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Mercury Marine union in Wis. rejects concessions (8000 jobs lost) Mercury Marine moving to OK
AP ^ | 8-23-09 | AP

Posted on 08/23/2009 3:10:52 PM PDT by Indy Pendance

FOND DU LAC, Wis. – Union workers at Mercury Marine put their jobs at risk Sunday when they rejected a package of wage and benefit concessions the boat engine maker said it needed or it would move their work to a nonunion plant in Oklahoma.

Union leaders did not immediately release Sunday's tally but said the vote was "overwhelming" to reject what the company called its final offer.

The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, Local 1947, represents 850 workers at Mercury Marine, the largest employer in the eastern Wisconsin city of Fond du Lac and the world's largest manufacturer of boat and recreational marine engines.

Mercury Marine issued a statement after the vote saying it will move many of its Fond du Lac manufacturing operations to its facility in Stillwater, Okla., over the next two to three years. The company said it would continue to operate the Fond du Lac facility for now under the terms and conditions of the existing contract, which expires in 2012.

"This has been a very difficult and stressful process for all involved," Mark Schwabero, president of Mercury Marine, said in a statement. "We will work closely with our team in Fond du Lac to develop and communicate a transition plan for this 24-36 month process."

Mercury Marine spokesman Steve Fleming had said last week that if the offer was rejected, the union and company could resume talks and hold another vote this coming Saturday, but its offer would not change.

Local 1947 President Mark Zillges said Friday there would be no further negotiations. He did not immediately return a phone call Sunday seeking comment.

Fond du Lac city manager Thomas Herre called the vote "a huge disappointment."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; doyle; manufacturing; mercurymarine; obamafailurer; ok; oklahoma; unions; wi; wisconsin
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Wisconsin has lost tens of thousands of jobs due to democrat and union control. It's not only happening in Michigan, it's happening everywhere in a democrat controlled environment, like California, Massachusetts , New Jersey, etc. Governor Jim Doyle is responsilbe for the downfall of Wisconsin's economy.
1 posted on 08/23/2009 3:10:53 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

Yow, this is another piece of bad news for Wisconsin. The union people will wish they voted the other way soon.


2 posted on 08/23/2009 3:12:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Idiots.


3 posted on 08/23/2009 3:13:11 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
This is at LEAST 8000 jobs lost.
4 posted on 08/23/2009 3:13:34 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Indy Pendance

Look,
If the good folks of Wisconsin want to work the fry line at Wendys instead of having a great manufacturing job, so be it.
They voted for this crap.


5 posted on 08/23/2009 3:13:40 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84)
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To: Indy Pendance

Idiots! They just voted thosands of job out of our state.


6 posted on 08/23/2009 3:13:49 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Indy Pendance

Union thugs putting yet another company out of business. Unbelievable the stupidity.


7 posted on 08/23/2009 3:14:25 PM PDT by albie
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To: Indy Pendance
Oklahoma, OK!
8 posted on 08/23/2009 3:14:59 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Indy Pendance

Zero will claim all the jobs in Oklahoma were “saved” by his stimulus package. The Wisconsin jobs will just fade away.


9 posted on 08/23/2009 3:18:28 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: Indy Pendance

I wonder who has put more people out of work. Obama or the unions.


10 posted on 08/23/2009 3:18:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (January 20th, 2013)
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To: Indy Pendance
In before Obamanation's press release saying that the company is 'acting stupidly.'

This could cause the Demonrats to further expose themselves. You KNOW they will be unable to refrain from commenting.

11 posted on 08/23/2009 3:19:28 PM PDT by gratefulwharffratt
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To: Indy Pendance

Accept concession or lose job...how stupid do you have to be especially in this economy?!


12 posted on 08/23/2009 3:19:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Indy Pendance

Galt’s Gulch is going to have to be freakin’ HUGH to fit everyone that will want to be there!
Let’s get Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee to secede.


13 posted on 08/23/2009 3:19:56 PM PDT by LibraTango (hithvptv)
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To: Indy Pendance
Ya know, I just figured those UNION pukes would pull that stunt. So, now my son-in-law is out of a job (soon). So sorry grandkids, but Daddy lost his job because some people couldn't pull their head out of their a$$ long enough to see the implications. Dumb asses.
14 posted on 08/23/2009 3:21:13 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Indy Pendance

Union thugs have a new friend in the White House but some companies are tired of being pushed around by them. Boeing has a thing going with the machinists union over the assembly line for the 787, it involves whether it will be in Washington or South Carolina.


15 posted on 08/23/2009 3:22:32 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: immadashell
Zero will claim all the jobs in Oklahoma were “saved” by his stimulus package.

That is exactly what he has been doing only some of the scenarios are even a more stupid way for him to claim 'victory' for saving jobs.

16 posted on 08/23/2009 3:22:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Indy Pendance

Another union victory.

*sniff*


17 posted on 08/23/2009 3:22:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: kcvl

They just voted to lose their jobs.


18 posted on 08/23/2009 3:23:28 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: hinckley buzzard
First stop Oklahoma next stop Mexico.
19 posted on 08/23/2009 3:23:49 PM PDT by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: Indy Pendance
The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, Local

guys, they aren't stupid. - this is the agenda

They know that they have plenty of time to wreck capitalism totally.
This international union centers are, by and large, Communist in nature and truly believe in the class warfare ethos.

I used to belong to 2 of these unions and the orders from the international bosses were at odds with what we knew to be common sense from a business point of view.

as long as there is no right to work then the unions are protected and capitalism will fail.

20 posted on 08/23/2009 3:24:56 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: gratefulwharffratt

Wee wee wee’d all the way home... Fond du Lac will become a ghost town.


21 posted on 08/23/2009 3:26:32 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bill1952

The company will be moving to a right to work state...Oklahoma.

Oklahoma’s Right to Work law went into effect on September 28, 2001


22 posted on 08/23/2009 3:27:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Secret Agent Man

They seem to forget, that the membership needs to have jobs for there to be a union.

Dumbasses....


23 posted on 08/23/2009 3:27:18 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: Indy Pendance

I just don’t understand the mindset. There aren’t going to be any jobs to replace these. It’s better to take a pay cut in this economy rather than lose a factory like this.

Eventually, there will be new jobs, but they won’t be high-paying jobs for uneducated laborers.


24 posted on 08/23/2009 3:27:30 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: jazusamo

Honestly, I hope Boeing moves. Likewise with Merc.


25 posted on 08/23/2009 3:27:52 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LibraTango

HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!

Don’t forgit Georgia..


26 posted on 08/23/2009 3:28:11 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: albie

“Union thugs putting yet another company out of business. Unbelievable the stupidity.”

They didn’t put the company out of business; they just put all their workers in Fond du Lac out of work plus all the community relying on that Mercury payroll.

Union members have to be the most brain dead people in the world.


27 posted on 08/23/2009 3:28:41 PM PDT by burroak
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To: LibraTango

I prefer Mulligans Valley ,,, but you’re right ,, it’s gonna have to be a BIG valley.


28 posted on 08/23/2009 3:29:15 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: albie

Same thing happened on the Big Island of Hawaii and the sugar industry in the ‘80s. The sugar company said it needed wage concessions to stay in business - opened it’s books to the employees to show that it did indeed need to cut their compensation to stay in business (Honapau I think was the town most affected). The employees voted almost unanimously NOT to accept a pay cut. The sugar mill/plantation promptly shut its doors, and the area has been depressed eceonomically ever since. Some Japanese businessmen bought up about $20,000,000 worth of land to start a resort in the ‘90s. The same Hawaiian dickheads took them to court to prevent them from building a resort and the dickheads won. The Japanese sold at a 90% loss, and now no one will buy anything or even attempt to start any business in the area because of the morons who live there. The richly deserve to live in poverty. The only problem I have with it is that my federal tax dollars go to welfare to support the lazy a$$holes there.


29 posted on 08/23/2009 3:29:53 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Indy Pendance

Mercury Marine issued a statement after the vote saying it will move many of its Fond du Lac manufacturing operations to its facility in Stillwater, Okla., over the next two to three years.

The company said it would continue to operate the Fond du Lac facility for now under the terms and conditions of the existing contract, which expires in 2012.
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So pretty much all of the output and mfr. machinery will be sabotaged over the next 24-36 months.


30 posted on 08/23/2009 3:30:10 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: MediaMole

What’s going to become of that pretty plant, with the ponds off the freeway? Poor, poor Fond du Lac. A town of 50k+ will become nothing. It’s a sad, sad day.


31 posted on 08/23/2009 3:30:36 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: holdonnow; HonestConservative; STARWISE

ping


32 posted on 08/23/2009 3:31:15 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ez 38 Pray.)
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To: Indy Pendance

guess they figure the messiah will take the loaves and fishes and multiply em for the union thugs of Mercury to eat.....print up some more money...

Guess people will buy Jap outboards or OMC motors made by Bombardiere (in Canada I beleive....)


33 posted on 08/23/2009 3:31:44 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Indy Pendance

In the end though the union bosses know that without the membership, the monies in the “strike funds” belongs to them. Got to be in the millions for them to advocate this form of economic suicide.


34 posted on 08/23/2009 3:31:49 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: Secret Agent Man
So many of the rank and file are blind to the reality of our economic plight.

My president of my local was just telling me how great the Cash for Clunker program is and how this will turn the tide.

When I pointed out that 60% of the "clunkers" were american brands, and 70% of the cars sold were Hondas and Toyotas, he called me "one of those rightwing nutjobs".

35 posted on 08/23/2009 3:31:57 PM PDT by exnavy (I'll keep my God and my guns, the dems can keep the change.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Looks like Oklahoma is getting a lot of jobs...and good that this company did not ship those jobs overseas.


36 posted on 08/23/2009 3:32:15 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal alien amnesty is anti-American bigotry)
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To: from occupied ga

Bottom line: Hawaii democrats, Wisconsin democrats, doesn’t matter. Democrats = FAILURE


37 posted on 08/23/2009 3:33:26 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: southernerwithanattitude

You’re probably right, but I was going to say, at least they are keeping the jobs in the US. Folks in Wisconsin that want a job should be able to make this move.


38 posted on 08/23/2009 3:33:50 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Hoodat

Kiss their butts and jobs bye bye. Morons but that’s what unions are. Glad for OK.


39 posted on 08/23/2009 3:34:21 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: exnavy

Not only that, lots of those Hondas and Toyotas were made here in America by non-union workers.


40 posted on 08/23/2009 3:34:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: southernerwithanattitude

Parker Pen, has/had a plant in Janesville for years. They are shutting it down and moving it’s mfg to Mexico. Some employees will relocate. Others will lose jobs.
This was just announced yesterday throughout the industry.


41 posted on 08/23/2009 3:34:52 PM PDT by MarineMom613 (Remember 9/11 ~ www.the912project.com)
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To: Indy Pendance

Congradulations, union jerks. You’ve successfully killed Fond du Lac.

Twits.


42 posted on 08/23/2009 3:34:52 PM PDT by SkiKnee
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To: Indy Pendance
"Local 1947 President Mark Zillges said Friday there would be no further negotiations"

He's not worried. He'll still get paid until he gets his union pension. Even after the Locals members are long gone, they'll spend the locals funds till it's gone, and take a share of the locals assets (buildings etc.) when it is sold.

43 posted on 08/23/2009 3:35:05 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Ouderkirk

Why would anyone vote themselves out of a job? Are people this brain dead?????


44 posted on 08/23/2009 3:35:10 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Ping!


45 posted on 08/23/2009 3:35:56 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I’m really happy this is good news for OK. Wisconsin doesn’t deserve it.


46 posted on 08/23/2009 3:36:08 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Indy Pendance
Mercury Marine issued a statement after the vote saying it will move many of its Fond du Lac manufacturing operations to its facility in Stillwater, Okla., over the next two to three years. The company said it would continue to operate the Fond du Lac facility for now under the terms and conditions of the existing contract, which expires in 2012.

Poor judgment on their part, Allows too much time for sabotage.

47 posted on 08/23/2009 3:36:11 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Indy Pendance

Only Directive 10-289 can save us now!!!!

hh


48 posted on 08/23/2009 3:36:12 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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49 posted on 08/23/2009 3:36:51 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrat - The new Party of National Socialism. Pelosi and Kosmas - founding members.)
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To: hoosier hick

No kidding!


50 posted on 08/23/2009 3:38:18 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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