Skip to comments.Torture-slaying trial, Day 8: Jurors resume deliberations (MSM Refuses to use Hate Crime Label)
Posted on 08/25/2009 7:40:09 AM PDT by jessduntno
Torture-slaying trial, Day 8: Jurors resume deliberations By News Sentinel staff Posted August 25, 2009 at 9:11 a.m.
KNOXVILLE Jurors in the torture-slaying trial of Letalvis Cobbins resumed deliberations this morning.
The panel from Davidson County deliberated about seven and a half hours Monday, ending the day without a verdict before returning to the hotel where they have been sequestered for more than a week.
Testimony wrapped up Saturday with Cobbins, 26, taking the stand in his own defense.
Cobbins is accused of taking part in the January 2007 kidnapping, rape and slaying of Channon Christian, 21,and Christopher Newsom, 23. The young couple were carjacked while outside a Washington Pike apartment complex and then taken to a Chipman Street house where Cobbins brother Lemaricus Davidson lived.
Newsom was shot to death and left along railroad tracks near the house. Christian was left to suffocate to death in a trash can inside the home.
Cobbins has admitted raping Christian inside the house, although he testified Saturday that she offered him the oral sex if he could help ensure her freedom. Christian and Newsom did not know Cobbins, Davidson or their co-defendants, George Thomas and Vanessa Coleman, who await trial.
If jurors convict Cobbins of first-degree murder, they will shift into a penalty phase in which they will consider evidence about whether he should be executed. Prosecutors will try to show his crimes are so heinous he deserves death, while defense attorneys will try to counter with mitigating facts.
Sixteen people were impaneled last week at the trials start. A woman juror, however, bowed out after Fridays graphic photographic evidence of the couples rape injuries. Fifteen jurors remain, but only 12 are taking part in the deliberations.
More details as they develop online and in Wednesdays News Sentinel.
(Excerpt) Read more at knoxnews.com ...
Poor woman was overcome by the sadistic animals behavior...this is one of the most brutal and heinous hate crimes in history...but no one is calling it that...this is an outrage...wonder why Eric Holder isn't talking about this to us cowards? Probably a very "teachable moment" for America...
I don’t get it. Where does the “hate crime” element come in? And also, since when are conservatives in favor of that classification in crimes?
“I dont get it. Where does the hate crime element come in? And also, since when are conservatives in favor of that classification in crimes?”
Where did I say I was in favor of it? When it is white on black, it’s called a “hate crime” when it’s black on white, as in this case, it isn’t...don’t bother to keep up and don’t put words in my mouth...and no, you don’t “get it” do you?
It's little social vignettes like this one, repeated over and over, that make social upheaval and Civil War more palatable to the common man on the street. Really now, what other recourse is there when it is open season on you and your family simply due to your skin tone?
Since the victims are white, this has gotten virtually NO mainstream media coverage.
“What have we heard from the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and others who rushed to judgment and outrage as they condemned whites in the cases of the “Jena 6” and Don Imus when he referred to the Rutgers ladies basketball team as “nappy-headed ho’s”? Where were the national news media and public officials? You can bet the rent money that were the victims black and the perpetrators white, Knoxville would have been inundated with TV crews, with Jackson, Sharpton and other civil rights spokesmen and politicians from both parties condemning racism, possibly blaming it all on George Bush...”
- Walter Willams
They sprayed the inside of her mouth with bleach to destroy evidence of oral sex, wrapped her in the fetal position with duct tape, put her in a plastic bag and left her in the can to slowly suffocate.
I have absolutely no concern for the race of any of the people involved. For a crime like this, regardless of race, I would happily get out the needle-nose pliers, the Drano, and the electric drill with the concrete bit. If even one of these bastards ever sees daylight again, it should only be long enough to kiss their ass goodbye before they eat a .50 caliber slug.
“The panel from Davidson County deliberated about seven and a half hours Monday, ending the day without a verdict “
What’s taking so long?
What’s the racial make up of the jury?
Whats taking so long?
I'm guessing they are under a lot of pressure to come up with something that won't be "inflammatory."
“Whats the racial make up of the jury?”
Given the length of time they are spending on this verdict, I wonder what the Species make up is....
Your response is little different that the crime in question. Execute them quickly and humanely if the jury decides to, and do it knowing that the final justice is left to the Almighty.
Hate the crime, punish the criminal, enjoy neither.
They sure whitewashed the description of the crime in that story.
I read the other day that there are only 2 whites on the jury.
“Cobbins has admitted raping Christian inside the house, although he testified Saturday that she offered him the oral sex if he could help ensure her freedom.”
Adding insult to grievous injury, this POS demeans his victim once again by uttering this statement.
I hope he burns in hell.
He’ll probably get probation and community service.
The MSM dares not report (or identify) horrendous actions by blacks and other minorities (even if factually true and repetitive)because it would be profiling,and BECAUSE they are concerned with white awareness of how prevalent, nationally, the crimes are. This of course would lead to more white prejudice against minorities. (Go back to you trailer, Honky, we're saving you from yurselves./s)
“Whats the racial make up of the jury?”
NASHVILLE - A jury has been seated in the trial of torture-slaying suspect Letalvis Cobbins.
His fate will be decided by five black women, two black men, two white women, two white men and one Asian man.
It took only a few minutes for both sides to settle on four alternates. They are all male. One is black. Three are white.
The jurors will report to the Metro courthouse in Nashville on Sunday afternoon to be bused to Knox County, where they will be sequestered throughout the trial.
Earlier today, an attorney for Cobbins told jurors it was his brother and an uncharged buddy who killed Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.
About hate crime--crime is crime, but the media see "hate" when it is white on black. Black on white is "understood" in view of our history of suppression of blacks.
I cannot tell you how sick of this I am and I refuse to take it quietly any more. The media are causing racism to fester in people who never felt it before, because the people can plainly see the unfairness of accusations and the utterly blatant bias on the side of the media. Media are siding with these "poor black victims of institutional racism"--these victims who have opportunities not even open to whites--special consideration and preference to everything in our society. If they choose to live in the public housing, drop out of school, become criminals, they are excused because they are victims!
If they choose to use their victimhood to apply to ivy schools, they will be considered on race and be admitted above more qualified applicants who are white or oriental--that's okay, though, they are victims.
Rant off--sorry, but this horrible crime and the media are just too much!
i thought the same thing at first,why so long. what we don’t know is how many charges there are they have to go over.
A panel of 16 people has been selected: 5 black women, 3 black men, 2 white women, 5 white men, and 1 Asian man.
Twelve of those 16 will decide Cobbins' fate. The other four are alternates.
Gender/racial layout of jury:
Juror 1: Asian man
Juror 2: Black man
Juror 3: Black woman
Juror 4: White man
Juror 5: White man
Juror 6: Black woman
Juror 7: White woman
Juror 8: Black woman
Juror 9: Black man
Juror 10: Black female
Juror 11: White woman
Juror 12: Black woman
Juror 13 (alternate): White man
Juror 14 (alternate): White man
Juror 15 (alternate): White man
Juror 16 (alternate): Black man
“Rant off—sorry, but this horrible crime and the media are just too much!”
I haven’t seen it often here (or anywhere) probably because it is so disturbing and so deeply disgusting. Holder, in my opinion, used his “cowardice” speech to chill us even further, or worse...to provoke us...and I wonder how many people are actually AFRAID to speak out about this because they will be charged with racism?
Eric Holder, the nation’s first black attorney general, said Wednesday the United States was “a nation of cowards” on matters of race, with most Americans avoiding candid discussions of racial issues. In a speech to Justice Department employees marking Black History Month, Holder said the workplace is largely integrated but Americans still self-segregate on the weekends and in their private lives.
“Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and I believe continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards,” Holder said.
Race issues continue to be a topic of political discussion, but “we, as average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about race.”
Holder’s speech echoed President Barack Obama’s landmark address last year on race relations during the hotly contested Democratic primaries, when the then-candidate urged the nation to break “a racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years” and bemoaned the “chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.” Obama delivered the speech to try to distance himself from the angry rhetoric of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
Holder cited that speech by Obama as part of the motivation for his words Wednesday, saying Americans need to overcome an ingrained inhibition against talking about race.
“If we’re going to ever make progress, we’re going to have to have the guts, we have to have the determination, to be honest with each other. It also means we have to be able to accept criticism where that is justified,” Holder told reporters after the speech.
I also could give a rat’s hind end what color they are. Terminate them in a way equil to their crime with extreme prejudice.
You’re right of course, it’s just the anger talking. I actually think the death penalty apparatus of the US is quite excellent in that you flush these turds and nobody hears from them again.
Actually, the national MSM have not covered this atrocity AT ALL. Outside Knoxville, it is not even a story. Had the facts been reversed, of course, and a gang of white low lifes had tortured, raped and murdered two innocent Blacks, we would have heard nothing else for months. One of many reasons Americans no longer believe the MSM. Warning: the jury includes many “minorities” who could ignore the overwhelming evidence and vote to acquit. These vermin could walk yet.
This should've been decided within 1 hour, they have the evidence, a death penalty verdict should have been the next step. This makes me nervous that this guy is going to get off with life in prison. He'll be a celebrity in prison when he should be worm food.
average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about race.
What my black/brown friends and I discuss:
2) Our crappy jobs
3) The Texas drought
5) beautiful women
A meaningful and thought provoking discussion on race is rather far down on the list of the most important conversation topics.
Most of working people I know have more going on in our lives than singing “I like to Teach the World to Sing in Perfect Harmony “ while sitting in a large field with Eric Holder holding court.
WOMEN ARE 5 AND BEER IS 10?
Conservatives are still not in favor of that classification in crimes. On the other hand as long as there is such a classification (hate crime)on the books, we feel it should be administered equitably and fairly,without racial bias, as should all laws.
guess that answers my question
What ethnic or religious group did the victims belong to but the perpetrators did not, and where and why did the hate factor come in? Spare me the righteous indignation and give me some facts I can use to understand the issues.
You mean the victims were white and the perpetrators were black? Well, then, why not say so?
Sorry. I got the racial make up wrong. One of those jurors resigned last Friday. Does anyone know the race of that one? There are only 15 left. Of course, you only need one to throw the trial.
Don’t get your panties all bunched. I’m asking a simple question, and it requires a factual answer. What is your problem? This is the first I hear of the case, and nobody says in the article that it was black on white. OK?
Replies #5 and #6 clearly reported the races of those involved.
38. Including 18 murder charges.
Multiple defendants, at least one of which is testifying against the others. The jury has to sort out who did what as best it can. If they don't dot every i and cross every t there'll be grounds for appeal and one of these people could walk because the jury didn't do its job.
I learned the races from those replies. My reply, however, pre-dates them, and in the body of the article it says nothing. Thus my confusion. Carry on without me. ‘bye.
There is only one defendant in this particular trial. They found him guilty this morning.
I'm going to guess we have a potential OJ jury, with at least several hold-outs for full acquittal.
“Dont get your panties all bunched. Im asking a simple question, and it requires a factual answer. What is your problem? This is the first I hear of the case, and nobody says in the article that it was black on white. OK?”
Learn a little about a topic before you jump on it..OK,Lumpy? My problem is getting slammed, having my reasoning attacked and being talked down to by an ill informed pseudo intellectual going off half cocked. OK? My panties aren’t bunched, as you so politely put it...is this your idea of an apology for being such a big mouth? By the way, your questions to me require nothing.
WBIR TV LOCAL. VERDICT IN. MURDER ONE GUILTY. ALL LOCAL STATIONS REPORTING GUILTY!
According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly raped and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire. Christian's death would come only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Christian suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Christian was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Christian died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.
Confirmed by www.wate.com www.wbir.com www.knoxnews.com
What idiot DA allowed this jury?
Have people lost their minds?