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George Bush volunteered to go to Vietnam when he served in the Texas Air National Guard. Mary Mapes knew that when CBS report ran their story slamming Bush.

What did Dan Rather know and when did he know it?

1 posted on 08/25/2009 5:33:03 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: PJ-Comix

More on Mapes.


2 posted on 08/25/2009 5:34:08 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Moron Mapes.)
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To: Bratch

Keep going Dan — you are the best support for the W Presidency there is!

The truth shall set you free!


3 posted on 08/25/2009 5:36:12 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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And the proof is, what???
4 posted on 08/25/2009 5:40:05 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Bratch

I like humble people. But Bush never defends Himself, or His administration, or any of His decisions. This is no longer my calling to carry water for this guy. I was with Him for the whole ride, and He was just quiet on a lot of this stuff.


5 posted on 08/25/2009 5:42:06 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: Bratch

this is a duplicate thread


6 posted on 08/25/2009 5:43:02 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Wer glaubt ist nie allein. Who believes is never alone.)
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To: Bratch

Why is this Breaking News?


8 posted on 08/25/2009 5:48:33 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Bratch

Leftists have no morality.


9 posted on 08/25/2009 5:49:55 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Bratch; ohioWfan; dmd25; LUV W; LuvyaDubya; Humal; Merlinator; Just A Nobody; NordP; STARWISE; ...

Thank you for posting this link . . . Unlike Clinton and Obama, George W Bush joined the military (at a time when MANY of his generation were avoiding it like the plague) and served his country honorably!


10 posted on 08/25/2009 5:50:27 PM PDT by DrDeb
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Here at Free Republic we know the documents were fraudulent from the first day we saw them. An old Doonesbury poster known as Porsadgai (then) and Pors (now) forgot to un-check "kerning on" when he did the job for another old Doonesbury poster known as Migali, a sales rep for a firm manufacturing and selling fuel cells in Nebraska (whose last known girlfriend worked as an attorney in Family Services in Nashville, TN). He, in turn, knew the guy who said he'd seen Republican officials visiting the federal records center where he was doing his Air Force Reserve duty.

That last item was probably when Sandy Berger visited the site to move George Bush' military records around so that most of them simply got lost ~ they were, of course, rediscovered the week Sandy Berger copped a plea regarding his espionage trip to the National Archives.

Anyway, this is old homeweek for some of us, so we just naturally believed from the beginning that the Mapes woman was in on it. She knew "W" had volunteered for the Nam, and that's a strong implication that she knew the documents were fraudulent, and she probably knew Migali's girlfriend in Nashville TN for that matter.

These people should all go to jail for a very long time.

11 posted on 08/25/2009 5:50:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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bttt


12 posted on 08/25/2009 5:51:11 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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By selecting the F-102 pilot position, Bush would not have been assigned to Vietnam. The F102 was an interceptor that did not see much service there at all. It was nearly obsolete by the time he was proficient to fly it.


14 posted on 08/25/2009 6:03:44 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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For a refresher, here is a document I created in Microsoft Word and then overlaid on the Rather memo.


15 posted on 08/25/2009 6:04:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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I read a article years ago, some conservative said about getting into the mindset of liberals. If something to a liberal “should” be true, it therefore is whether it can be proven otherwise or not. Liberals really believed Bush was AWOL during Vietnam, thats why the Mission Accomplished carrier landing outraged them so much.


22 posted on 08/25/2009 6:16:47 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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For more on the F-102:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0185.shtml

DG


25 posted on 08/25/2009 6:24:38 PM PDT by DoorGunner ("...and so, all Israel will be saved")
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Of course, we all know the socilaists and their propaganda wing controlling the national press would never forge anything for political gain, now would they.

On September 8, 2004, Dan Rather cited “exclusive information, including documents” to justify major CBS Evening News and 60 Minutes stories alleging that George W. Bush shirked his duties when he was in the Texas Air National Guard in the 1960s and 1970s. Within a few hours of those documents being posted on CBS News’s Web site, however, typography experts voiced skepticism that the documents had actually originated with their alleged author and Bush’s former commanding officer, the late Lt. Colonel Jerry Killian. As the evidence mounted, Rather stubbornly clung to the idea that his story was bulletproof, and he derided critics as partisans and Internet rumormongers. When he “apologized” on September 20, Rather would not concede that the documents were forgeries, only that he and CBS could “no longer vouch for their authenticity.”

CBS Disregarded Experts, Challenged Laura Bush: ABC’s Brian Ross reported on the September 14 World News Tonight that “two experts hired by CBS News say the network ignored concerns they raised prior to the broadcast about the disputed National Guard records.” But over on CBS, reporter John Roberts wondered why President Bush wasn’t taking those memos seriously: “The President has yet to weigh in on new documents about his National Guard record made public last week by 60 Minutes.” Roberts also chastised First Lady Laura Bush for doubting CBS’s memos were authentic: “Laura Bush offered no evidence to back up her claim, and CBS News continues to stand by its reporting.”

Sticking By His Smear: On September 10, Dan Rather responded to charges the memos he cited as proving Bush’s dereliction were forged, telling his CBS Evening News audience that the memos were genuine and attacking any doubters as partisan rumor-mongers. “Today, on the Internet and elsewhere, some people, including many who are partisan political operatives, concentrated not on the key questions of the overall story, but on the documents that were part of the support of the story,” Rather castigated. But his lame defense ignored key challenges to the documents’ typography and content, and the doubts voiced by the widow and son of the supposed author, the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian. Instead, Rather chose to repeat his indictment of President Bush’s National Guard service. Rather arrogantly concluded: “If any definitive evidence to the contrary of our story is found, we will report it. So far there is none.” (CyberAlert, September 11, 2004)

30 posted on 08/25/2009 6:37:35 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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Memo for Record:

Never trust the press. Never trust the press. Never, never, never trust the press.


31 posted on 08/25/2009 6:39:01 PM PDT by centurion316
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“that George W. Bush, the alleged slacker, had in fact volunteered to go to Vietnam....”

George Bush jr. had more balls than the microscopic prick obuma could pick up in a marble factory. Why am I not surprised.


33 posted on 08/25/2009 6:47:25 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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Mapes was such a hater...


40 posted on 08/25/2009 6:57:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (Journalists - - stenographers for Democrats - it wasn't always that way...)
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Bush, his TANG service both pro and con including the Vietnam volunteering , and many other facets of his life were discussed indepth and many times over during the 1999 to 2000 general election. Too bad those old threads from FR are not here for review.


42 posted on 08/25/2009 7:02:36 PM PDT by deport
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To: Bratch; mazda77; cll; All
Essential reading from Aug 2004:

Q and A- F-102, Vietnam & George W. Bush

The money quote:

...Nevertheless, we have established that the F-102 was serving in combat in Vietnam at the time Bush enlisted to become an F-102 pilot. In fact, pilots from the 147th FIG of the Texas ANG were routinely rotated to Vietnam for combat duty under a program called "Palace Alert" from 1968 to 1970. Palace Alert was an Air Force program that sent qualified F-102 pilots from the ANG to bases in Europe or southeast Asia for periods of three to six months for frontline duty. Fred Bradley, a friend of Bush's who was also serving in the Texas ANG, reported that he and Bush inquired about participating in the Palace Alert program. However, the two were told by a superior, MAJ Maurice Udell, that they were not yet qualified since they were still in training and did not have the 500 hours of flight experience required. Furthermore, ANG veteran COL William Campenni, who was a fellow pilot in the 111th FIS at the time, told the Washington Times that Palace Alert was winding down and not accepting new applicants.... [emphasis added]
FR had it a long, long time ago. I guess better late than never that the SRM catches up.
45 posted on 08/25/2009 7:07:54 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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