Skip to comments.A “Lost” Fact in the “Rathergate” Mess — Part 1 (Bush volunteered to go to Vietnam)
Posted on 08/25/2009 5:33:03 PM PDT by Bratch
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From Mary Mapes' information for the show:
The outside panel CBS brought into to get to the bottom of the so-called Rathergate mess says. I recently re-examined the panels report after a source, Deep Throat style, told me to Go to page 130. When I did, heres the startling piece of information I found:
Mapes had information prior to the airing of the September 8  Segment that President Bush, while in the TexANG [Texas Air National Guard] did volunteer for service in Vietnam but was turned down in favor of more experienced pilots. For example, a flight instructor who served in the TexANG with Lieutenant Bush advised Mapes in 1999 that Lieutenant Bush did want to go to Vietnam but others went first. Similarly, several others advised Mapes in 1999, and again in 2004 before September 8, that Lieutenant Bush had volunteered to go to Vietnam but did not have enough flight hours to qualify.
I read a article years ago, some conservative said about getting into the mindset of liberals. If something to a liberal “should” be true, it therefore is whether it can be proven otherwise or not. Liberals really believed Bush was AWOL during Vietnam, thats why the Mission Accomplished carrier landing outraged them so much.
Because Dan Rather and Mary Mapes outright lied
in an attempt to slime Pres. Bush, right before
the the 2004 election.
And because of this post and the whole thread ...
in the annals of FReeper history, an unforgettable
Guess you don't know many pilots. They'll do whatever is needed for the chance to fly. "W" was simply at the end of a very long line and got what they gave him.
End of story.
BTW, I VOLUNTEERED FOR the United States Army Infantry in 1968, and if you didn't do that, or volunteer for the United States Marine Infantry, you don't have the moral highground in this debate. Mary Mapes sure doesn't.
For more on the F-102:
Hey! Rather! Here's a memo for ya......
“W” was simply at the end of a very long line and got what they gave him.
That is what I figured. Top pilots were flying the Thud and F-4 Phantoms and F-8 Crusaders.
It was chilling ... a chilling, insidious
Thank you again, Tanker!! God bless your
clarity and curiosity on that memorable night.
On September 8, 2004, Dan Rather cited exclusive information, including documents to justify major CBS Evening News and 60 Minutes stories alleging that George W. Bush shirked his duties when he was in the Texas Air National Guard in the 1960s and 1970s. Within a few hours of those documents being posted on CBS Newss Web site, however, typography experts voiced skepticism that the documents had actually originated with their alleged author and Bushs former commanding officer, the late Lt. Colonel Jerry Killian. As the evidence mounted, Rather stubbornly clung to the idea that his story was bulletproof, and he derided critics as partisans and Internet rumormongers. When he apologized on September 20, Rather would not concede that the documents were forgeries, only that he and CBS could no longer vouch for their authenticity.
CBS Disregarded Experts, Challenged Laura Bush: ABCs Brian Ross reported on the September 14 World News Tonight that two experts hired by CBS News say the network ignored concerns they raised prior to the broadcast about the disputed National Guard records. But over on CBS, reporter John Roberts wondered why President Bush wasnt taking those memos seriously: The President has yet to weigh in on new documents about his National Guard record made public last week by 60 Minutes. Roberts also chastised First Lady Laura Bush for doubting CBSs memos were authentic: Laura Bush offered no evidence to back up her claim, and CBS News continues to stand by its reporting.
Sticking By His Smear: On September 10, Dan Rather responded to charges the memos he cited as proving Bushs dereliction were forged, telling his CBS Evening News audience that the memos were genuine and attacking any doubters as partisan rumor-mongers. Today, on the Internet and elsewhere, some people, including many who are partisan political operatives, concentrated not on the key questions of the overall story, but on the documents that were part of the support of the story, Rather castigated. But his lame defense ignored key challenges to the documents typography and content, and the doubts voiced by the widow and son of the supposed author, the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian. Instead, Rather chose to repeat his indictment of President Bushs National Guard service. Rather arrogantly concluded: If any definitive evidence to the contrary of our story is found, we will report it. So far there is none. (CyberAlert, September 11, 2004)
Memo for Record:
Never trust the press. Never trust the press. Never, never, never trust the press.
During Vietnam I was a specialist in nuclear missiles. I was stationed opposite Soviet and Warsaw Pact forces. No nukes in VN.
“that George W. Bush, the alleged slacker, had in fact volunteered to go to Vietnam....”
George Bush jr. had more balls than the microscopic prick obuma could pick up in a marble factory. Why am I not surprised.
|Never trust the press. Never trust the press. Never, never, never trust the press.
Rathergate makes you wonder about other documents the MSM is said to have vetted for a presidential election.
They didn’t get outraged until the war went south and then ug that picture out. I’m far from a fan of GWB or neoconservatism, but the “Mission Accomplished” meme is idiotic to say the least. Even a teaspoon of research will show that the banner was refering to the specific crew on that ship who were cycling home.
I remember clearly reading about his volunteering to go. Don’t recall when or where, but I knew that fact and I feel sure it came from FR way back during the flap over the issue.
Liberals really believed Bush was AWOL during Vietnam, thats why the Mission Accomplished carrier landing outraged them so much.
How do you know that? Where did they look
for proof to back that up? They despise him ..
everything about him “outrages” their twisted,
It wouldn’t matter if the banner said “I love
Fidel and tie-dyed shirts” .. they are relentless
to this day in their attempts to destroy him and
My dad spent 3 years in a Pershing Battalion, is that what you did?
Mapes was such a hater...
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