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1200 vets mistakenly told they’re dying from ALS
Hotair.com ^ | August 24, 2009 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/24/2009 12:03:48 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Just as the Obama administration tries to reassure people that the government can manage the health-care system more competently than what we have now, one of its single-payer systems demonstrates exactly what we can expect from ObamaCare. The VA mistakenly informed 1200 veterans that they have amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), better known as Lou Gehrig’s disease, a 100% fatal condition. They blamed it on a “coding error” (via JWF):

At least 1,200 veterans across the country have been mistakenly told by the Veterans Administration that they suffer from a fatal neurological disease.

One of the leaders of a Gulf War veterans group says panicked veterans from Alabama, Florida, Kansas, North Carolina, West Virginia and Wyoming have contacted the group about the error.

Denise Nichols, the vice president of the National Gulf War Resource Center, says the VA is blaming a coding error for the mistake.

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KEYWORDS: als; gulfwar; healthcare; socializedmedicine; va; veterans
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1 posted on 08/24/2009 12:03:49 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Did they get a copy of the Death Book with their diagnosis?


2 posted on 08/24/2009 12:05:25 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Not funny.. but funny strange

this story comes out after the VA starts to distribute the “end of life” document that was banned under the Bush Administration that Obama has now allowed to start being distributed.

3 posted on 08/24/2009 12:05:48 PM PDT by Kitanis
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Hopefully none of them ate their gun after the news.


4 posted on 08/24/2009 12:05:58 PM PDT by SC DOC
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Did they get a copy of the Death Book with their diagnosis?


5 posted on 08/24/2009 12:06:37 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Don't you wish we could all be placed in a government run system like this one?
6 posted on 08/24/2009 12:07:05 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: massgopguy

I’ll bet that really got those 1200 vets all wee weed up.


7 posted on 08/24/2009 12:10:13 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: Rodebrecht
Don't you wish we could all be placed in a government run system like this one?

It'll be 100% fatal to everyone in it.

8 posted on 08/24/2009 12:10:25 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Rodebrecht

Nope.. I am on the VA system.. and all this news scares the HELL out of me.


9 posted on 08/24/2009 12:10:26 PM PDT by Kitanis
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I wouldn’t wish ALS on anyone. You basically turn into nothing.


10 posted on 08/24/2009 12:10:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

And the left keeps using the VA hospitals as an example of perfect government health care.


11 posted on 08/24/2009 12:11:59 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: massgopguy

probably...


12 posted on 08/24/2009 12:12:47 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Kitanis; Malsua
Quit fear-mongering, you right wing extremists! Why do you hate poor people?


13 posted on 08/24/2009 12:13:13 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

**I wouldn’t wish ALS on anyone. You basically turn into nothing.**

Turn into nothing on the OUTSIDE... but the part of you that MAKES you ...YOU.. doesn’t change until the very end.

a Hemi engine in a truck with no Transmission or rearend.


14 posted on 08/24/2009 12:14:44 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

My late husband was told by the VA that he had stomach cancer. He was terrified, as someone he knew had just died from it, only a few months after diagnosis.

Turns out he had an ulcer.

For many, many reasons, I would not trust the care of my loved one to the VA.


15 posted on 08/24/2009 12:15:15 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: SC DOC
Hopefully none of them ate their gun after the news.

The urge to do so would be strong, especially if you have ever seen anyone die from this terrible disease. Gradual paralysis, eventually just lying in bed unable to speak but you can tell they are still in their by looking at their eyes. Simply an awful way to die and these dumb a**es tell 1200 people they have it!

16 posted on 08/24/2009 12:18:21 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My mom died of ALS,it’s a terrible disease.


17 posted on 08/24/2009 12:20:25 PM PDT by patriciamary (9)
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To: SC DOC

That was my very first thought. Just imagine the hopelessness those folks must have felt.


18 posted on 08/24/2009 12:21:46 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My Mother passed away from ALS in March 2008. She went relatively quick, only 2.5 years. I know another guy that lingered for 9 years. His last working muscle that he controlled was one eyelid. He communicated with that one eyelid. He finally asked to be taken off of a breather and feeding tube.


19 posted on 08/24/2009 12:24:16 PM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: radiohead

My dad went to the VA for a checkup...did all the tests on his prostate...but he never was told he had cancer...until four years after the fact..by this time he was at stage 4...I wouldn’t trust the VA either....


20 posted on 08/24/2009 12:24:46 PM PDT by leenie312
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This is inexcusable and injurious.

If ever there was a good argument against euthanasia, boy, this was it! Now, gentle victims, find yourselves some good lawyers and sue the britches off the jerks who did this to you (and hope I’m on the jury).


21 posted on 08/24/2009 12:26:18 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Second opinions in the Va Hospitals are as scarse as an honest democRat. Welcome to 0B0z0 care.

See Michelle, I told you that we had plenty of space to put all of the old and worthless Americans and worthless depressed and disabled veterans in and get them out of the way. We could put about 50 million of them in that big hole. Then, we can use their estate taxes to fund the 40 million former illegals, who are now legal citizens and our voters and needing free healthcare.


22 posted on 08/24/2009 12:30:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: caver

but ..IT WAS his CHOICE...NO ONE ELSES.


23 posted on 08/24/2009 12:30:59 PM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

ObommaCare bump!


24 posted on 08/24/2009 12:32:37 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (NO PISE EN MI)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Did any of them take the “life not worth living” option??

Did any get assisted suicide?

Good Gawd, where is the Special Prosecutor?


25 posted on 08/24/2009 12:33:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Did I miss the DATE when this letter was sent?


26 posted on 08/24/2009 12:42:47 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a

The original source article says August 12.


27 posted on 08/24/2009 12:44:03 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Can we trade in the clunker we have in the White House?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Cash for Coffins
$6500 but you must act now.


28 posted on 08/24/2009 12:45:04 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (The Kenyan Warlord must fail !!!!!)
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To: BuffaloJack

We have a better deal with a cremation and a box for our ashes at our church.

Of course we haven’t seen ads to trade in coffin clunkers for new ones made by GM or Chrysler, yet.


29 posted on 08/24/2009 12:51:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: leenie312
And yet, the VA isn't the worst. My mother was told by her GP that all her aches, and pains and even lumps were just because she was too heavy. So, on a day trip to Minneapolis, she dropped by the VA hospital (WAVE/WWII) and they didn't let her go home until the surgeon could cut out as much cancer as possible.

Choice is what matters, the closed medical community in small towns can be deadly too.

30 posted on 08/24/2009 1:03:06 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

31 posted on 08/24/2009 1:11:53 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: massgopguy
"Did they get a copy of the Death Book with their diagnosis?"

Yes, a signed copy from Nancy Pelosi.

32 posted on 08/24/2009 1:14:45 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Thanks - sometimes finding key data is almost impossible. I would hate to have been on this list for 20 days, but I am glad it was not ten months.


33 posted on 08/24/2009 1:46:46 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: All

Y’all are missing the point. Problem was coding error on a computer.

And Zero wants EVERYONE’S records on computer in Washington.

Connect the dots here, folks!


34 posted on 08/24/2009 1:53:20 PM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: Kitanis
And a few weeks before that, they floated the trial balloon that disabled combat veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan would be forced to buy private insurance for their rehab.

I get the feeling these hacks are trying to condition veterans to the idea that the VA system should be folded into their national health care fiasco.

35 posted on 08/24/2009 2:01:16 PM PDT by FlyVet
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Life is a 100% fatal condition. My evil sister was once mistakenly told by her physician that she had breast cancer. She was relieved to find out he had made a mistake. She was relieved. I just wanted to restate that in order to make it clear who was relieved.


36 posted on 08/24/2009 2:12:11 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: Marty62

Agreed.


37 posted on 08/24/2009 2:23:53 PM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

hasn’t stephen hawking had als for like, 30 yrs or so now?
still in regards to veterans hospitals i would recommend a movie called “Article 99” kiefer sutherland, and ray liotta. great movie and (from what i have heard) acurate.


38 posted on 08/24/2009 2:51:50 PM PDT by madamemayhem (i don't like repeat offenders, i like dead offenders.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Just as the Obama administration tries to reassure people that the government can manage the health-care system more competently than what we have now, one of its single-payer systems demonstrates exactly what we can expect from ObamaCare.

39 posted on 08/24/2009 3:05:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

At least it was a mistake in their favor.


40 posted on 08/24/2009 3:05:36 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Liberals have no integrity, character, or shame.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

And Obama holds up the VA and the Post Office as examples for Obamacare. Oh, yeah, now I’m convinced!


41 posted on 08/24/2009 3:46:49 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This kind of stuff makes me afraid to take my diabetes meds when the VA sends them to me.


42 posted on 08/24/2009 4:08:49 PM PDT by Dmitry Vukicevich
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"The VA mistakenly informed 1200 veterans that they have amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), better known as Lou Gehrig’s disease, a 100% fatal condition"

Good thing that couldn't happen under a Government run Public Option.

43 posted on 08/24/2009 4:38:33 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (UPS and FEDEX are doing fine. It's the Post Office that's always having problems. - 0bummer)
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To: massgopguy

Same thing I was thinking. Can we trust any doctor participating in Obamacare?


44 posted on 08/24/2009 4:49:32 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: slowhandluke

My mother (aged75) was told her back ache was because of age and her doctor got her addicted to morphine for the pain...she finally saw another doctor (after 4 years of her treatments) and he told her, her back was broken in 4 places...He hooked her up with a surgeon and he fixed 3 of the breaks...the fourth fused itself after so many years of neglect. She still has some pain...but it is manageable.Her first Dr should be run out of business...quack/drug pusher


45 posted on 08/24/2009 5:14:29 PM PDT by leenie312
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"Well, everything was fine with your physical, but you got 6 debilitating horrible months to live. Have you heard about Dr. Kevorkian?"...

The Future is now. Could I get cheese on that soylent green, or does soylent green from a fat guy already include cheese?

46 posted on 08/24/2009 5:18:57 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: caver

“.......last working muscle that he controlled was one eyelid. He communicated with that one eyelid. He finally asked to be taken off of a breather and feeding tube.”

Yes. My Aunt. Identical story. So very sad. A lovely and vibrant personality in the form of an extremely active lady struck down hard and quickly by ALS. It was a real head spinner for all the family.


47 posted on 08/24/2009 7:06:18 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Based on the excellent comments here, I’d say that the 0bama Administration is already a caricature of itself.


48 posted on 08/24/2009 9:00:48 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I wonder how many of them committed suicide. This is so sick.

It is true that suicide among veterans is very high....but it is little understood that it is the old veterans that have the high suicide ratenot the young veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan. Indeed suicide rates among young troops is no higher than that of male college students.

49 posted on 08/24/2009 9:02:21 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Education is not the filling of a bucket, but the lighting of a fire." ---Yeats)
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To: Rodebrecht
“Quit fear-mongering, you right wing extremists! Why do you hate poor people?

Personally.. I hate being poor myself..

Why dose the government wish to keep it that way? And drop me into a health care plan that would reduce the care that I already have?

50 posted on 08/25/2009 12:05:04 AM PDT by Kitanis
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