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Baby boom pushes Britain's population past 61m in biggest jump for almost half a century
UK Mail ^ | 8-27-09

Posted on 08/27/2009 1:06:49 PM PDT by past_present

A baby boom fuelled by the highest fertility rates in a generation has pushed Britain's population above 61 million for the first time. There were 408,000 more people living here in 2008, the Office for National Statistics said. But immigration is still impacting on population growth because 56% of the increase in births last year was from non-UK born mothers.

The vast wave of

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: birthrate; europe; uk
This is a photo from the article:

Yes, the country is being overrun with babies that look like...er..the child you see in the ummm... photo...you see and um... nevermind

1 posted on 08/27/2009 1:06:49 PM PDT by past_present
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To: past_present

Mommy,is Mecca this way?


2 posted on 08/27/2009 1:14:28 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: past_present

I bet more than half of the increase were Muslim and non-Christian Faiths. Read Buchanan’s “The Death of The West” Indeed, what may ask are there any Christians living in Britain any longer?


3 posted on 08/27/2009 1:16:29 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: past_present
Last of their kind

The real mommies got Burkas

4 posted on 08/27/2009 1:21:57 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property)
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To: past_present

Little future jihadis being born.


5 posted on 08/27/2009 1:34:17 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: past_present
"Just look at the development within Europe," said a triumphant Norwegian imam a few months ago, "where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children. Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-452815/Will-Britain-day-Muslim.html


6 posted on 08/27/2009 2:04:51 PM PDT by John Titor
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To: past_present

I read this article and it didn’t make much sense to me. The greatest increase was among non-British residents. It didn’t identify this group, but I assume that they are Muslim. Many Eastern Europeans left Britian, which is itself interesting. If I understand this article, and that’s a big IF, England is becoming part of the Islamic Nation at a faster rate.


7 posted on 08/27/2009 2:08:17 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: past_present

I read a few weeks ago that the number 1 baby boy name in the UK for 2008 was Mohammed.


8 posted on 08/27/2009 2:09:12 PM PDT by DFG (1 useless man is called a disgrace, 2 are called a law firm, 3 or more are called Congress)
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To: past_present
All western governments are purposely encouraging immigration both legal and illegal to help save their social programs.

The baby boom and subsequent baby bust destroyed the whole model for social programs which were built with a growing population in mind.

So basically they are letting in the foreigners to pay for the social security of the boomers.

9 posted on 08/27/2009 2:35:00 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: past_present
the country is being overrun with babies that look like...er..the child you see in the ummm... photo...you see and um... nevermind

Aye, you're right. Polish people look a lot like that. I guess you assume it is swarthy skinned people overrunning the place? Let me assure you, we have more Poles than you can shake a stick at in the UK- they have been coming in droves.

Also, I am one of the foreigners who has infiltrated the UK as well. I am lily white American.

Your comments are stupid.

10 posted on 08/27/2009 2:39:24 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son

Stupid? Read post 8. The comments are fact.


11 posted on 08/27/2009 2:42:50 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

I live here dude. I know what the f-— I’m talking about.

Piss off.


12 posted on 08/27/2009 2:44:26 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Read the link and weep for jolly ole england!

http://rickbutts.com/83/is-england-becoming-a-muslim-nation/
13 posted on 08/27/2009 3:01:23 PM PDT by Torquay
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To: Torquay

I don’t give a sod about England. I live in Scotland. I don’t really give a sod about Scotland either but I like it better than England by several orders of magnitude.

Don’t feel like reading your link.

I’m about to watch Ghost in the Shell/SAC. Much better than politics. Be back in a while. Or not.


14 posted on 08/27/2009 3:06:12 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Here's another link for you just written today and published there in the UK in case you need to understand what is actually going on in the UK related to this issue.

I wish you well there, unfortunately your government there in the UK has disarmed you.

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/08/uk-baby-boom-the-result-of-mass-third-world-immigration/
15 posted on 08/27/2009 3:12:33 PM PDT by Torquay
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To: Prodigal Son

I guess you don’t get out much. That explains your social skills.

The statistics don’t lie and are well published.


16 posted on 08/27/2009 3:21:37 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Prodigal Son
I live here dude.

No you don't/

I live in Scotland.


We are talking about England. Pay attention. Do you have statistical data to back up your assertion that most of the births are NOT due to Muslim immigrants? Or are you just here to be a jerk? Never mind. Don't respond. Enjoy your anime. In the future if you don't actually care about what a thread is talking about don't post on it.
17 posted on 08/27/2009 3:26:33 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

Ok. You’re right I’m wrong. I retract everything I ever said. I also declare myself to be a scum-sucking piece of excrement. If you have other suggestions about how much of a worthless piece of sh!t I am- I agree with everything you might say.

I did enjoy the anime by the way. I have watched the entire series a few times. I like to watch one episode when I get home from work.

I don’t care if I messed your thread up or not.


18 posted on 08/27/2009 3:42:18 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: TalonDJ
That explains your social skills.

Social skills are for people who like to suck up to one another. To me, you're all just useless meat. I'm nice when it gets me somewhere but if it were up to me what to do with all of you... Trust me. You don't even want to know.

19 posted on 08/27/2009 3:44:41 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Torquay
I wish you well there, unfortunately your government there in the UK has disarmed you.

It's not my government. I am American. Born in middle Georgia.

Handguns are illegal here. Many freepers seem to think rifles and shotguns are as well but this is not the case.

I don't care about all that though and wouldn't want to get into a discussion about it.

There are a butt-load of Polish people here though. I understand what is going on in the UK because I live here. Ok? You can believe what you want. I notice most people tend to no matter what any way.

20 posted on 08/27/2009 3:48:11 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: TalonDJ

Also, the thread is about the UK and Britain. Scotland is part of both. I live in the UK. I live in Britain.


21 posted on 08/27/2009 3:49:34 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
"It's not my government. I am American. Born in middle Georgia."

You were disarmed the second you arrived at your new home there. Your not in Georgia anymore are you?
22 posted on 08/27/2009 4:09:30 PM PDT by Torquay
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To: Torquay

Ummm. I arrived in Germany. Then South AFrica. Then France. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Why are you so focused on the UK?

It’s not my home. I don’t think of anyplace as home. Don’t think of any people as family. Move to one place. See how it is for a while. Move on somewhere else. Every place is about the same when it gets down to it. The food and weather are about the only real changes. People suck in every country. They just suck in a different language.

You’re right. It’s not Georgia. I had never thought it was. Alabama is not Georgia either. Texas is not Georgia. Samoa is not Georgia. The UK is not Kenya. One could go on forever pointing out the obvious.

I don’t want to be in Georgia. I’m not there. Good.

I’m thinking about moving on from here pretty soon. The weather has got me down. I want to go somewhere that I don’t have to speak English for a good while. Where there’s plenty of sun and good food. Both of those things are in short supply here.


23 posted on 08/27/2009 4:21:09 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: past_present

In 50 years the UK will be under sharia law and will be another muslim hole.


24 posted on 08/27/2009 4:56:28 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: TalonDJ; past_present
Do you have statistical data to back up your assertion that most of the births are NOT due to Muslim immigrants?

Your belief that they are presumably stems from the common, but mistaken belief that immigration to the UK is predominantly if not wholly Muslim. Plenty of statistical evidence to show that is not the case. If you go to the Office for National Statistics website you will find immigration analysed year by year by country of origin rather than religion. While country of origin is obviously not an infallible guide, it's a pretty reliable pointer in the case of many countries. You can, for instance, be pretty sure that there won't be many muslims among the large numbers arriving here from Jamaica, South Africa, the Phillipines, or Australia - or indeed the USA. The most strking aspect, for me, of the immigration data is the sheer variety of countries of origin. Yes, there are predminantly Muslim countries there - but plenty of others also.

25 posted on 08/28/2009 1:45:43 AM PDT by Winniesboy (61 years a NHS patient; 7 years a Freeper)
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To: Prodigal Son
To me, you're all just useless meat. I'm nice when it gets me somewhere but if it were up to me what to do with all of you... Trust me. You don't even want to know.

Then why are you here talking to us?
26 posted on 08/28/2009 5:32:35 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Winniesboy
Your belief that they are presumably stems from the common, but mistaken belief that immigration to the UK is predominantly if not wholly Muslim.

No, my belief stems from the news articles out of the UK which stated that the most populare boys name for new babys last year was Mohamed. See post 8.
27 posted on 08/28/2009 5:39:56 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ
....the most populare boys name for new babys last year was Mohamed.

Tempting to conclude, therefore, that most babies are born Muslim. Not so. In recent years British parents have adopted with enthusiasm the regrettable practice (originating, I believe, in the US) of bestowing invented, synthetic, hybrid or otherwise strange names on their offspring. Rather than, as in the past, choosing a name from a well-tried, familiar catalogue of a few dozen or so, parents now have a virtually infinite choice. Muslim parents, by contrast, stick with the traditional practice of calling their firstborn son Mahommed (or one of the variant spellings). It doesn't take a great deal of mathematical skill to realise that the latter will therefore occupy a place in the favourite-name league table which is is quite unrelated to the relative numbers of muslim and non-muslim families.

28 posted on 08/28/2009 6:36:46 AM PDT by Winniesboy (61 years a NHS patient; 7 years a Freeper)
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To: DFG

Oh not this again.

No it wasnt. And I have posted several times in the last year to point this out.


29 posted on 08/28/2009 5:15:17 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: TalonDJ

The ‘mohammed is no1 name’ is not true.


30 posted on 08/28/2009 5:16:33 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Torquay

Who the **** is Rick Butts?.

Nice name, ‘tis probably a reference to where most of his facts come from.

Muslim % of UK=3%.
Muslim% of USA=3%.


31 posted on 08/28/2009 5:18:50 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Torquay

Oh for crying out loud.

The BNP?. You ARE aware that they are an extreme right wing party with links to white supremacists?. Please dont quote anything from them.


32 posted on 08/28/2009 5:20:29 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: TalonDJ

You ARE aware that Britain is not England?.

That Britain/UK is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. So to say you are talking solely about England makes no sense. England is merely one part of the UK/Great Britain.


33 posted on 08/28/2009 5:23:15 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman
Now, now! I will provide information related to this post and quote them if I so choose so that others here can decide for themselves what is relevant or not.

You have no standing to tell me what I can do or not do. And, if you happen to live in the UK, just look around yourself to see what the UK has become. I am happy that there are those in the UK who are finally standing up against the madness that is occurring there. Maybe one day I will again return there, but for now, not a chance. Also, in my opinion, there is no need to try to slander good Brits and their new and strengthening conservative party the BNP. I wish the BNP well, and hope they bring sanity back to a once great country!
34 posted on 08/29/2009 4:56:09 PM PDT by Torquay
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To: Torquay

I am not slandering anyone. I can only assume that until recently you had never heard of the BNP.

It is a fact that the BNP are an extreme right wing party, ‘whites only’ with racist and anti-semitic attitudes and rhetoric. Who advocate the forcible repatriation of all non-white and mixed race people living in this country. Despite the fact that most non-white Britons are now 3rd generation, and have been born and bred here since the 1950’s.

Their leaders have a long history of racial hatred and even convictions for racial violence. Their history is in a line from earlier British Fascist parties such as the British Union of Fascists and the National Front. They have numerous links with very extreme and violent Fascist groups such as Combat 18.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

Honestly, trying to tell me(who is British and knows what he is talking about!) they arent a racist and Fascist party is like me trying to convince you that your KKK isnt racist....


35 posted on 08/29/2009 9:05:19 PM PDT by the scotsman
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