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Calls to tax junk food gain ground
LA Times ^ | August 23, 2009 | Karen Kaplan

Posted on 08/23/2009 10:10:52 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000

A surcharge on cigarettes has helped curb smoking, but will the same tactic work to fight obesity?

"Sin taxes" on cigarettes have turned out to be the most effective weapon in the campaign to reduce smoking.

Why not try it on Flamin' Hot Cheetos, vanilla Coke and Twinkies?

With increasing vigor, public health experts and think tanks are calling for extra taxes on foods and drinks that are heavy in calories and light on nutrition. New York Gov. David Paterson proposed an 18% soda tax last year as a budget-balancing measure, only to abandon it three months later in the face of stiff public opposition. Lawmakers in at least five other states have gone on the record in support of the idea.

Junk-food taxes are often mentioned as a way to help fund a restructuring of the healthcare system, though no one in Congress has endorsed them.

The notion is catching on with the general public, however. A Kaiser Family Foundation poll last month found that 55% of respondents favored a tax on unhealthful snack foods, up from 52% in April. Support for a soda tax rose to 53% from 46%.

And 63% of those who opposed the idea said they would change their minds if the revenue were used to fund healthcare reform and combat health problems related to obesity.

A report this summer from the Urban Institute said such taxes are needed to ensure that rising obesity rates don't cause the average American life expectancy to fall for the first time in history.

"We are killing 100,000 people per year, so something needs to get done," said University of Virginia pediatric cardiologist Arthur Garson, one of the study's authors.

Many citizens object to such "nanny state" attempts at social engineering.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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Studies show that taxes on junk foods have to be steep and widespread to make a significant dent in obesity rates. (Rick Meyer / Los Angeles Times)
1 posted on 08/23/2009 10:10:52 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: TaxPayer2000

Nanny government telling us what is good for us and what is not.

Whatever happened to the freedom of CHOICE or does that only apply to abortion?


2 posted on 08/23/2009 10:13:28 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: TaxPayer2000

I thought “Liberals” where for “Rights”


3 posted on 08/23/2009 10:13:38 AM PDT by omega4179 ( -10 I0=Impeach0)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Legalize pot and tax snack food.

The future of Rat controlled California.


4 posted on 08/23/2009 10:13:43 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: TaxPayer2000
A surcharge on cigarettes has helped curb smoking, but will the same tactic work to fight obesity?

Nope.

5 posted on 08/23/2009 10:13:57 AM PDT by freespirited (The only thing growing faster than the deficit is Chris Matthews' man crush on Obama -- Tim Pawlenty)
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To: TaxPayer2000
How did we ever get along without BIG government?

They don't want to ban tobacco, they just want to tax you for it.

They don't want to end pollution, they just want to tax you for it.

They don't want to ban junk food, THEY JUST WANT TO TAX YOU FOR IT!

Geez. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I am starting to see a pattern here.

Way to go America! Elections do have consequences.

6 posted on 08/23/2009 10:14:58 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (January 20th, 2013)
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To: Ev Reeman

Any idea to tax the poor, I’m in favor of. They don’t pay their fair share of taxes now and taxing their favorite foods and diversions..beer, cigarettes, twinkies, gambling and the lottery. All great ideas from the people who supposedly love them.


7 posted on 08/23/2009 10:15:25 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: TaxPayer2000
Not if you tax sugar.
8 posted on 08/23/2009 10:15:27 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Its the government that is obese. Having gorged on our tax dollars for decades its grown into a fat sloth.


9 posted on 08/23/2009 10:16:09 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: org.whodat

Sugar does get taxed in the socialist states, to prevent people from making their own alchohol. Candy included.
Why don’t we just have a special “convenience store” tax.
Let’s drive all those people from the Sub-Continent out of business.


10 posted on 08/23/2009 10:17:04 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: TaxPayer2000

BUT, BUT, BUT the left wing anti-human environmentalist do not want any humans here so what will they say if 100,000 people do not die early???????


11 posted on 08/23/2009 10:18:16 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (I will always be a Soldier)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Bravo Sierra - want to fight obesity? Stop with the handouts to the poor. Let them actually go find work and they won’t be so fat. If they don’t want to work, they won’t eat. Either way they will not be as obese.

Want to fight obesity? Stop subsidizing sugar production and stop subsidizing farming. Let the market forces return to food production.


12 posted on 08/23/2009 10:18:52 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: TaxPayer2000
Many citizens object to such "nanny state" attempts at social engineering.

...when it affects them and not just those smelly smokers.
13 posted on 08/23/2009 10:19:26 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: TaxPayer2000

Tax what?? Stupidity would be logical here as that would be specific to out Communist Government!


14 posted on 08/23/2009 10:19:36 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Starboard

The complete everlasting rape of the American taxpayer is at hand.


15 posted on 08/23/2009 10:20:08 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Cheetahcat

out = Our


16 posted on 08/23/2009 10:20:08 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Starboard

The complete everlasting rape of the American taxpayer is at hand.


17 posted on 08/23/2009 10:20:23 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: TaxPayer2000

We already pay tax on all groceries in OK and we have some of the most overweight people I have ever seen. So taxing doesn’t work. Here junk food and milk are taxed the same — make sense — not on your life but this state was under a Democrat legislature for all but four years until 2004 when Republicans took the OK House and in 2008 took full control of the OK Senate which it had never controlled.

Oklahoma is a perfectly example of what happens when Dems rule a state. We have only had three Republican Governors and will add a 4th in 2010. We are 49th in the road/bridge category of ones that need fixed and replaced. Only a few school districts have really good schools while others are marginal at best. State Superintendent — always a Democrat.

Democrats will tax anything and waste the tax dollars on their pet projects. Oklahoma is a living proof of failure of Democrat rule with the amount of state employees and the fact the legislature has so many people and get paid so much. Found out last Spring that the OK Senate used to take the month of April off as the House debated the budget. Republicans did not have the Senate take off this year.

Oklahomans are waking up to the fact that Dems have a lot of talk and want to tax and spend on their pet projects even if it doesn’t help the State.


18 posted on 08/23/2009 10:20:44 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Define “junk food”. Is it the 4 bagels an office coworker used to eat every breakfast, or the two Oreo’s I’d have with lunch?


19 posted on 08/23/2009 10:21:56 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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To: Mojave
Legalize pot and tax snack food.

The future of Rat controlled California.

Nothing wrong with legalizing pot. Taxing snack food is absurd, of course.

20 posted on 08/23/2009 10:22:33 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: Oldexpat
Sorry, but we the do consume way to much sugar.
21 posted on 08/23/2009 10:23:08 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Your pothead President thinks so too.


22 posted on 08/23/2009 10:24:39 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

If the government defines junk food you know that is open to interpretation and so everything will be taxed. Anything the government deems unhealthful will be taxed. That’s how the government works.


23 posted on 08/23/2009 10:25:15 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: TaxPayer2000

this is one reason why I’m against a national sales tax. it leads to all of this meddling.


24 posted on 08/23/2009 10:25:43 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: Starboard

” Having gorged on our tax dollars for decades its grown into a fat sloth.”

I think that Teddy the Swimmer should be the poster child for government sloth.


25 posted on 08/23/2009 10:25:49 AM PDT by EggsAckley (There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply. W.C. Fields)
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To: TaxPayer2000

if you drive a car,car - I’ll tax the street;
if you try to sit,sit - I’ll tax your seat;
if you get too cold,cold - I’ll tax the heat;
if you take a walk,walk - I’ll tax your feet.


26 posted on 08/23/2009 10:26:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: TaxPayer2000

This is why people should have stood against taxing tobacco, smoking bans, lawsuits against tobacco companies, etc., even if they didn’t smoke.

If people had stood against that, government wouldn’t now be using the EXACT SAME METHODS to interfere in every other part of our lives. The only good thing is that now, some of those people who thought it was okay to use the government to control the behavior of others will now get a true understanding of why it’s not such a good idea.

Same with gun control, seat belt laws, etc. You should always do everything you can to slam the foot in the door.


27 posted on 08/23/2009 10:26:48 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Cash for Clunkers is proof that Obama is waging war on the poor.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

28 posted on 08/23/2009 10:27:30 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: EggsAckley

29 posted on 08/23/2009 10:27:32 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

30 posted on 08/23/2009 10:28:40 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Mojave
Your pothead President thinks so too.

Well, he can't be wrong about everything...as much as he tries!

31 posted on 08/23/2009 10:28:43 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: org.whodat

showing that picture is more effective than any tax on junk food. I think I’m going to talk a walk now...


32 posted on 08/23/2009 10:29:40 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: org.whodat

That’s true, but IT’S NOT THE GOVERNMENT’S FRICKIN’ BUSINESS !!


33 posted on 08/23/2009 10:29:45 AM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: nascarnation

34 posted on 08/23/2009 10:29:55 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: EggsAckley
Teddy the Swimmer should be the poster child for government sloth.

...and alcohol abuse.

35 posted on 08/23/2009 10:30:02 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: nascarnation

Yeah, him too.


36 posted on 08/23/2009 10:30:07 AM PDT by EggsAckley (There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply. W.C. Fields)
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To: TaxPayer2000
"We are killing 100,000 people per year

Less of a drain on SS and Medicaire
37 posted on 08/23/2009 10:30:15 AM PDT by uncbob (liquid drugs)
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To: org.whodat

Who defines ‘way too much’? You want the government to do that?


38 posted on 08/23/2009 10:32:44 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it*s the new black.)
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To: org.whodat

It’s none of the goverment’s business what we consume. Imagine giving them the power to snoop through everything we buy. They don’t care whether it’s healthy or not. It’s popular so they want to tax it.

PS: Some of these store that give you a store card instead of coupons have your name and address and keep that data to sell to whoever is willing to pay for it. If you sign up for one of those cards be sure and don’t use traceable information.


39 posted on 08/23/2009 10:34:39 AM PDT by sanjoaquinvalley (Long time lady lurker.)
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To: Ev Reeman

Socialists Ben & Jerry shouldn’t mind the fat tax, then. What’s another $.50 on their already overpriced ice cream?

(I’m against the whole concept of “sin tax.”)


40 posted on 08/23/2009 10:36:11 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: TaxPayer2000
"We are killing 100,000 people per year, so something needs to get done," said University of Virginia pediatric cardiologist Arthur Garson, one of the study's authors.

In the 1930's US life expectancy was in the 50's and today, the average American lives close to 80 years old. Yet every day we're told of some substance that is killing 100's of thousands of us.

Geez, you'd think our current gov't would be looking for more ways for us to die off sooner. The problem is that they want to get their taxes out of us first.

41 posted on 08/23/2009 10:36:46 AM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: org.whodat

LOL @ blurring out her eyes............... No way I would recognize her now!


42 posted on 08/23/2009 10:37:24 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: Ev Reeman

Another boon for the indians on the reservation. They’ll add snack food to the tobacco and liquor they’re already selling.


43 posted on 08/23/2009 10:40:03 AM PDT by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: Ev Reeman
Whatever happened to the freedom of CHOICE or does that only apply to abortion?

No, it applies to euthanasia too.

My Life, My Choices

44 posted on 08/23/2009 10:40:29 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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No, but I don’t want to pay their damn medical bills either are provide them their food. Ask your self, who feeds the hogs when they get to damn big to get their own food.


45 posted on 08/23/2009 10:43:32 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Alright, I protest. That picture shows a York Peppermint Pattie in the lower right corner. Those are actually lowfat, relatively speaking. It has 2.5 grams of fat, 140 calories. A Hershey bar has 13 fat grams, 210 calories. The food nazis should give me a tax credit for eating the York.


46 posted on 08/23/2009 10:44:46 AM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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To: org.whodat

Wow!! I just lost my appetite!


47 posted on 08/23/2009 10:50:45 AM PDT by LA Woman3 (Barack Obama hates old people...)
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To: Kieri

I know. I haven’t bough ice cream since it got way too expensive. I don’t even go to Baskin Robbins anymore. Overpriced ice cream, just like the overpriced coffee at Starbucks.


48 posted on 08/23/2009 10:56:37 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: TaxPayer2000

Just my personal opinion but I really don’t think the overconsumption of sugar is at the root of the weight problem for everyone. Not getting enough daily movement coupled with overeating (everything, not just sugar) is bad and will eventually cause problems.


49 posted on 08/23/2009 11:18:54 AM PDT by CarolinaPeach
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To: TaxPayer2000

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50 posted on 08/23/2009 11:29:20 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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