Officials Weigh Circumcision to Fight H.I.V. Risk

NY Times ^ | Published: August 23, 2009 | RONI CARYN RABIN

[Gordon Greene]

Public health officials are considering promoting routine circumcision for all baby boys born in the United States to reduce the spread of H.I.V., the virus that causes AIDS.

The topic is a delicate one that has already generated controversy, even though a formal draft of the proposed recommendations, due out from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention by the end of the year, has yet to be released.

Experts are also considering whether the surgery should be offered to adult heterosexual men whose sexual practices put them at high risk of infection. But they acknowledge that a circumcision drive in the United States would be unlikely to have a drastic impact: the procedure does not seem to protect those at greatest risk here, men who have sex with men.

Recently, studies showed that in African countries hit hard by AIDS, men who were circumcised reduced their infection risk by half. But the clinical trials in Africa focused on heterosexual men who are at risk of getting H.I.V. from infected female partners...

[Atlas Sneezed]

Can you suppose that maybe these villages had many traditional religious beliefs...but were generally secular in their morals.

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I think that governmental genital mutilation should rest on something more than your wishful suppositions.

[Osage Orange]

These study that I read.....It wasn't apparent, nor likely that the subjects studied were "filthy disease ridden queers" as you put it..

They were "straight" although obviously very promiscuous........

fwiw-

[Atlas Sneezed]

check the literature.

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Maybe you should cite the literature that support genital mutilation improving marital happiness.

[calex59]

BS...

[calex59]

BS to you also. Wash your dick, soap and water. There is no upside to circumcision. It is mutilation of infants and has no health value. It is done purely for religious reasons and so the hospital can tack on another charge when your child is born.

[Osage Orange]

Oh...I'm sure it's out there somewhere.

I assure you I read it...and quite likely here on FR.

It was a real study with real results.....

But frankly I could care less...if anyone believes me.....because here on FR anymore...even if I sited page, paragraph and sentence with footnotes and government stamps...someone would question it's birth certificate.

You could look it up yourself...if you want. The net is your slave.

I'm tired....and worked a long 13 hrs today.

But I will give it a go tomorrow...and see if I can find it.

Being in the science field...it was an interesting study..and one that made sense to me.

FRegards,

[Osage Orange]

Listen beelze....

I never once said I supported "forced circumcision" ya dingbat! : ) I posted about a study that I read. That was it.

I'm tired....you go bark up another tree, eh.

I'm going to bed soon.......

Adios

[Osage Orange]

Whatever....

I read it...and it was a scientific study.

I can't help it...if you don't believe it.

Look it up for yourself.....

I will try and find it tomorrow....I'm tired.

Take care.........

[Osage Orange]

Lol!!

[Atlas Sneezed]

I never once said I supported “forced circumcision” ya dingbat! : ) I posted about a study that I read. That was it.

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Obama’s CDC supports forced circumcision. Others like me posted opposition. You fought us with your “study” (missing any link of citation).

You’re working with Obama now, dude.

[Atlas Sneezed]

I read it...and it was a scientific study.

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Oh. In that case, I’ll stop opposing government forced genital mutilation.

[Graybeard58]

I’m not circumcised, both my sons are. Not a one of us regrets our condition.

As for that poster who compared it to a hair cut or nail clipping - I’ve never had a painful hair cut or nail clipping. My hair and nails don’t bleed when I get them cut and so far they both grow back, though I do have a bald spot now, that is probably due to my age though.

[Osage Orange]

Lol!!

I fought ya? ha!!

Gimme some slack here, beelze!! Geesh...lol!! Ya killing me.......

I posted about a scientific study...that I read about, ya nut! : )

BTW...look up the "link" for yourself. (vbg)

I read about it maybe 2-4 years ago...if my memory serves me correctly.

Hell dude...I'd rather cut off my own foreskin again.....than work for Obama.

Gawd...what's in the H20 here tonight!?!?!?

ROFLOL!!

Good nite dude........

[Will88]

Underlying any discussion of circumcision or not is the extreme reluctance of most circumcised males to even consider that their parents made the wrong decision for them, or that they made the wrong decision for their son(s).

I say teach boys good hygiene and let them decide when they’re adults, at least if the decision is not dictated by religious beliefs.

[TFMcGuire]

Maybe start with the legislature! At least the statists.

And finish with the Executive.

Lol

[Atlas Sneezed]

Cheerful and goofy isn’t persuasive, I’m afraid.

[fwdude]

This whole thing reminds me of the incident several years ago when Texas Governor Rick Perry wanted to make vaccination against HPV mandatory for all school aged girls, implying that the girls would eventually become sexually promiscuous, contract the virus and come down with the potentially pre-cancerous viral infection of the female anatomy. The public outrage was understandably deafening - the legislature acted and struck down this proposal.

This was one of Perry's most embarrassing moments. Hopefully it will be for Ø as well.

Interestingly, there is now some growing evidence that Guardacil, the brand name for the vaccine, may cause dangerous side effects, including death. So much for the remedy that's worse than the disease.

[Freedom56v2]

There is an irony here....

—Where’s the Roe V Wade crowd when you need them?

How can the government leave women’s privates alone, yet go after men’s?

[PghBaldy]

It won’t work for many reasons, ne of which is Africa has other strain of HIV. It is rare in this country for men to get it from women, not so for Africa.