are witnessing a slow, steady takeover of our true freedoms. We are becoming a socialist nation, and whoever cant see this is probably hoping it isnt true. If we permit Mr. Obama to take over all our industries, if we permit him to raise our taxes to support unconstitutional causes, then we will be in default. This great America will become a paralyzed nation.
Do not let the Obama administration fool you with all their cunning Alinsky methods. And if you dont know what that method is, I implore you to get the book Rules for Radicals, by Saul Alinsky . Mr. Obama is very well trained in these methods.
(Excerpt) Read more at gaypatriot.net ...
For now...
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/21/barack-obamas-administration-kills-a-military-fly-over/
Obama kills 42 year fly-over.
I like the term: Cold Civil War
Civil War II
www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf
See my tag.
That’s the term I use.
“Is The United States In a ‘Low Grade’ Civil War?”
No.
Excellent free book for download.
www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf
Google is showing over a half-million hits for that phrase.
The South will Rise Again.
Look away Dixieland.
The reason it’s “cold” is that neither side knows which side the military will support. So, in a perverse manner, it’s the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction.
God help us all if this war gets “hot.”
I have recommended this everyone. Bookmark it and read it over and over. It makes more sense as time goes on. Even if you only use it to prepare yourself for the future. Don’t just set it aside, share it with your neighbors. www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf
1. Soap Box
2. Ballot Box
3. Ammo Box
The first two have been rendered ineffective.
Obama will either have to back way off or forge ahead with his radical left agenda. The backlash is going to overhelm him. It has to! America is not socialistic and never will be. Radical politicians have worked themselves into the driver seat but the car is running out of gas!
That is why I am for bringing our National Guard home and return them to the control of the States and not the Feds.
It’s the same “culture war” that has been going on for 50 plus years or so...
No, it is not. Just people expressing their with our reps.
This guy needs to get a life.
SB “expressing their anger”.
Its the same culture war that has been going on for 50 plus years or so...
I agree....It’s the hippie retreads and Viet Nam antiwar crowd in control but I think a monumental backlash is brewing that will put the final nails in their coffins...
I don't like the term but I use it because .....it's where we are.
Watching the Town Halls this summer and our President’s continued march toward Socialism, I came to the same conclusion. If so-called health care “reform” passes, the seeds for full-blown Civil War will have been sown, particularly if states begin invoking the Tenth Amendment. Clearly, the Silent Majority has had enough.
Hats off to the gay patriot!
Aren’t we pretty much always in a cold civil war over something?
Self-ping.
When productive citizens start capping deadbeats and blood runs in the streets, then you can call it a civil war. I would hope that there's a more peaceable solution though the actions of the leftist thugs of late would indicate otherwise.
that PDF is blocked due to “racism and hate” filtering on my network. summary?
As far as I know, no-one has started shooting...yet.
To my way of thinking we’ve been a cold civil war since 1965.
How about a “WARM Civil War”
Do you really think that is an excellent book?
Conflict.
For years, the liberals have refused to do business with the Republicans but the general public seemed oblivious to the situation. But they’ve suddenly been awakened by the health care debate and they’re ticked off.
I think the term “civil war” is a bit over-the-top but if the status quo remains in place after the 2010 elections, all bets are off.
IMO.
Stupid question. Not even close.
The states are in a cold war against the federal government.
With the Weedership pushing as hard as they are, they are likely to meet the goal, it won’t be lowkey much longer.
Absolutely. Post #15 thinks so as well. I read the whole book in one sitting.
Civil War II
http://www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf
Weedership? Do you mean the guy in the Whine House, or the Public Serpents in general?
this is a case of the government turning on we the people.
Here’s a perfect example of what this book is about.
Hispanic Group Attacks Obamacare Protesters
Isn’t that Thomas Chittum’s website? IIRC I read that CWII back in the late 90’s.
It is his book. I didn’t realize he had a website.
Bump that.
The answer is “NO”.
Someone doesn’t understand the term “civil war”.
We’re not even in a “cold civil war” because there isn’t a real “civil war” being restrained.
In the Cold War, we were always just 1 hour from full-on WWIII going “hot”, held back only because the heat would singe both sides horribly. It ended only because one side couldn’t keep up with the escalation of threats.
Nobody here has gone “hot”. Nobody is threatening to. It’s a future possibility if things keep going this way, but we’re sure not there yet.
Gettin’ tired of all this hyperbolic rhetoric.
What did you think of the book?
I don’t know if he still does but I definitely remember back during the Clinton years he had one.
We are not in a low grade Civil War. So, readers, just relax, keep buying guns, ammo and provision while the opposition keeps looking to Obama for handouts.
When the real war starts, it won’t be hard to subdue the lazy opportunists who voted this chump in. At the same time,we might clean up the street raf that victimize people by preying on the peaceful.
Loved it! Meaning, of course, that I was pretty much in aggreement with what he was saying. I’m gonna go back later on tonight and refresh my memory on the CWII link you provided.
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