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Scientifically Illiterate and Innumerate: Why Americans Are So Easily Bamboozled About Energy
Energy Tribune ^ | Aug. 21, 2009 | Robert Bryce

Posted on 08/24/2009 8:31:37 PM PDT by neverdem

Edited on 08/24/2009 8:36:17 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Two years ago, I interviewed Vaclav Smil, the prolific author and energy thinker. I asked Smil, a distinguished professor at the University of Manitoba, why Americans are so easily swayed by politicians and others when it comes to energy matters. His response: scientific illiteracy and innumeracy. “Without any physical, chemical, and biological fundamentals, and with equally poor understanding of basic economic forces, it is no wonder that people will believe anything,” he told me.


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1 posted on 08/24/2009 8:31:37 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The American people are going to find out what it’s like to be cold in the winter. Simple statement, but true.


2 posted on 08/24/2009 8:35:24 PM PDT by unkus
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The first gripe I had about Rush Limbaugh was how often he mangled the science and seemed proud of his illiteracy. Many FReepers are the same way :-(


3 posted on 08/24/2009 8:38:18 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: neverdem
But we'll have windmills! And the sun!

We can put windmills on top of our cars, and the air will power them! There are all sorts of green energy solutions, if only those evil capitalists would let us have the answers! /s

4 posted on 08/24/2009 8:39:55 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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To: Gondring

The first gripe I had about Rush Limbaugh was how often he mangled the science and seemed proud of his illiteracy. Many FReepers are the same way :-(
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Go eat a tree.


5 posted on 08/24/2009 8:44:06 PM PDT by unkus
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To: neverdem
A 2007 study by Michigan State University determined that just 28 percent of American adults could be considered scientifically literate.

28% sounds a little high to me considering how easily Americans are duped by the MSM and an idiot like Algore.

6 posted on 08/24/2009 8:45:19 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: Gondring
The first gripe I had about Rush Limbaugh was how often he mangled the science and seemed proud of his illiteracy. Many FReepers are the same way :-(

Not to mention the total lack of scientific understanding by O'Reilly.

7 posted on 08/24/2009 8:47:37 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Gondring

While I don’t consider myself illiterate, I will admit that there is much I don’t know about energy. For instance, my husband recently took a tour of the Grand Coulee dam in WA state, where the docent told him that the dam was capable of providing electricity for most of the West coast, but the power goes unused. She said that Puget Power buys the power from just one turbine, but there is much more available.

So, why are we worrying about alternative energy, when we have more readily available power than we need?


8 posted on 08/24/2009 8:48:46 PM PDT by Eva (union motto - Aim for mediocrity, it's only fair.)
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To: Gondring
The first gripe I had about Rush Limbaugh was how often he mangled the science and seemed proud of his illiteracy.

Why don't you expand on that Ace and give a few examples. Probably should zip up your little flame retardant suit as well.

9 posted on 08/24/2009 8:50:22 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: neverdem
I've found that a lot of the libertarians are somewhat illiterate about a lot of things, and make no exception for a libertarian like mr. bryce.
10 posted on 08/24/2009 8:54:45 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: neverdem

The riotous thing here is that the scientist geeks ALWAYS blame creationism. If only there weren’t a pesky God on their minds, people would be kneeling at the altar of science and the common man would be an expert on rocketry and globull warming.

In the meantime the liberal creationless skewls that fail to teach the kiddies what things like molecules are, escape any accountability. Homeschooled kids always know far more about actual science.


11 posted on 08/24/2009 8:55:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: neverdem

So, the commie-dem NEA agenda to dumb down the middle class into the lower class has worked, eh? I never could understand how liberal university professors could preach this crap, but its not because it is true, it’s because they want to indoctrinate.


12 posted on 08/24/2009 9:00:39 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: Gondring

OK, explain the “science” to me, please.

Be forewarned, I work in the electric biz...


13 posted on 08/24/2009 9:02:53 PM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: Eva

On July 29th of this year, Puget Power used a little more than half of Grand Coulee’s installed generating capacity of 6809 MW.

In comparison, Duke Energy’s Bad Creek Hydroelectric Station on the SC-NC border is a 1,065-megawatt pumped-storage facility which uses surplus power from the Oconee nuclear plant (three reactors) to pump water from Lake Jocassee up 1000 feet+ into the Bad Creek reservoir. Then during the times of peak demand later in the day, the water runs back through the turbine pumps generating 330MW per turbine (at full pond) for each of the four turbines.


14 posted on 08/24/2009 9:22:02 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: neverdem

I don’t see those literate, numerate Europeans doing much better when it comes to energy policy. Ditto Canadians, et al.


15 posted on 08/24/2009 9:25:38 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The beauty of the energy sector for a scientist is that crevo issues need never come into play. Energy is there, or it isn't--it becomes a matter of extracting and using it from there. Thermodynamics are independent of religion.

The general dumbing down is what happens when you have scientists who could teach school, who know the subject extremely well, but have not had all the required coursework in upper-level babysitting and social programming required to get a teaching certificate (so they cannot legally teach for pay). OTOH, those who have degrees in "education" spent their semester hours getting educated to educate, not necessarily learning the material to teach.

Still, making our children less capable has been a Communist goal for a long time, because the ignorant are more maleable.

16 posted on 08/24/2009 9:34:42 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Logically, you are quite right. The issue of energy sufficiency can be covered thoroughly without impinging on creation/evolution discussions. But our eminent Canadian professor tosses in the “biology” angle just the same, just to be sure we don’t forget that “real scientists” dictate the whole shootin’ match.


17 posted on 08/24/2009 9:39:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The riotous thing here is that the scientist geeks ALWAYS blame creationism.
What planet are YOU on? Geesh ...
18 posted on 08/24/2009 9:44:58 PM PDT by _Jim
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The only planet with chocolate.


19 posted on 08/24/2009 9:47:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: org.whodat

Most libertarians are for open and free energy policy


20 posted on 08/24/2009 9:51:32 PM PDT by misterrob (A society that burdens future generations with debt can not be considered moral or just)
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