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Voight: Is Obama creating a civil war in America?
washingtontimes.com ^ | August 21, 2009 | Jennifer Harper INSIDE THE BELTWAY

Posted on 08/21/2009 11:56:07 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

A Hollywood conservative has headed East. It's "Freedom Concert" time for Jon Voight. The Academy Award winner will join Sean Hannity in Cincinnati and Atlanta this weekend to honor fallen soldiers and present college scholarships to surviving children. Mr. Voight -- a warrior himself in many ways -- has been cogitating about the state of America, meanwhile.

"There's a real question at stake now. Is President Obama creating a civil war in our own country?" Mr. Voight tells Inside the Beltway.

"We are witnessing a slow, steady takeover of our true freedoms. We are becoming a socialist nation, and whoever can't see this is probably hoping it isn't true. If we permit Mr. Obama to take over all our industries, if we permit him to raise our taxes to support unconstitutional causes, then we will be in default. This great America will become a paralyzed nation."

Be outraged, Mr. Voight advises.

"Do not let the Obama administration fool you with all their cunning Alinsky methods. And if you don't know what that method is, I implore you to get the book 'Rules for Radicals,' by Saul Alinsky . Mr. Obama is very well trained in these methods," he continues, citing a television

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1 posted on 08/21/2009 11:56:08 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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There's a real question at stake now. Is President Obama creating a civil war in our own country?"

I believe this statement trumps all the other bullcrap. The dems changing their minds more than a prostitute in Marsailles, France on a Naval pier... and all of their utter bull crap of lies!

2 posted on 08/21/2009 11:59:35 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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3 posted on 08/21/2009 11:59:38 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I’m in! I’ve had enough!


4 posted on 08/21/2009 12:01:29 PM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

5 posted on 08/21/2009 12:03:06 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Who made the famous quote that not one weapon needs to be fired to take down America?


6 posted on 08/21/2009 12:05:23 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives; Larry Lucido; MotleyGirl70; earlJam

Pinging Jon Voight fans.

7 posted on 08/21/2009 12:06:07 PM PDT by Cagey
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Nationalize the banks.

Nationalize the auto industry.

Nationalize health care.

Who would have dreamed it could happen so quickly?

8 posted on 08/21/2009 12:10:46 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Cagey

9 posted on 08/21/2009 12:12:24 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Well, there’s at least one celebrity willing to express the same concern most Americans have. Too bad most celebrities are dumb ed down to even notice.


10 posted on 08/21/2009 12:15:06 PM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I am so glad to see a celebrity that actually has a rational thought process. Surely there are more like him that may just be afraid to speak out against Obama...


11 posted on 08/21/2009 12:16:28 PM PDT by free-n-TX (He's NOT MY PRESIDENT!)
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""We are witnessing a slow, steady takeover of our true freedoms. We are becoming a socialist nation, and whoever can't see this is probably hoping it isn't true. If we permit Mr. Obama to take over all our industries, if we permit him to raise our taxes to support unconstitutional causes, then we will be in default. This great America will become a paralyzed nation."
Be outraged, Mr. Voight advises.

Amazing, coming from a Hollyweirdo. Not used to that. I hope he keeps it up.

12 posted on 08/21/2009 12:18:13 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Cagey

People keep talking at me...cant here a word their saying...just driving around in JoHn Voights car.


13 posted on 08/21/2009 12:19:48 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Since they call Bush, "Dubya" then I must insist on calling Barry, "Hussein" *2009=1984 on steroids*)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

It would be the fastest war ever to take place on the planet. code pink, san fran homos, people who have no idea on how to work, hollywood elites, the press? I mean just who is going to show up to the battle field? lawyers, union goons? who are these people with out the REAL AMERICANS doing the heavy lifting in the first place?
“lets roll”... as a famous REAL AMERICAN said as He went to battle


14 posted on 08/21/2009 12:21:09 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Video: Obamageddon in 2012?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2321462/posts


15 posted on 08/21/2009 12:21:11 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Who made the famous quote that not one weapon needs to be fired to take down America?

Don't know if it was Khrushchev that said it but he certainly believed in it as Soviet policy

Peaceful coexistence was meant to assuage Western, capitalist concerns that the socialist Soviet Union was driven by the concept of world revolution advocated by its founders, Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks. Lenin and the Bolsheviks advocated world revolution through workers' "internal revolutions" within their own nations, but they had never advocated its spread by intra-national warfare, such as invasion by Red Army troops from a neighboring socialist nation into a capitalist one. Indeed, short of such "internal revolutions" by workers themselves, Lenin had talked about "peaceful cohabitation" with capitalist countries. Khrushchev used this aspect of Lenin's politics to argue that while socialism would eventually triumph over capitalism, this would be done not by force but by example. Implicitly, this proclamation meant the end of the USSR's advocacy of the spread of communist revolution through insurrectionist violence, which some communists around the world saw as a betrayal of the principles of revolutionary communism itself. excerpted from Wikipedia

16 posted on 08/21/2009 12:23:45 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Voight is one of the good guys. I’m a Minnesotan, and last year during the RNC conventions he was here with a support the troops type group and gave a speech- and the protestors were absoulutely nasty to him. He doesn’t back down from what he says!


17 posted on 08/21/2009 12:25:09 PM PDT by gore_sux_2000
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I loved Voight’s analysis, but Meghan McCain joining The View makes me want to vomit. They keep that little twit in the forefront because she agrees with the libs.


18 posted on 08/21/2009 12:25:27 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: reefdiver
I mean just who is going to show up to the battle field? lawyers, union goons?

Unfortunately no, most likely the National Guard of your home state followed thereafter by regular army troops in full battle dress with fully automatic weapons locked and loaded. Ready for that?

19 posted on 08/21/2009 12:30:22 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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To: JerseyDvl

I have a friend in AZ who owns a car Newman drove in an episode of Seinfeld, a real sporty one


20 posted on 08/21/2009 12:30:38 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Just got up from Bedroomshire)
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"There's a real question at stake now. Is President Obama creating a civil war in our own country?" Mr. Voight tells Inside the Beltway.

He is trying to turn "our own country" into a Communist dictatorship. It may take a civil war to stop him. If that turns out to be the case, so be it.

21 posted on 08/21/2009 12:31:16 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Who? ... Jacob Hacker, Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, Brian Deese, Wade RAthke, Bill Ayers ... and of course George Soros and B. Hussein Obama, along with a cast of leftist commie ghouls from Bezerkley and prisons everywhere.


22 posted on 08/21/2009 12:36:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

If you look at the big picture it is; right vs left.

It is downright dumb as the left are the minority like Lucifer.

We know who wins.


23 posted on 08/21/2009 12:36:27 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: JrsyJack
Unfortunately no, most likely the National Guard of your home state followed thereafter by regular army troops in full battle dress with fully automatic weapons locked and loaded. Ready for that?

If this all comes to civil war, the military (including the National Guard) will have to make a choice: the President or the People. Do not assume the military will automatically choose the former. Many, I'm hoping most, won't shoot fellow Americans in an effort to defend the Liberal Messiah and His apostles.

24 posted on 08/21/2009 12:38:11 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Citizen Soldier; JerseyDvl; MotleyGirl70; Larry Lucido; earlJam
I have a friend in AZ who owns a car Newman drove in an episode of Seinfeld, a real sporty one

Newman steps out of a black sports car wearing sunglasses. He enters the muffin shop and says, "If I'm curt, then I appologize. But as I understand it, we have a situation here and time is of the essence."

25 posted on 08/21/2009 12:42:54 PM PDT by Cagey
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I love how Voight just says it. His comments are right on with the radical nature of 0bama and what he is doing. And I really respect Jon Voight.


26 posted on 08/21/2009 12:44:59 PM PDT by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

More accurately,
the fight is between elitists who want to control us
and individualists wanting to live free of control


27 posted on 08/21/2009 12:46:41 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: JrsyJack

The Russian front does not put meat on a man’s bones.


28 posted on 08/21/2009 12:48:56 PM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Repeal 16-17

I hope and pray that you are right but recent evidence, Waco and Ruby Ridge, suggest that many are too willing to play the role of Praetorian Guard to an unjust government faction.


29 posted on 08/21/2009 12:51:27 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Bump


30 posted on 08/21/2009 12:57:24 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Let the purging of the RINOs begin in 2010. - MissouriConservative)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

It’s always nice to know that not everyone in Hollywood is a ragin’ loon.


31 posted on 08/21/2009 1:00:27 PM PDT by voicereason (I Don't Need SEX...I Get Screwed By Democrats Everyday!!!)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; StarCMC; VaBthang4; snippy_about_it; ...

I take it that most people are unaware of the VA educational programs for spouses and other dependents: http://www.gibill.va.gov/pamphlets/CH35/CH35_Pamphlet_General.htm


32 posted on 08/21/2009 1:02:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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Meghan McCain joining The View makes me want to vomit. They keep that little twit in the forefront because she agrees with the libs.

Doesn't bother me in the least. She's where she belongs, with the other Libs. I don't care if she *says* she's a Republican or not. The term RINO was invented for people like her.

What she's trying to do is hijack the term Republican, and twist it into something that suits HER - actual Republicanism be damned!

33 posted on 08/21/2009 1:06:59 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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I think civil war is exactly what zero and the loony left want. And when it starts, just look at who will comment on what is really happenimg. That’s right, our very own state controlled propaganda organ, the msm types. I can’t wait to hear the first lurid story from behind enemy lines detailing rape, mass murder and cannibalism. And don’t forget their batting average when it comes to getting the details right. The rape will turn out to be a 14 yr. old girl doing her 16 yr. old boyfriend, the alleged mass murder will be a 4 car pileup on the interstate, and the purported cannibalism is a very rare steak.

And when it’s over, it’s going to take for-freaking-ever to sort out all the details.


34 posted on 08/21/2009 1:09:56 PM PDT by mapmaker77
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The left wants to use the power of the state to kill their ideological opponents.
0bama wants to use the power of the state to kill whitey.

They both are looking for an excuse, and are trying to provoke a violent reaction to their policies in order to justify their crackdown.


35 posted on 08/21/2009 1:11:53 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: JrsyJack
I hope and pray that you are right but recent evidence, Waco and Ruby Ridge, suggest that many are too willing to play the role of Praetorian Guard to an unjust government faction.

Were those military personnel? Even if they were, a Second Civil War would involve millions of men and women in uniform having to choose between the People and the Liberal Messiah.

36 posted on 08/21/2009 1:12:03 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: JrsyJack

If they were to start another Waco,
it wouldn’t be shots coming from INSIDE their perimeter
that they’d have to worry about.


37 posted on 08/21/2009 1:13:28 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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>>>”Unfortunately no, most likely the National Guard of your home state followed thereafter by regular army troops in full battle dress with fully automatic weapons locked and loaded. Ready for that?”<<<

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


38 posted on 08/21/2009 1:16:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I bet the libs wish John Voight would just stick to dentistry.


39 posted on 08/21/2009 1:24:17 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220
I bet the libs wish John Voight would just stick to dentistry.

Or are they anti-Dentites too?
40 posted on 08/21/2009 1:25:29 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Well, it ain’t over ‘till the fat lady sings, and her limo just pulled up out front.

The first two can be reversed. The third one can’t, which is why we MUST stop it.


41 posted on 08/21/2009 1:28:05 PM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats piss me off.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Good for you Mr. Voight....now where are the other conservative Hollywoodites like James Woods, Kurt Russell, Kelsey Grahmer, etc...Speak up!


42 posted on 08/21/2009 1:29:23 PM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

“Or are they anti-Dentites too?”

Not that there’s anything wrong with that....


43 posted on 08/21/2009 1:29:37 PM PDT by TxAnn56
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I think Mr. Voight might be running for office sometime soon. I could support that!!


44 posted on 08/21/2009 1:31:11 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Scott Speicher, American Hero, Rest in Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

scary bump


45 posted on 08/21/2009 1:33:24 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: La Enchiladita

me too....hi Dita!


46 posted on 08/21/2009 1:34:07 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

If so that would certainly resonate with all the Lincoln symbolism that has been part of this cult from day 1.


47 posted on 08/21/2009 1:35:24 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That's a good story but the issue isn't an indigenous resistance force versus an invading army. Would you have the will to blow the brains out of some 19 year old kid from Iowa to get his rifle?

That is the essence of this discussion and the point of my initial post on the matter. One should not be quick to glibly allude to the mismatch between the left and the right in a future armed struggle. The opposition will not be San Francisco drag queens in full dress but quite likely elements of the most powerful fighting force in the history of man.

48 posted on 08/21/2009 1:37:04 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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To: JrsyJack
The opposition will not be San Francisco drag queens in full dress but quite likely elements of the most powerful fighting force in the history of man.

It's sad that you see our Armed Forces as mindless drones who will simply obey any order given them. You seem to believe that if the Liberal Messiah ordered them to fire at fellow Americans, they would simply blindly obey. I have more faith in our men and women in uniform.

49 posted on 08/21/2009 1:42:10 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: JrsyJack
I was that "19 year old kid from Iowa during my first tour in Korea (really, I enlisted from Kelley, Iowa (population 134). If you've ever served or know someone who has, you would realize that "...the most powerful fighting force in the history of man..." will melt away like a snow cone in August if it's ever set against their neighbors and friends.

Plus, I don't need his rifle, and that goes for 90% of us. Really read that article (which was written in the mid-nineties, btw). It states that there are FOURTEEN MILLION deer hunters in the U.S. Think about what that means...

50 posted on 08/21/2009 1:48:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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