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The Kennedy Funeral - A Golden Opportunity or Capitulation for the Catholic Church
Life Site News ^ | 8-26-09 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:18 PM PDT by STARWISE

Saturday's grandiose Catholic funeral for Senator Ted Kennedy has the potential to be a scandal that will make Notre Dame's Obama Day a walk in the park.

With all four living former Presidents in attendance and an address from President Barack Obama, the funeral is set to be a royal crowning, right inside a Catholic Church, of a man who betrayed the most fundamental moral teachings of the faith.

What example will this give to Catholics and the rest of the world looking in? It will surely belie the Catholic teachings on the sanctity of life and sexuality.

"Surely," they will say, "if one of the most vociferous proponents of abortion and homosexuality in politics is so feted in the Church, the Church cannot possibly regard abortion as murder."

Would anyone so honor one who so advocated what the church officially considers an "unspeakable crime"?

The Church in the US has suffered a dangerous precedent with the recent Notre Dame award to President Obama. However, President Obama is not Catholic. Therefore, the impact of the scandal was blunted.

Regarding Senator Kennedy, however, the stakes are much higher in terms of scandal and public relations.

Kennedy, began his life as a Catholic in great ceremony. At age seven, he received his First Communion from Pope Pius XII in the Vatican. He was also pro-life early in his political career.

"Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain rights which must be recognized - the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old," he wrote in 1971.

However, abandoning the practice of faith is regarded as worse than never having known.

The Bible, in the second book of Peter teaches: "For if, flying from the pollutions of the world, through the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they be again entangled in them and overcome: their latter state is become unto them worse than the former. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of justice than, after they have known it, to turn back from that holy commandment which was delivered to them." (2 Peter 2:20-21)

Rev. Patrick Tarrant, pastor of the Church where Kennedy is to be buried has informed the media that he was present at Kennedy's death and thus hopefully the senator made a last confession and was reconciled with the Church.

However, only a public repudiation of his militantly anti-life and anti-family actions would serve to lessen the scandal of the upcoming funeral extravaganza.

I don't discount that that might be coming. After all, Kennedy did have President Obama deliver a letter to the Pope when Obama made his visit to the Vatican in July. Although unlikely, given the Senator's recent, intense support for Obama's health care reforms, perhaps there was a public confession in the letter waiting to be released. We can hope and pray.

If we assume a private confession was made there could be a private funeral Mass for the family, without politicians and media. And of course there would still be a secular memorial event, with all the pomp and ceremony for this star of the secular world.

Such a deliberately subdued Catholic liturgical event for the Senator would, at this time, with the announcement of the Catholic funeral already out, come at the cost of enduring the rage of those who have become used to the Church giving in to their demands. However, the eternal benefit would be to send a clear message to Catholic politicians in particular, and to the public in general, that the Church is actually serious about the sanctity of human life.

It could also be an opportunity for Church leaders to repent of having failed to work hard enough to bring wayward Catholic politicians back to faith, or even of having in many cases led them away from the faith, as some clergy are known to have influenced Kennedy.

It would not be the first time the Church has apologized for not living up to it's pro-life convictions. In 2000, when Pope John Paul II was making his much touted "Universal Prayer" of "Confession Of Sins And Asking For Forgiveness" one of the ignored apologies concerned the unborn.

Then-Archbishop François Xavier Nguyên Van Thuân prayed "let us pray for those who are most defenseless, the unborn killed in their mother's womb or even exploited for experimental purposes by those who abuse the promise of biotechnology and distort the aims of science."

The Pope responded in prayer, "God, our Father, you always bear the cry of the poor. How many times have Christians themselves not recognized you in the hungry, the thirsty and the naked, in the persecuted, the imprisoned, and in those incapable of defending themselves, especially in the first stages of life. For all those who have committed acts of injustice by trusting in wealth and power and showing contempt for the "little ones" who are so dear to you, we ask your forgiveness: have mercy on us and accept our repentance. We ask this through Christ our Lord."

Canada suffered a similar scandal in 2000, with the death of former Catholic Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.

Despite his having legalized abortion, divorce and homosexuality he was given a state funeral in Montreal's Notre-Dame Basilica, presided over by the archbishop of Montreal, Cardinal Jean-Claude Turcotte. One of the pallbearers was Cuba's communist president Fidel Castro.

Five months after the funeral Calgary Bishop Fred Henry was asked if he were offended by Trudeau’s funeral. He replied: “Yes, I was.... there were some issues or questions there that might make one kind of pause and consider whether or not this was an appropriate funeral to have or not."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicpoliticians; funeral; kennedy; tedkennedy; vatican
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1 posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:19 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Lady In Blue; fatima; NYer; ELS; Salvation; elcid1970; RobbyS; ...

~~Bump


2 posted on 08/27/2009 10:22:54 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

The Bushes shouldn’t be getting within a thousand miles of that place. They ought to know better.


3 posted on 08/27/2009 10:24:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: STARWISE

I can’t even mutter “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do” because the Kennedy’s know exactly what they’re doing.


4 posted on 08/27/2009 10:26:54 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (Obama's Deficit Projections Assume That He & Congress Will Stop Spending)
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To: STARWISE

“Canada suffered a similar scandal in 2000, with the death of former Catholic Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.

Despite his having legalized abortion, divorce and homosexuality he was given a state funeral in Montreal’s Notre-Dame Basilica, presided over by the archbishop of Montreal, Cardinal Jean-Claude Turcotte. One of the pallbearers was Cuba’s communist president Fidel Castro.”


Heey, maybe they can get Castro to be a pallbearer at Ted Kennedy’s funeral as well.


5 posted on 08/27/2009 10:34:29 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Why not all of the banana republic presidente’s?


6 posted on 08/27/2009 10:36:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: elizabethgrace

It’s a real challenge.

I assume this issue, of a Catholic funeral, must have been taken up with Kennedy before his death. Personally, I would prefer that he not be given the honor of a Mass from the Catholic Church, but that’s not for me to say.

I think this will be put to use against Catholics and I think it sends a wrong message to our young people.


7 posted on 08/27/2009 10:37:38 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Why not all of the banana republic presidente’s?”


Most of them are neither Communist nor mass murderers, and thus not worthy of being one of Ted Kennedy’s pallbearers.


8 posted on 08/27/2009 10:38:28 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: STARWISE

The generalization is too sweeping. The Catholic Church has not changed its position, nor will it just to accommodate the funeral of a sinner. The responsibility lies with the archdiocese of Boston. And, if Kennedy went to confession and confessed his sins, received absolution and communion, he died in a state of grace, and would be entitled to a Catholic funeral Mass.


9 posted on 08/27/2009 10:39:10 PM PDT by redhead (Demand that congress abide by the 10th Amendment. O-care is ILLEGAL.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

“Heey, maybe they can get Castro to be a pallbearer at Ted Kennedy’s funeral as well.”

How’s about a little help from “the Last Brother”.

He’s got the ball now!


10 posted on 08/27/2009 10:39:27 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: STARWISE

With nary a word on the diddling of little boys over the centuries, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a holy smack-down of Teddy during his funeral .


11 posted on 08/27/2009 10:49:19 PM PDT by WackySam
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ping


12 posted on 08/27/2009 10:50:48 PM PDT by Faith
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To: HiTech RedNeck
re:The Bushes shouldn’t be getting within a thousand miles of that place. They ought to know better.)))

Abso-freepin'--lutely.

But the Glamour of the Kennedys seduces the Bushes. They long to be accepted into the circle. Laura so wishes to be embraced by the Irish TRASH. They hold honest middle-class conservatives in contempt....those poor white trash. Don't ask me anymore to contribute to any libraries for W, Laura. I know you wouldn't sit down at a table with the likes of me.

Fie on the Bushes.

13 posted on 08/27/2009 10:53:13 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney?)
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To: STARWISE

Nice to see SOME pointed discussion of the outrages.

However, the bottom line is clearly

BUSINESS as usual.

Horrific.


14 posted on 08/27/2009 10:56:42 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: incredulous joe

“I think this will be put to use against Catholics and I think it sends a wrong message to our young people.”

I agree. I picture Mother Theresa giving her speech at the UN (I think that’s where it was) wherein this tiny lady passionately defended the unborn. Then I picture the forthcoming funeral circus at which a lineup of so-called Catholics will take communion, including Pelousi, Biden, all the Kennedys and so on.

And the circus will include a plethora of robed and adorned priests, Bishops and Cardinals.

I was raised and educated Catholic and I recall being taught about the subject of scandal. Apparently it has been forgotten as a teaching of the ‘Mother Church’.

I’m glad I’m no longer Catholic and participate in a church that steadfastly defends the life of the unborn.


15 posted on 08/27/2009 10:56:53 PM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: redhead

This is true. We are all delivered to the mercy of God and we pray at Mass, “look not on my sins, but on the faith of thy Holy Church” and faith shared by saints, and holy men and women of orders in churches,convents and monasteries is solid as the rock of Gibraltar.


16 posted on 08/27/2009 11:01:50 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: redhead

“And, if Kennedy went to confession and confessed his sins, received absolution and communion, he died in a state of grace, and would be entitled to a Catholic funeral Mass.”

I would think that part of the penance for absolution would include, since he was very public with his views, would be to renounce them publicly. Being a Catholic for all these years, anything less would be heresy, IMHO.

I for one, will loose an awful lot of respect for my Church if theu honer him...


17 posted on 08/27/2009 11:16:23 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Steelfish

“This is true.”

No it’s not... See #17


18 posted on 08/27/2009 11:19:04 PM PDT by babygene
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To: STARWISE
We have no idea if Senator Kennedy had a deathbed re-conversion. (He could then have a Catholic funeral.) We cannot judge.

Beginning Catholic: The Anointing of the Sick: Comfort and Healing [Ecumenical]

19 posted on 08/27/2009 11:22:53 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Mamzelle

Oh my goodness .. that is so nasty and offensive.

Is there no decorum and civility left?


20 posted on 08/27/2009 11:27:21 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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