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Why Boston backed Teddy (Why did Ted Kennedy win the Senate Eight times?)
MSNBC ^ | 8/27/2009 | Miake Taibbi

Posted on 08/27/2009 1:01:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

After Ted Kennedy was elected for the first time, at age 30, his home state sent him back to the Senate eight times, all but once by unassailable margins.

Here in Massachusetts, people understood him and wanted him on their side – and it wasn't just because of his the name.

It was the accent that was as much Boston as Brahmin. It was his collection of imperfections and failings trumped most of the time by his stubbornness, real passion and just plain will.

And there was something else about him that made him an untouchable here: He came from a patrician family that often, as an entity, angered people but he was the one that plain people seemed to be able – and eager – to relate to.

There are a lot of stories about his "everyman" qualities being told around Hyannis, where he was often just another guy in the produce aisle. But he carried that accessibility everywhere.

Jimmy Sullivan, the co-manager and bartender at the Union Oyster House, a landmark restaurant in the center of Boston, explained how Kennedy exuded those qualities whenever he came in over the years – often by himself.

"You sit at the Oyster Bar and you can't help but be a regular guy," said Sullivan. "You're sitting face to face and back to back with all the regular people. He used to come in all the time…For a guy who came from wealth, he had a genuine soft spot for the working guy."

It was part of his political skills. I've seen it, as has any reporter who covered him. He would look someone he was just meeting right in the eye, wordlessly repeat the person's name, and remember it later.

(Excerpt) Read more at fieldnotes.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: chappaquiddick; tedkennedy
I note the following statement in the article :

It was a quality Rep. Bill Delahunt, D-Mass., a long time Kennedy friend and colleague, said made him a "master political craftsman."
Delahunt described Kennedy as being the "kind of guy with 10,000 friends," but he said that he was also the "most generous politician" he knew.


IT IS EASY TO BE CALLED GENEROUS WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY ! 'NUFF SAID.
1 posted on 08/27/2009 1:01:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

These people are blind, stupid and willing to buy snakeoil no doubt.


2 posted on 08/27/2009 1:03:47 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: SeekAndFind

To the headline: because people in MA are idiots.


3 posted on 08/27/2009 1:04:11 PM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, who did Teddy leave his wealth to???


4 posted on 08/27/2009 1:05:10 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Will the current Mrs. K., Victoria Reggie Kennedy, get to ‘stay’ at the Compound for as long as she likes? Or is someone out there right now, changing the locks and alarm codes?


5 posted on 08/27/2009 1:07:05 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win!" Mahatma Ghandi)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Maybe someone is putting up windmills just offshore as we speak.


6 posted on 08/27/2009 1:08:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: SeekAndFind

His family wealth bought him the seat and he sat there like a toad for the rest of his life.


7 posted on 08/27/2009 1:08:23 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: SeekAndFind
I asked someone in Mass why they kept sending that POS back to the Senate and his answer was, "Well, if a Senator's job is to bring recognition to his state, then he does a pretty good job."

I replied, "If that is what a Senator's job is, then Illinois should run John Wayne Gacy for office?"

8 posted on 08/27/2009 1:08:45 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why is the song: I can bring home the bacon, and fry it up in a pan, and never, never, ever forget your a man... cause I’m a...”

Come to mind?


9 posted on 08/27/2009 1:10:04 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: Paladin2

Yes...as yet ANOTHER honor to the MEMORY of the LION of LIBERALISM...what better ‘green’ memorial than windmills. Dozens and dozens of TeddyTurbines off the Hyannis shore line.


10 posted on 08/27/2009 1:11:56 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win!" Mahatma Ghandi)
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To: b4its2late

Just maybe Bill Mauer was right, on Conan’s show, when he said people in the US are “STOOPID”. It only takes Mass. to prove it! Kennedys, Kerry, Romney, Franks and many, many others.


11 posted on 08/27/2009 1:13:27 PM PDT by GOYAKLA
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To: SeekAndFind
There are a lot of stories about his "everyman" qualities being told around Hyannis, where he was often just another guy in the produce aisle.

A friend once spotted him in some dive bar in Hyannis, drinking Jameson from a tumbler and dunking Chips Ahoy from the bag he'd set on the bar. Just like any other guy in the produce aisle. There was another story about the Hyannis PD driving him home in a stupor one night, I don't recall the details.

12 posted on 08/27/2009 1:14:23 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A “favored son” can do no wrong. He can even kill a girl and suffer no consequences.


13 posted on 08/27/2009 1:15:18 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: SeekAndFind

Teddy and Massholes are THE perfect example as to why we need term limits.


14 posted on 08/27/2009 1:15:18 PM PDT by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Here in Massachusetts, people understood him and wanted him on their side”

...I guess they “understood” that murder is sometimes necessary.


15 posted on 08/27/2009 1:15:39 PM PDT by albie
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To: SeekAndFind
I knew people from Hyannis when I lived up East. They told me that no Kennedy ever paid a bill for services rendered, whether a doctor or a barber.
16 posted on 08/27/2009 1:15:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind
Mike Taibbi. The name is well known in these parts.
Former Boston Channel 5 reporter and long time Kennedy apologist.

Where's the Barf Alert?

17 posted on 08/27/2009 1:16:40 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Hope requires the contender, who sees no virtue in surrender.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Dozens and dozens of TeddyTurbines off the Hyannis shore line.

Hey! And offshore structures visible from the Compound containing square mile after square mile of TeddySolarPanels.

18 posted on 08/27/2009 1:17:55 PM PDT by Ole Okie (American)
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To: SeekAndFind

As one who had to do battle with them, they are exactly like Ci-cago, corrupt, bribing, vicious and absolutely without any morals or scruples.


19 posted on 08/27/2009 1:20:06 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: SeekAndFind

[[(Why did Ted Kennedy win the Senate Eight times?)]]

Because people with bent over noses stood around the polling places insuring that everyone voted for him? Either that, or there’s soemthign awful in the drinking water in Mass to cause mass mentality


20 posted on 08/27/2009 1:20:18 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

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My name is David Kopetchny, MaryJo was my first cousin. To bad she didn’t live to see poor Teddy die. May he rot in Hell! I for one do not forgive or forget how that drunk killed a truely wonderful person and friend and then lied thru his teeth to get out of trouble.
Report David R. Kopetchny, 08/27/09 - 3:41PM

http://www.standardspeaker.com/news/liberal_lion_kennedy_left_his_mark_on_n_e_penna


21 posted on 08/27/2009 1:22:30 PM PDT by angcat (GO YANKEES! I LOVE MY YANKEES!!!!!!!!!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
I knew people from Hyannis when I lived up East. They told me that no Kennedy ever paid a bill for services rendered, whether a doctor or a barber.

Not to worry, most Kennedy's will be paying the bill in their new compound in hell. And it won't be cool ocean waves lapping at their feet.
22 posted on 08/27/2009 1:22:53 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 ("Peace" is that brief, glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - Anonymous)
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To: b4its2late

Why does San Fran elect Pelosi, Chicago ... Daley, Illinois ... Ryan, or Blogojevich, Ct ... Dodd, NY ... Schumer, and Clinton, California ... Scwartzenkennedy, WI ... Feingold, MN ... Franken, and Jessie the Body? Let’s face it, this country is chock full of idiots who vote for the dembest people, for the dumbest reasons. Boston is the mainstream


23 posted on 08/27/2009 1:25:29 PM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant (Where is the Court of Common Sense?)
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To: SeekAndFind

People like this get elected over and over again because the franchise has been given to the proudly ignorant, the equally even more proud degenerates and to those who are hangers-on and societal parasites. The vote, which all and sundry proclaim to be oh, so precious and important, is granted to the dregs as well as the noble, to the welfare scrounge and the criminal, to the mentally unbalanced and to the barely functional illiterate.

We get degenerates like Frank and Kennedy because this is what the people admire and want to lead them. We get corrupt fools like Jefferson, Rangle and Dodd because people are satisfied with them and content to be ruled by people who sell their offices to anyone who has the price. They reelect seditious dolts like Kerry or Miller of California or that clod from Seattle because they feel that people like this will ensure the security of the nation and they can sleep safe in the knowledge. They MUST want this because the elect them over and over and over knowing what they are.


24 posted on 08/27/2009 1:26:39 PM PDT by scory
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess Ted’s gonna have his own Big Dig.


25 posted on 08/27/2009 1:27:26 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: angcat

It’s interesting that he spells his name differently from Mary Jo’s family. Theirs is “Kopechne.”


26 posted on 08/27/2009 1:28:41 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: albie

...I guess they “understood” that murder is sometimes necessary.

Does that include the over 60 million little souls that were killed as well on his watch?


27 posted on 08/27/2009 1:51:42 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

“Does that include the over 60 million little souls that were killed as well on his watch”?

...I would imagine it does. I’m not condoning the behavior of the entire state of Mass. I’m pointing out that these a##hats don’t have a conscience and/or they’re oblivious to the amount of damage this idiot caused.


28 posted on 08/27/2009 1:59:35 PM PDT by albie
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To: SeekAndFind

the same reason they keep electing Murtha in Johnstown, PA....he delivers thousands of patronage jobs to an area that is too regulated and statist to generate employment in the private sector


29 posted on 08/27/2009 2:01:20 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: albie

I’m not condoning the behavior of the entire state of Mass.

No need to explain - I’m from Louisiana - I know exactly what an a##hat is. Our little conservative part of our parish has to suffer with the ignorance of other, more well known, parishes.


30 posted on 08/27/2009 2:04:29 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: SeekAndFind

Win ?
He didn't Win !
He never Won anything !
He "BOUGHT" those elections !
The votes that were "givens" were those that were impressed with his brothers, Teddy's wealth and the fact that he was a DEMOCRAT.
31 posted on 08/27/2009 2:04:44 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: b4its2late

John and Samuel Adams never dreamed how dumb their descendants would become.


32 posted on 08/27/2009 2:16:29 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: scory

Overall, perhaps it is simply about name ID among the uninformed.


33 posted on 08/27/2009 2:17:48 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: All; nutmeg
There are a lot of stories about his “everyman” qualities being told around Hyannis, where he was often just another guy in the produce aisle

Okay, the above is a total load of BS. My family is from Boston and I live here. Ted Kennedy and the rest of his clan are well known for not paying bills, stiffing people for work, pulling the “ do you know who I am “ line, leaving lousy tips and boorish behavior.

Out local conservative talk radio host, Howie Carr has had hundreds of people call his program with stories about these people. Howie would have entire segments on this subject and the phone lines were filled in no time. TONS of stories from people who were not paid for work done on buildings, houses etc.

There was one caller who owned a grocery store not far from the Kennedy compound. The man explained credit was never allowed for the Kennedys. He had been burned too many times with the ‘ol “ put it on my tab “ line.

34 posted on 08/27/2009 2:38:05 PM PDT by warsaw44 (Any artillery experts here on FR? Need cannon in C. 1920 photo identified)
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To: Theodore R.

I beg to differ from you. I am a cousin to the Adams line. My mother’s lineage is traced directly back to John Alden and Priscilla Mullins of the Mayflower. They had, I believe 10 children, we are from their son Joseph’s line. The Adams’ were from another child of theirs. While many of my 10 siblings are Dems, there are 1/2 of the near dozen of us that have been life long conservatives living in Massachusetts. We have never voted for a Democrat BUT since there is rarely a Republican on the ticket, it hasn’t been easy! Nevermind that no matter where you work being a conservative in MA, you keep your political opinions to yourself unless your sure you are working side by side by another fellow conservative.

We are proud of our heritage and lineage to such wonderful Americans, the Adams family. (chuckle listening to the show’s theme song)

My best FReegards,

jhw61


35 posted on 08/27/2009 2:45:20 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: SeekAndFind

Being willing and able to listen to a stranger, then later remember his name are very valuable political tools.


36 posted on 08/27/2009 2:48:27 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Kennedy family is to public service what the Borgia family was to Catholic service.


37 posted on 08/27/2009 3:23:19 PM PDT by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: SeekAndFind

Kennedy’s career was made possible by the Founders’ inability to foresee that politicans would make the Senate into a lifelong career and live like Oriental potentates on the public dole.

A cry for term limits, in other words.


38 posted on 08/27/2009 4:20:25 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: denydenydeny

No, a cry to repeal the 17th amendment and give governors and legislatures back the authority to appoint Senators, who will then be beholden to the state which sent them there. And who will then represent the STATES, which is how the Founders envisioned it... the House to represent We, the People and the Senate to represent the interests of the Several States... Then take that phony 435 cap off the House and let us BE represented.


39 posted on 08/27/2009 4:45:27 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Having Lived in Massachusetts for 20 years, I will tell you why the state of Massachusetts re elected Teddy...because The democratic Party would not let anyone else in their party run against him in their Democratic Primary... Ted would win the Democratic Primary for Senate, and would never have anyone worthy of taking him out.. except that one time.. Mitt Romney ran against Ted Kennedy for Senate.. Thank you Mitt Romney for making Teddy sweat in that debate.


40 posted on 08/27/2009 6:05:41 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is it too late to give Taxachusetts back to England?


41 posted on 08/27/2009 6:21:08 PM PDT by Gritty (This is our moment. We are fundamentally transforming the United States of America.-B Hussein Obama)
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To: Theodore R.

You are being too kind. That and I am getting to be mean in my old age.


42 posted on 08/28/2009 10:00:24 AM PDT by scory
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To: angcat
My name is David Kopetchny, MaryJo was my first cousin

David's parents obviously never taught him how to spell his last name...........Its Kopechne

43 posted on 08/28/2009 10:08:55 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: warsaw44

But unfortunately people like us are outnumbered. I have people on my facebook—whom I like for reasons other than politics—who have been posting RIP Ted, God Bless Ted, He was a legend etc type of fawning. I try to bring up the Chapp. incident, etc. But you can’t change their minds.

And what’s making me really sick is what’s happened to the Boston Herald. Outside of Howie it’s really sickening Ted worship (and will they sell a lot more papers to suckers because of it? You bet! They ran special commemorative editions when Obama got elected. Trying to remember if they did so when W got elected. It’s all about money and the Herald knows all the Kennedy admirers out there.

And today I took a daytrip to visit my Dad on the Cape and saw all the electronic signs saying the following (plus at least one overpass banner)

THANKS TED
FROM THE PEOPLE OF MASSACHUSETTS

Not from me!


44 posted on 08/30/2009 7:27:51 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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