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John Scalzi's Guide to Epic SciFi Design FAILs - Star Trek Edition
AMC ^ | 27 Aug 2009 | John Scalzi

Posted on 08/27/2009 11:38:33 AM PDT by AreaMan

John Scalzi's Guide to Epic SciFi Design FAILs - Star Trek Edition

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So, before I bang on bad design choices in Star Trek, let's recap what happened last week when I discussed bad design choices in Star Wars:

Me: Star Wars design is so bad that people have to come up with elaborate and contrived rationales to explain it.

Star Wars Fanboy: YOU ARE SO VERY WRONG AND I WILL SHOW YOU WHY WITH THESE ELABORATE AND CONTRIVED RATIONALES.

It's a little much to hope for (or fear) the same result two weeks in a row, but nevertheless I promised everyone I'd point and laugh at Star Trek design, so here we go. I'll confine myself to things in the movies. There are eleven of those, so it's not like this will be a problem.

V'Ger
In Star Trek: The Motion Picture, a Voyager space probe gets sucked into a black hole and survives (GAAAAH), and is discovered by denizens of a machine planet who think the logical thing to do is to take a bus-size machine with the processing power of a couple of Speak and Spells and upgrade it to a spaceship the size of small moon, wrap that in an energy field the size of a solar system, and then send it merrily on its way. This is like you assisting a brain-damaged raccoon trapped on a suburban traffic island by giving him Ecuador.

The Alien Probe of Star Trek IV
star-trek-iv-probe-125.jpgThe programming of this probe is even more simple than that of V'Ger, and could be written in four lines in the BASIC programming language:

10. GOTO Earth
20. INPUT "I can has humpback whalez?" A$
30. IF A$="no" THEN GOTO 40
40. DESTROY EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING

I'm pretty sure this is not optimal design.

The Borg
Featured in First Contact, these are the most fearsome aliens in the galaxy, and look like the Tin Man on Goth Night at the local leather bar. You don't know whether to fear the Borg or to ask them if they think that upcoming AFI album will be, like, awesome.

Phasers
Bad design, or awesome? Evidence for awesome: They can very precisely vaporize living creatures -- and their clothes! -- whilst leaving everything else (floors, walls, objects people are sitting on) untouched. Evidence for bad: Inconsistent power output. In Star Trek II, a phaser vaporizes a mind-controlling eel of Ceti Alpha V (also, the Starfleet officer it's inside of -- and his clothes!), but then turns another such eel into a smoky smear. Yes, one can dial down phaser power, but I'm pretty sure you can't actually set a phaser to "smudge."

Uniforms
star_trek_uniforms_125.jpgYou have your choice: Velouresque pajamas and miniskirts (resurrected for the 2009 reboot), burgundy jackets with puffy blouses (Treks II - VI), or progressively unflattering jumpsuits (Treks VII - X). Do Starfleet personnel ever stop what they're doing, look at each other, and ask, "Who dresses us?" They should. But all of the above are at least better than the eye-poking fashions of the first movie. Speaking of which:

The Enterprise of The Motion Picture
It's a deathtrap. The science officer is killed beaming up because the transporter is screwy, the warp engines throw the ship into a wormhole (GAAAAH) and the phasers route through the engines, because, well, who doesn't like a power bottleneck? Now, the Enterprise is newly redesigned and it still hasn't had a "shakeout" cruise, fine. But someone really should have nipped the "let's route the phasers through the engines" design choice in the CAD stage. Also, I for one wouldn't let them beam me up if the words coming out of the transporter technician's mouth were "Guess we'll find out if these work now."

Holodecks
star-trek-holodeck-125.jpgIn fact brilliantly designed (except for the fact that it's a little too easy to override the safety protocols, and, you know, die), but none of the movies ever addresses what anyone who's ever thought seriously about holodecks knows: Given that it's hard enough to get some MMORPG players today to take care of their basic bodily needs with Cheetos and moist towelettes, what's keeping the entire population of the Federation from queuing up the "Roman orgy" recreation, stepping into a holodeck, and never ever coming out again? If you say "they have to eat," allow me to introduce you to the magic of the food replicator.

Red Matter
I'm sorry, I can't even begin to coherently explain everything that is wrong and bad with "red matter." Every time I try I just end up sputtering and gibbering and making plans to beat J.J. Abrams, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman to death with the works of Stephen Hawking and Richard Feynman. Suffice to say that when a deus ex machina looks exactly like Sasquatch's ball gag, you might as well put up a sign that says "abandon all logic, ye who enter here." Or, more compactly: GAAAAH.

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Winner of the Hugo Award and the John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer, John Scalzi is the author of The Rough Guide to Sci-Fi Movies and the novels Old Man's War and Zoe's Tale. He's also Creative Consultant for the upcoming Stargate: Universe television series. His column appears every Thursday.



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KEYWORDS: entertainment; humor; sciencefiction; startrek
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You knew it was coming....

Kinda funny.

1 posted on 08/27/2009 11:38:34 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan
I would have liked Star Trek to come up with more realistic looking aliens..... Like this!

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2 posted on 08/27/2009 11:40:36 AM PDT by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: AreaMan

bump


3 posted on 08/27/2009 11:41:25 AM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: AreaMan

Thanks, that was some fun stuff to read. :)


4 posted on 08/27/2009 11:42:21 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Big Giant Head

ping


5 posted on 08/27/2009 11:44:53 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: AreaMan; KevinDavis

PING!!


6 posted on 08/27/2009 11:47:48 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: AreaMan

Abandon all logic, ye who enter here



Fascinating
7 posted on 08/27/2009 11:48:49 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (To err is human, to think is Vulcan)
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To: AreaMan
10. GOTO Earth
20. INPUT "I can has humpback whalez?" A$
30. IF A$="no" THEN GOTO 40
40. DESTROY EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING


There is a bug in this program. If the A$="no" then it destroys everything in line 40. But if it doesn't equal "no," it will go to the next line (line 40) and destroy everything anyway.

I would render line 30 thus:
30. IF A$<>"no" THEN GOTO 10

Alternatively, you can use an "IF...THEN...ELSE" statement.
8 posted on 08/27/2009 11:49:18 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: AreaMan; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

"Because all you of Earth are idiots." - Plan 9 From Outer Space

9 posted on 08/27/2009 11:49:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Kennedycare?Recall that "Animal Farm" begins with a Socialist Revolution to honor Big Major's legacy)
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To: AreaMan
Still no mention of why the Federation has outlawed seatbelts and circuit breakers.
10 posted on 08/27/2009 11:51:49 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: a fool in paradise

I’m sure his parents are proud.


11 posted on 08/27/2009 11:52:04 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: Schnucki
Ah!!!! The very first Star Trek, The Motion Picture!.....I was just back from the service, eagerly awaiting the fantastic vision of the memories I had sitting in the squad rec' room with buddies before shipping out years earlier watchin' Kirk 'get some'......

Damn! I was mucho pissed......"V'ger" my ass! That movie BLEW CHUNKS....I've gotten better $2 short times than that....

12 posted on 08/27/2009 11:52:22 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: a fool in paradise

Some of you females familiar with the ‘camel toe’ syndrome should drop this guy a note.


13 posted on 08/27/2009 11:53:28 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

A cup would help.


14 posted on 08/27/2009 11:55:33 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: Dr. Sivana
It may not be a bug. It may be intentional.

Nevertheless, it illustrates one very important thing - REAL programmers use the GOTO statement. It was good enough for us... ;-)

15 posted on 08/27/2009 11:55:35 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: listenhillary
I guess I have to apologize here.....my thought translated to typing too quickly...it was crude and I apologize to all the ladies here......

It is just puzzling to me how some people can be oblivious to things like this...especially when you know someone is taking a picture of you.

16 posted on 08/27/2009 11:58:35 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: AreaMan
Given that it's hard enough to get some MMORPG players today to take care of their basic bodily needs with Cheetos and moist towelettes, what's keeping the entire population of the Federation from queuing up the "Roman orgy" recreation, stepping into a holodeck, and never ever coming out again?

LOL no doubt.

To be fair though ST: TNG did have an episode dealing with that. Think it was Barkley that was going through holodeck addiction, wouldn't show up for shifts, wouldn't socialize, etc etc.

17 posted on 08/27/2009 11:58:55 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: dragonblustar
Well, they did have Romulans:


18 posted on 08/27/2009 12:00:52 PM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: Gaffer

Maybe he’s an exhibitionist or just very dense.


19 posted on 08/27/2009 12:00:52 PM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: AreaMan

He is also a gay furry, which explains a whole lot.


20 posted on 08/27/2009 12:01:10 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Domandred

Didn’t he have lascivious trysts with whatsername.....yeah!....Counselor Troi?


21 posted on 08/27/2009 12:01:29 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: AreaMan

I think he could have done better =o)


22 posted on 08/27/2009 12:01:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Ted is dead, sir- begins train ride to hell .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Billthedrill
REAL programmers use the GOTO statement.

Absolutely, I had a prof in freshman year (Stuart Kurtz) who hated line numbers and GOTO statements. His Intro to Programming course (Math 105H) was PASCAL.

It doesn't take to long to figure out that named subroutines are just GOSUB using names instead of numbers. GOSUBs are just GOTO statements with "bookmarks" attached.
23 posted on 08/27/2009 12:04:04 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: ClayinVA

speaking of furries, I wish I never knew they existed, dang CSI! The other day I found out there are Firby furries.... I did NOT need to know that


24 posted on 08/27/2009 12:05:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Ted is dead, sir- begins train ride to hell .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: AreaMan

I have to admit, Scalzi’s “Old Man’s War” was one of the best Sci-fi books to come out in a long time. That being said, the follow on sequels progressively got worse and worse and the last book, “Zoe’s War”, just plain pissed me off.


25 posted on 08/27/2009 12:05:31 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: dragonblustar
Because it's a SciFi series, not horror.
26 posted on 08/27/2009 12:06:07 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: AreaMan
I'm pretty sure you can't actually set a phaser to "smudge."

Lunch aboard the Enterprise
Kirk: "Spock this chicken appears to be under cooked?"
Spock: "Its food Jim, but not as we know it."
Kirk: "Bones what do you make of it?"
McCoy: "I'm a doctor Jim not a fry cook." Kirk: "Set phasers to flambe."
ZAP
McCoy: "Its Dead Jim"
27 posted on 08/27/2009 12:07:51 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: AreaMan
Holodecks
In fact brilliantly designed (except for the fact that it's a little too easy to override the safety protocols, and, you know, die), but none of the movies ever addresses what anyone who's ever thought seriously about holodecks knows: Given that it's hard enough to get some MMORPG players today to take care of their basic bodily needs with Cheetos and moist towelettes, what's keeping the entire population of the Federation from queuing up the "Roman orgy" recreation, stepping into a holodeck, and never ever coming out again? If you say "they have to eat," allow me to introduce you to the magic of the food replicator.

Food replicator? Heck, they'd sneak down to Sickbay and steal a few hyposprays loaded with Dr. McCoy's old stimulant recipes. Who needs to eat? ;-)

Of course, all such top-shelf holodeck programs (including the entire "Orion Slave Girls" series) would be available only at the captain's discretion. Where crew performance is concerned, it could serve as the "opposite" of the mirror universe "agony booth".

Pity the poor crewman who has to go in there periodically and hose the place out, though.

28 posted on 08/27/2009 12:09:46 PM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: AreaMan
20. INPUT "I can has humpback whalez?" A$

I got lolz reading that. Scalzi for the win. :)

29 posted on 08/27/2009 12:10:30 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
There is a bug in this program. If the A$=”no” then it destroys everything in line 40. But if it doesn't equal “no,” it will go to the next line (line 40) and destroy everything anyway.

I don't think that's a bug, I think it's considered a feature.
30 posted on 08/27/2009 12:10:31 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: Charles Martel
Pity the poor crewman who has to go in there periodically and hose the place out, though.

Open it up to the vacuum of space and most everything should dry to a powder and float away.

31 posted on 08/27/2009 12:13:45 PM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: dragonblustar
All Star Trek aliens followed this formula...

Males looked and acted male.

Females looked and acted female.

One or more superficial anatomic difference from humans, the dumbest having to be the nose crinkle.

Aliens races all exemplify one particular human trait.

32 posted on 08/27/2009 12:15:59 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: AreaMan

Forget about flying cars... I want a my own Holodeck.


33 posted on 08/27/2009 12:19:45 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: AreaMan

My thought on the subject

34 posted on 08/27/2009 12:23:39 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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To: allmendream
No my favorite has to be that despite several hundred years of weapons development their ships still fight at ranges that would have been appropriate for Nelson at Trafalgar. No chance of taking a few shots from say the other side of the solar system. When you have photon torpedoes that move faster than the speed of light and pack a few kg of antimatter it isn't exactly logical hold your fire until 200 paces. At those ranges your own warhead would blow you to bits. It would be like fighting with nukes in a broom closet.
35 posted on 08/27/2009 12:24:12 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: real saxophonist
I don't think the Romulans were that scary.
36 posted on 08/27/2009 12:24:36 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: AreaMan

Anyone else notice that in ST NG the men were always tugging their shirts? Like they were “ridin’ up on ‘em” or something. Wardrobe problem?


37 posted on 08/27/2009 12:28:14 PM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: allmendream
One or more superficial anatomic difference from humans, the dumbest having to be the nose crinkle.

Aliens races all exemplify one particular human trait.

The nose crinkle is dumb. Some of the "differences", on the other hand, provide decades of jokes.


38 posted on 08/27/2009 12:30:40 PM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: GonzoGOP
LOL. True enough. The human mind boggles at the distances involved in space and the actual SPEED of the speed of light. For a TV or movie screen seeing one ship firing, then the other ship receiving fire just doesn't pack the same “punch” as seeing both.

Read the space “battles” in “Mote in God's Eye” to get a glimpse of what a space battle might actually be like; much like a real battle... hours and hours of boredom interspersed by a few minutes of pure terror; and a rather fatalistic appreciation for the inevitable.

39 posted on 08/27/2009 12:32:54 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: sand lake bar

Every cast member had to wear a body-girdle because of body rolls and “panty lines”.


40 posted on 08/27/2009 12:37:27 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: ClayinVA; listenhillary
Dunno about gay, but take a look at his homepage and Wiki entry - they might surprise you.
41 posted on 08/27/2009 12:38:00 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: sand lake bar
Anyone else notice that in ST NG the men were always tugging their shirts? Like they were “ridin’ up on ‘em” or something. Wardrobe problem?

Called by the trekkies, "The Picard Maneuver."
42 posted on 08/27/2009 12:39:15 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: bert

She’s hiding something.

(But not much.)


43 posted on 08/27/2009 12:39:58 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: allmendream

or, even better, “The Forever War”.

Missiles launched takes hours, days or even weeks to approach their target.

The “hard science” writers like Pournelle, Niven and Haldeman knew how to make it happen.


44 posted on 08/27/2009 12:40:46 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Slings and Arrows

You messed up the, “Wiki Entry,” link on that post.

So, he’s an NRA member?
But how good is he with his Identity Disk? Lightcycle?


45 posted on 08/27/2009 12:42:41 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: allmendream
Best description of space battles I read was in a book called Antares Dawn. No artificial gravity, ships rotated. No shields, just armor, and too much of that and you couldn't maneuver. And the ships accelerated, not turned like an aircraft. The ships didn't use zero reaction mass engines, just fusion torches, and they were always sweating fuel. Weapons were lasers, rail guns, and nuclear missiles. They had anti-proton projectors, but that was just a particle beam on steroids.

The tactics were basically to saturate your enemy with proximity fused nuclear missiles so they couldn't dodge/shoot down them all. Getting close enough for beam weapons (thousands of kilometers) was next to impossible due to the rate of closure. So most of the time they fought from so far away that the other guy was just a blip on the radar screen.
46 posted on 08/27/2009 12:44:13 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Thanks for the recommendation. I will have to check out “The Forever War”.

For myself I like the idea that a ‘space man’ without fake gravity would have to be an absolute beast of muscle-mass to be able to handle or move in high G acceleration.

One would NOT want to mess with one of the Engineers on-board one of those ships! They would snap a 1G planet bound man like a bundle of twigs.

47 posted on 08/27/2009 12:44:14 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: RandallFlagg

Yep, I sure did. Here’s the correct link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Maynard


48 posted on 08/27/2009 12:48:15 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Actually, it doesn’t matter if the answer is no or anything else, the flow will naturally ‘FALL THROUGH’ and execute the ‘DESTROY EVERYTHING’ line.

If this would have been written in cobol, it would have skipped the destroy everything line and tried to continue to nowhere and the compiler would have flagged it as an error.

In cobol, a classic if then clause would have been terminated by a period which would remove any doubd about it’s range. I am not familiar enough with the ‘language?’used to know if a period is allowed or required to end the if clause.

Either way, that is some extremely poor programming and the Aliens should have known better than to code like that. Maybe they farmed out their coding to India or pakista instead of doing it themselves.

For what it’s worth, I’ve been working with computers since 1967 and I have worked as operator, programmer, Systems specialist, and systems engineer. I own my own consulting company and build my own computers.

I am a mainframe specialist and not a PC programmer even though I have programmed in Basic Assembler Language (BAL) as well as Autocoder, RPG, COBOL, COBOL II, and several other lanuages.


49 posted on 08/27/2009 12:51:31 PM PDT by dglang
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To: allmendream
Just for grins, here is my best to worst list of space battles vs reality for the major TV/Movies. How does it compare to the rest of your lists?

Best
Babylon 5 - Especially the EF ships
BSG 2003 - Wimped out with Artificial gravity, but the ships still acted like they were in space.
Firefly - Maneuvered like a spaceship. Ship to ship weapons seemed a bit wimpy, especially for the dedicated warships. Fought at too close a range.

Worst
Star Trek - Never let logic or physics get in the way of good graphics.
Star Wars - No redeeming qualities. This is what you get for letting Muppet's fly your ships.
BSG (1977) Star Wars with a low budget.
50 posted on 08/27/2009 12:59:44 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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