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McCain Says Public Option Must Be Dropped for Compromise
NY Times ^ | August 24, 2009 | JOSEPH BERGER

Posted on 08/23/2009 2:32:13 PM PDT by neverdem

Wading into the debate on a national health care plan, Senator John McCain said on Sunday that one way for Democrats and Republicans to reach a compromise would be for President Obama to abandon a government-run insurance program for the nation’s 49 million uninsured.

Interviewed on ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos” Mr. McCain, the Arizona Republican and 2008 presidential candidate, said that a public plan would cause many Americans to lose their private health insurance. Although he was not asked to explain, opponents of a government-run plan have previously warned that many employers would scuttle private insurance for their workers if such a program were enacted.

“Certainly if you have it, you shouldn’t have to lose it,” Mr. McCain said of private insurance. “But under the president’s plan, you would have to lose it in my view because of the government option. I believe that one of the fundamentals for any agreement would be that the president abandon the government option.”

Last week, Kathleen Sebelius, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, said that a government-run plan was not essential to an overhaul, a concession to United States senators who say such a plan could not win the backing of a majority of the crucial Senate Finance Committee. The focus shifted to discussion of nonprofit medical co-operatives, which are popular in some Midwestern states and more palatable to conservatives. But outrage by liberals supporting a government plan has made the fate of that provision unclear.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, the New York Democrat and a member of the Finance committee, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that President Obama “believes strongly in a public option.”

He argued that a government plan was imperative because it would introduce competition in the industry. In 40 of the 50 states, he said...

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KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; johnmccain; mccain; obama; publicoption; rinos
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1 posted on 08/23/2009 2:32:13 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Oh Crap. Rhe RINO’s are ready to sell out the nation, AGAIN


2 posted on 08/23/2009 2:34:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem
We don't want a compromise. The public option is not the only thing wrong with ObamaCare.

And since when is a compromise necessary when the Dems control over Congress is overwhelming?

3 posted on 08/23/2009 2:34:10 PM PDT by kabar
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To: neverdem

Will they also demand the repeal of the individual mandate? Will they repeal the ban on new individual policies being written? Will they... oh there is SO much else that is wrong with this bill.


4 posted on 08/23/2009 2:35:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Health care proposals need to be scrapped as they are unconstitutional.


5 posted on 08/23/2009 2:37:25 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: neverdem
He argued that a government plan was imperative because it would introduce competition in the industry

What competition? What "option" would there be if the companies could no longer sell individual policies???

such balderdash.

6 posted on 08/23/2009 2:37:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: kabar

As long as the Dems continue to insist on a public option, the Republicans must counter like McCain is doing. Being seen as an “obstructionist” won’t help our cause. Don’t let them focus the debate on the GOP “Party of no.”

Once they give in on the public option, is when you start to attack the concepts of a government designed co-op.


7 posted on 08/23/2009 2:37:58 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Evil-Mongering Angry Mobster)
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To: neverdem
Senator McCain! If the GOP wants to ever win an election again, they need to FORCE THE RATS TO GO NUCLEAR.

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8 posted on 08/23/2009 2:38:24 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (January 20th, 2013)
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To: neverdem

And I don’t want to hear it is being replaced with co-ops.

The co-op was the centerpiece of hillarycare.

NO NO NO JUST SAY NO


9 posted on 08/23/2009 2:40:24 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: neverdem

The only “compromise” is to shred every bill out there and start completely over!


10 posted on 08/23/2009 2:40:42 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: kabar
McCain is an idiot. He's going to vote for the co-ops which is exactly the same thing as a Public Option.

Time for him to take his meds and retire.

11 posted on 08/23/2009 2:41:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: neverdem
Redk says McCain needs to be dropped for the GOP to succeed.
12 posted on 08/23/2009 2:42:17 PM PDT by redk
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To: neverdem
Dear Senator McCain:

Sometimes, "compromise" is a dirty word.

This is one of them.

Shut your piehole. And retire. Please!

Your friend,

Okie01

13 posted on 08/23/2009 2:42:38 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: neverdem
Who in the Hell and what kind of an American would want this government control over our lives?
14 posted on 08/23/2009 2:42:59 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: neverdem

Compromise? No, I want it defeated, not cutting crappy deal.


15 posted on 08/23/2009 2:43:18 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: neverdem

I don’t think that Obama understands what competition means.

To me competition means that two entities compete and make each other better. His idea is that the government steps in and put others out of business then claims they must have been bad businesses.

When Bush (conservative light) come out with the medicaid prescription plan our company dropped prescription coverage for the retirees as quick as possible.


16 posted on 08/23/2009 2:43:40 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: Carley
Co-ops that are government run and governmenr funded and its board appointed by the President. How is that a co-op? That does not fit the definition of co-op, it sounds like a new name for the "Public Option Mandate".
17 posted on 08/23/2009 2:45:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Senator McCain:

No compromise

No abortion

No death panels......psst.....Sarah was right!

Down with Obortion Obama!


18 posted on 08/23/2009 2:47:29 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: kabar

Compromise is important to the dems as they want the republicans to be stuck in their tar baby also.

If it tanks horribly then they can say see we wanted to go all the way but you wouldn’t let us.


19 posted on 08/23/2009 2:48:15 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
The only “compromise” is to shred every bill out there and start completely over!

The only “compromise” is to shred every bill out there and leave it up to states, localities, and individuals because it isn't a federal issue in the first place. Because no sane human being would want the feds in charge of their health care.

There.

Fixed it.

20 posted on 08/23/2009 2:48:35 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: neverdem

No good. People have got to understand that any tiny part of this POS bill WILL lead to National Health Care, single payer and government will be the ONLY option!!!


21 posted on 08/23/2009 2:48:54 PM PDT by albie
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To: GeronL

... fast forward 4 to 6 months... 0bama is signing the Bipartisan (TM) Ted Kennedy Health Care Memorial Act, as McCain and other RINOs with shit-eating grins on their faces stand behind him and watch...


22 posted on 08/23/2009 2:49:29 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: neverdem

translation, (yes mccain served in the military and was a POW, etc etc) McCain is telegraphing he is willing to stab the USA in the back just as he was willing to sign on to AMNESYY.

McCain is the kind of useful idiot who would buy the lie about health care coops.

How the heck did someone so STUPID become a fighter pilot?


23 posted on 08/23/2009 2:50:03 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kabar
And since when is a compromise necessary when the Dems control over Congress is overwhelming?

That's our "Maverick": Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for the Republicans since 1982.

Whaddya wanna bet he & his peeps across the aisle already have the McCain-Kennedy-Feingold-Liberman Health Care 'Reform' Act of 2009 ready to go to the printers at this very moment.

24 posted on 08/23/2009 2:50:08 PM PDT by leilani
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To: albie

The NANOsecond I or any other employer can dump employees into the public option, we will. period.


25 posted on 08/23/2009 2:51:10 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem

Somewhere out there, that SOB McCain is conniving, scheming and conspiring to screw Conservatives. As I was finishing my Sunday dinner, I was just thinking that he would be meeting with obummer, Kennedy, Reid and/or pelosi with the objective of jamming this healthcare/amnesty down our throats,(or somewhere darker). As I was considering this at 4:04 PM CDT, Major Garrett started talking about the obamas staying at a “farm” owned by Wm. Jackson Van de Vender(sp?) on Martha’s Vinyard, a prominent Republican from Mississippi, or at least large contributer to McCain/Republicans in 2008. What’s up with that? Wonder who else will be there? McCain?


26 posted on 08/23/2009 2:51:19 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Bloodbath coming in 2010- and then come the elections!)
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To: neverdem

The last person we need involved in the final phases of the health care debate is Mr. Reach across the aisle and screw the conservatives. Juan is one of those who thinks passing some sort of legislation is an accomplishment. He needs to stay out of it and let this thing be defeated.


27 posted on 08/23/2009 2:52:02 PM PDT by Will88
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To: neverdem
Competition like the Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington Generals?

One side gets to make up all the rules, change the rules as they go, not worry about the cost since they own the printing presses, not have to make a profit, and the bosses get an exemption to use a better system. Now that's a level playing field.

28 posted on 08/23/2009 2:52:15 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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To: leilani

McCain is up for reelection in 2010.

McCain is trying to keep his public option employement.


29 posted on 08/23/2009 2:52:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem

How about dropping the entire bill you RINO.


30 posted on 08/23/2009 2:53:25 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: neverdem

How does capitalism compromise with socialism???

Answer: It doesn’t... capitalism is absorbed by socialism.

How do you save a cancer patient’s life by removing only part of the tumor?

Answer: You don’t... get it all out, or the patient is doomed.


31 posted on 08/23/2009 2:53:32 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Boiling Pots
As long as the Dems continue to insist on a public option, the Republicans must counter like McCain is doing. Being seen as an “obstructionist” won’t help our cause. Don’t let them focus the debate on the GOP “Party of no.”

You sound like a Dem or a RINO. First of all, McCain is the last person who should be giving the Rep position. This self-described maverick supports cap and trade and amnesty for starters. He is also against drilling in ANWR.

Contrary to the Dems talking points, the Reps do have alternatives. One of them, sponsored by Tom Coburn and Paul Ryan is called the The Patient's Choice Act

There is only one reason why the Dems want Reps to sign on to their socialist agenda. "Bipartisanship" means that both parties will share the blame for the consequences. Obama and the Dems are still blaming Bush for the economy and inheriting the deficit, despite passing the Porkulus bill and the supplementary budget. And the Dems have been in control of Congress since 2007.

When the Dems were acting as obstructionists during the Bush administration, they actually helped their cause of regaining control of Congress and the WH.

Once they give in on the public option, is when you start to attack the concepts of a government designed co-op.

And the Dems will blame the Reps as being the party of No because even after they made this "compromise," the Reps still oppose the bill. If we make the public option the centerpiece of our objection, it will be a major mistake. The entire bill must be defeated and we must spell out what is wrong with it, including the public option. We don't want compulsory healthcare insurance. We don't want Amercians fined because they don't have insurance or at least insurance that meets federal diktat. We don't want businesses fined for the same reasons.

FYI: Tom Daschle said some time ago that the Dems should hold off on the government option. IMO this is a phony bargaining chip so that the Dems can get some Reps onboard for this monstrosity.

32 posted on 08/23/2009 2:54:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Boiling Pots

Your argument would have merit if it weren’t for the fact that McCain is not simply posturing for the cameras - he really does want a “bipartisan” deal.


33 posted on 08/23/2009 2:54:49 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: longtermmemmory
"How the heck did someone so STUPID become a fighter pilot?"

Having Admirals for a father and Grandfather helped somewhat.

34 posted on 08/23/2009 2:55:00 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Bloodbath coming in 2010- and then come the elections!)
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To: neverdem

OK.

Hey McCain, you stupid son of a @#$%#!

NO COMPROMISE, you moron.

(Idiot still can’t figure out why he cost Palin the election, can he?)


35 posted on 08/23/2009 2:55:49 PM PDT by Nik Naym (I remember when the United States was a free country. I feel old.)
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To: JrsyJack
Competition like the Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington Generals?

Great analogy. I will have to use that one.

36 posted on 08/23/2009 2:56:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: neverdem

I don’t want a comprise bill that can be expanded incrementally


37 posted on 08/23/2009 2:57:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: JrsyJack

“Competition like the Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington Generals”?

...great comparison! I’m going to use that one.


38 posted on 08/23/2009 2:58:49 PM PDT by albie
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To: neverdem

UNCONSTITUTIONAL, no matter what the bill contains.


39 posted on 08/23/2009 2:58:56 PM PDT by ryan71 (We out number them so lets act like it)
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To: neverdem

McCain will always sell out when push comes to shove. He’s pathetically eager to win approval from the Democrats.


40 posted on 08/23/2009 3:00:21 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: kabar

Didn’t see your “great analogy” comment until after making mine. It IS a good one thugh!


41 posted on 08/23/2009 3:00:43 PM PDT by albie
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To: neverdem

This idiot had better shut up about “compromise”. Hey, McCain, the frickin’ RINO, yeah, you. I’m talking to you, “We don’t want a compromise, we don’t want health care reform, we want what we have now!”. End of Rant and I only wish I lived in Arizona so I could vote the pr**** out of office next year.


42 posted on 08/23/2009 3:01:37 PM PDT by calex59
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To: GeronL

No compromises McCain. No bill no nothing. Cut it out.


43 posted on 08/23/2009 3:02:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Right_in_Virginia
The only “compromise” is to shred every bill out there and start completely over!

No, we don't want to start over, we want to leave things alone. Want to change something? Change the tort laws. Change medicare and medicaid, leave the government out of our health care.

44 posted on 08/23/2009 3:03:23 PM PDT by calex59
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To: neverdem

Did he forget he was not elected the POTUS and was only the GOP nominee by default.

BREAKING NEWS SENATOR MC CAIN....YOU HAVE LOST YOUR MOJO...IF YOU EVER HAD ANY!


45 posted on 08/23/2009 3:07:58 PM PDT by not2worry (WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND)
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To: GeronL

“Oh Crap. The RINO’s are ready to sell out the nation, AGAIN.”

McPain is truly amazing!

NOW, it doesn’t matter what the PUBLIC WNATS.

BOOT that BOY OUT! He’s almost as denagerous as Obama.

It’s the PUBLIC of arizonia that put him in there and they need to be HEARD and properly represented. What the hell is with this guy?


46 posted on 08/23/2009 3:10:12 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: neverdem

I don’t want government death care and I will NOT “compromise” my PRINCIPLES to get it to make the LEFT happy. Stop it already, McPAIN! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!


47 posted on 08/23/2009 3:11:23 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: neverdem

McQueeg needs to be voted out of office in 2010.


48 posted on 08/23/2009 3:11:58 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kabar
Since when has a Demoncart EVER compromised their principles of evil to accommodate the “right”?

It's ALWAYS the other way around and WHY we are so screwed today. These empty headed “representatives” make me sick.

49 posted on 08/23/2009 3:12:51 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: neverdem

Has McCain inflicted enough damage yet?

He flipped right around on stimulus #1 and he could do it again on 0bamaCare. My trust for him is less than zero.


50 posted on 08/23/2009 3:19:41 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (What kind of organization answers the phone if you call a suicide hotline in Gaza City?)
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