Rush Tells Beck: 'It Is the Most Dangerous Time in My Life for Freedom and Liberty'

Rush Tells Beck: 'It Is the Most Dangerous Time in My Life for Freedom and Liberty' By Noel Sheppard Created 2009-08-27 10:28

"This whole administration is as radical and far left as any that the country has ever had. What they're trying to do here to communications is simply stifle dissenting voices. They're trying to wipe out any opposition...And the things that he is talking about doing -- and I watched your show for the first half hour today -- and the things he is talking about doing to shut down radio are simply un-American...It is a dangerous time. It is the most dangerous time in my life for freedom and liberty in this country."

So said conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh to Fox News's Glenn Beck Wednesday evening.

What follows are some highlights of this discussion about how the Obama administration is attempting to silence free speech in a country that was founded on such a principle (video embedded below the fold with full transcript):

* LIMBAUGH: This whole administration is as radical and far left as any that the country has ever had. What they're trying to do here to communications is simply stifle dissenting voices. They're trying to wipe out any opposition. * LIMBAUGH: If you look at Barack Obama and his track record as a politician, it is to clear the playing field. He doesn't like to debate his opponents. He just wants to get rid of them. This diversity czar comes from a fringe radical, Saul Alinsky type of background. And the things that he is talking about doing -- and I watched your show for the first half hour today -- and the things he is talking about doing to shut down radio are simply un-American. * LIMBAUGH: They can't go Fairness Doctrine because it's too obvious. So they're doing this backdoor route with diversity, and ownership, 100 percent tax on operating, in order to pay public radio, because they're supposedly fair. It's insidious. * LIMBAUGH: There are reasons for optimism, but you are right. It is a dangerous time. It is the most dangerous time in my life for freedom and liberty in this country. * LIMBAUGH: The whole concept of reporting has gone out the window. I call it a state-controlled media, because it is what they are. They are just repeaters. They take dictation from Rahm Emanuel, for the most part, and they simply run with it. * LIMBAUGH: They're not reporting - in fact, Glenn, this is a great point, how is it that people know what is in the healthcare bill? The press isn't telling them. How is it that people know some of the plans the administration has? The drive-by media is not telling anybody anything. They are discombobulated. I saw Chuck Todd the other day go ballistic because too many people are doing news now that are not journalist, that are not qualified, and infecting people's opinions in the media, and so forth. These people are - it's embarrassing. I think they have met their Waterloo, and their Waterloo is Obama.

GLENN BECK, HOST: Freedom of speech is under attack. Tomorrow night, I'm going to show you the thugs and the army that is being built, right under our noses. Now, joining me on the phone is radio talk show host, Mr. Rush Limbaugh.

BECK: Very good, sir. I want to play something for you. I don't know if you just saw it, but I want to play it again. This is the new diversity officer for the FCC, a newly created position. This is what he said, at a speech, or talk he was giving about Chavez's Venezuela, and how the media work down there. Watch this.

MARK LLOYD, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION: In Venezuela, with Chavez really had an incredible revolution, a democratic revolution, and to begin to put in place, saying that we're going to have an impact on the people of Venezuela, the property owners and the folks who were then controlling the media in Venezuela rebelled. Work, frankly, with the folks here in the U.S. government, worked to oust him and came back had another revolution. And Chavez then started to take the media very seriously in this country.

I mean, you are doing a great job this whole week, I saw Sarah Palin even Tweeted about what you are doing, urging people to watch. This whole administration is as radical and far left as any that the country has ever had. What they're trying to do here to communications is simply stifle dissenting voices. They're trying to wipe out any opposition.

If you look at Barack Obama and his track record as a politician, it is to clear the playing field. He doesn't like to debate his opponents. He just wants to get rid of them. This diversity czar comes from a fringe radical, Saul Alinsky type of background. And the things that he is talking about doing -- and I watched your show for the first half hour today -- and the things he is talking about doing to shut down radio are simply un-American.

Not to say that it is not constitutional, it is simply un-American. And make no bones about it, folks, Glenn is right, when I think he is maybe underselling it a bit as far as their intentions are concerned, the still stimulus plan.

Glenn, look at what they're doing to the U.S. economy. Anyone with a sense of economic literacy would know this is not how you create jobs. Do you not rebuild the private sector. This is being done on purpose! All of these disasters are exactly what Obama wants. The more crises, the better, the more opportunity for government to say, let us in. and fix the problem. And his number one opposition is on radio and FOX News, his number one opposition is on radio. They can't go Fairness Doctrine because it's too obvious. So they're doing this backdoor route with diversity, and ownership, 100 percent tax on operating, in order to pay public radio, because they're supposedly fair. It's insidious.

I don't think it is going to work in the end, because the American people are too informed, Glenn. They're too aware of it. Their radio means too much to them. Their free speech, freedom in general, means way too much to them. Just as they're fighting back on healthcare and a number of other things, so will they fight back on this.

BECK: Rush, tomorrow on this program, I'm going to lay out the case of the army that they are building right underneath our nose, and an army that he spoke about on the campaign trail. And if you watch the - what could only could be called the organization's -- or the administration's organ, anything involved with GE, or NBC, you've got now Jeffrey Immelt on the board of the Federal Reserve. You have him in the Oval Office consulting not only on healthcare but the financial situation, and they are an organ.

If you watch MSNBC, I contend, that you will see the future, because they are laying the ground for a horrible event that will be -- what they're laying the ground for, anything from the right, there's some awful event, and I fear this government, this administration has so much framework already prepared that they will seize power overnight, before anybody even gives it a second thought.

LIMBAUGH: Well, I think because of what you are doing with your television show, your radio show, what we're all doing here, I don't think they will be able to seize it overnight without anybody knowing about it. And you talk about the organized groups that they have got. Let's look at the healthcare situation. What's happening right now, the genuine passion, the real passion is in individual Americans' hearts and minds, individuals are showing up. They may be going to the web to find out where these town halls are, but they're showing up because individually they don't want any part of this.

The Obama army has to be bought and paid for. The Obama army has to be given marching orders. The Obama army is not showing up with any passion for Obama's issue, which is healthcare. They're showing up because they have been instructed to by bosses.

Now, this army that you are going to reveal tomorrow is probably going to be much the same way. I'm going to tell you something, Glenn, passion, love of country, truth is going to outmaneuver and overpower fake passion, trumped up people, who are just given marching orders and sent out to act in a certain way.

I'm really - you know, we maybe looking at Barack Obama destroying the Democratic Party. It's too soon to say that now. But we may be looking at that happen. There are reasons for optimism, but you are right. It is a dangerous time. It is the most dangerous time in my life for freedom and liberty in this country.

BECK: I will tell you, a lot of people would say, that's Rush Limbaugh, this is hyperbole, et cetera, et cetera. But would you agree with me, Rush, that this is not conservatives or Republicans, or Independents, talking about this because they don't like Barack Obama. These are Americans. I'm an American. I'm speaking to you as an American. This is bad for anyone, unless you're in the power circle. You don't want to go down this road with what they're proposing with the FCC.

LIMBAUGH: No -- well, I don't want to go down the road with anything they're proposing on anything, Glenn. But you ask an interesting question. Are people going to react to you or me simply because -well, it's hyperbole. It's what these guys do. My first hour yesterday was chronicling how this man is systematically dismantling our ability to gather intelligence to protect ourselves against an attack. He is purposely using his attorney general to make the United States the villain of the world.

I'm going to tell you, folks, from the bottom of my heart, I am uncomfortable thinking and saying these things about a man who's been elected president of the United States. It is terribly upsetting and disconcerting. And I wish I didn't think it. And I wish I didn't have to say it, but there's no way to sugarcoat it.

This is not politics as usual. This is not left versus right. This is not Republican versus Democrat. This is statism, totalitarianism versus freedom. And if these people are allowed to go where they want to go unchecked, then some people, a lot of people - I don't think half the country, but close - will wake up one day and find my God, what the hell happened? Because this is not what they voted for. This is not their intention of this.. They thought they were getting something entirely different.

It is a responsibility we all have, being honest, and earnest to inform people of what these possibilities are, because they are very real.

MARK LLOYD, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION: In Venezuela, with Chavez really had an incredible revolution, a democratic revolution, to begin to put in place, saying that we're going to have an impact on the people of Venezuela, the property owners and the folks who were then controlling the media in Venezuela rebelled. Work, frankly, with the folks here in the U.S. government, worked to oust him and came back had another revolution. And Chavez then started to take the media very seriously in this country.

BECK: America, I want to - first of all, I want thank the watchdog for bringing that video to my attention. You can be a watchdog. Just Tweet me whenever you see things like this, but I have to ask you an honest effort here. I need you to scour the Internet and hook for all the people involved with this government giving speeches and listen to them. And then pull them off and archive them yourself. Pull them off on to your own computer, because I think things could get scrubbed quickly.

Rush, when I see this comment from him, and yesterday we were all on Van Jones, an avowed Communist, self-avowed Communist, Marxist, Revolutionary, advising the president of the United States. Holdren, our science czar, he comes out and he says you don't have a right to, you know, a number of children. If you want to have three children, there's no right in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence, if the government says there's only two children.

Where is the true outrage from anyone in the media? Why are these things not grabbing traction at this point?

LIMBAUGH: Well, that doesn't surprise me. The whole concept of reporting has gone out the window. I call it a state-controlled media, because it is what they are. They are just repeaters. They take dictation from Rahm Emanuel, for the most part, and they simply run with it.

It is who they are, too. They think, Glenn, at the end of all this, that they're going to be in the elite circle. They think they will be untouched by any of this. They think the Fairness Doctrine attack, or the attack on radio, will leave them alone.

My father used to tell me, when I was growing up, and my brother, when he was trying to warn me of the threat posed by Soviet Communism and he told me about the media. He said these people are fools, don't they understand they will be the first ones shut up? If this kind of thing ever happens in this country.

I think it is just hero worship. I think, a lot of these people, a lot of them come out of the civil rights era. This presidency is symbolical to them. It is historical. They're not reporting - in fact, Glenn, this is a great point, how is it that people know what is in the healthcare bill? The press isn't telling them. How is it that people know some of the plans the administration has? The drive-by media is not telling anybody anything. They are discombobulated. I saw Chuck Todd the other day go ballistic because too many people are doing news now that are not journalist, that are not qualified, and infecting people's opinions in the media, and so forth.

These people are - it's embarrassing. I think they have met their Waterloo, and their Waterloo is Obama.

BECK: When I warned on the Patriot Act, which I was for as long as it had serious sunsets, and as many booby traps in that thing as possible. I warned at the time, and I was really conflicted because you don't want to give the government this kind of power. The kind of power that this government has right now is staggering.

Rush, they tried to go after you, with Timothy McVeigh, and tried to enact all of these things. Is it different now? Are you at all fearful? Or do you have any fear that these things will come to pass?

LIMBAUGH: Well, I do. And I take it seriously that they're going to try, but you know, Glenn, they have tried a number of things with me over the years. You mentioned McVeigh. They tried to blame me, Clinton did, for the Oklahoma City bombing. And they have routinely gone after me, but they haven't been able to shake anything away. And the reason is the bond of loyalty that I have with my audience. I have total credibility with the audience. It is an audience that continues to grow despite all of the new conservative shows on radio and television.

And all of us, in conservative media, have that bond with our audience. And the effort to discredit us is always going to fail. It will always fail as long as we remain true to who we are and don't disappoint our audiences in any way, in terms of substance and being serious about what we really believe.

So I'm confident that this can be beaten back. If I weren't, you know what, Glenn? I'd pack it all in, and I'd spend my money before they take it. And I would go and enjoy the rest of what my life is going to be.

LIMBAUGH: It's always a pleasure, Glenn. Thanks for having me. One of these days I have to do this on camera, since I have lost all this weight, I've got to show you how I look.

[[Looking back, I wish he used that immense popularity he had in 2001 to 2003 to dismantle the powers of liberalism instead of mid-east states.]]

The republicans COULD be doing htat RIGHT NOW- but htey ARE NOT! The GOP has lost it’s moral responsibilities I’m afraid (for htem ost part- some idneed are tryign to make a difference and to expose the evil of the left- but their voices are just not gettign heard unfortunately)

[[and people will suddenly wonder how this all could have happened.]]

At which point, those thta voted for him will realize hte seriousness of hteir mistake- and will comence to shovign hteir heads even further up their butts hoping it won’t affect them

My hubby is also retired navy, if they understand and know the oath they took, they should. The oath is to uphold the constitution weather it be from foreign or domestic enemies.

***Nearly 300 replies. Is Beck an alarmist fool? Or is he right on the money?***

I set down in the afternoon to watch Beck. I fall asleep after about 10 minutes and wake up after he is off.

I have been unable to sleep during his show this week. it is riviting!

“They will collect the guns and its over.”

‘Collect’...That word implies that there are willing participants. So if, IF they come to your door, are you going to peacefully turn over what you have? Or are you going to determine in your mind, at that moment, hell no! I will NOT hand over anything!
I’m in the latter group.

They won’t have to, all they have to do is ban the sale of ammo.

If ammo had a shelf life comparable to milk, maybe. Otherwise, I don't think so.

Incidentally, just what will "they" be using in their firearms while they sweep the neighborhood looking for stuff to confiscate?

Here's a transcript of Rush on the Glenn Beck show yesterday in case you missed it. I like everything about these two titans beginning a public conversation. The time may be coming, and coming fast, where they each need what the other has to offer. Glenn can keep Rush from blissfully scheduling tee times while Rome burns and Rush can keep Glenn from slitting his wrists. It's a good balance.

"It's always a pleasure, Glenn. Thanks for having me. One of these days I have to do this on camera, since I have lost all this weight, I've got to show you how I look."

Rush doesn't usually say things like this unless he's planning an eventual on-camera visit. If this happens it could cause some kind of freakish planetary alignment. :-)

That’s easy to say until you’re staring down the barrel of a gun. If that time comes we’ll have to be willing to die for our liberties or more so the liberties of our fellow citizens.

I don’t know that i’m willing to participate in a shoot out where I’m going to be out numbered and out gunned at this point in my life. If they come to collect out guns the first few to resist will do so to thier death, I’m certain. Our country just isn’t ready to handle that IMHO. I don’t think either side is willing to kill or die at this point, I hope not!

Despite everything that Zero and his fellow socialists have tried to do, I remain optimistic about the future. The hue and cry raised at town hall meetings across this nation have proven that Americans aren't going to just lay down and die - they're asserting the Constitutional rights and opposing tyranny in numbers unimaginable just 6 short months ago.

I have a feeling that, at the end of Zero's term, he will be one of the most unpopular Presidents in history, and his lofty goals of turning America into a third-world socialist basket case will lie in ruins at his feet.

Maybe God will throw them out!!!! "If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and seek my face and turn from there wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14

"...an armed revolution. I see no other way." "Throwing the bums out never seems to work... ...So what other solution is there?"

Ah, you're serious.

Well, lots of people hate democracy and try and take over by force, and I've chatted with a few in my travels in Latin America. Before you actually put your thoughts into actions you might want to go visit and see first hand what life is like in an armed revolutionary war zone. What happens is that getting back out of that kind of condition turns out to be a lot harder than it was getting in.

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