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Sen. Jim Webb says health care debate has overheated
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | August 28, 2009 | Bill Bartel

Posted on 08/28/2009 6:34:29 AM PDT by csvset

NORFOLK

If Congress wants meaningful health care reform, its leaders must stop rushing to pass a bill and hold legislative hearings to air the pros and cons of specific proposals, U.S. Sen. Jim Webb said Thursday.

"My thought right now is to slow this down," the Virginia Democrat said. "Open it up. Have some hearings. Let people get their different viewpoints out in a very public way."

The problems today with angry people shouting at each other during community forums around the country and the confusion over what might be included in any health care overhaul have their roots in the Obama administration's failure to present a specific framework for reforms, he said.

Instead, the president has left to Congress the task of creating a proposal.

"We've got five different committees bubbling up legislation, and it's all supposed to come together," Webb said, but none of the panels have had Washington hearings in recent months.

While some of the issues with health care have been talked about for years, he said, there should be new hearings on specific proposals.

"By not having these hearings, I think we have encouraged the type of frustrated environment that's out there," Webb said during a meeting with The Virginian-Pilot's editorial board. The senator also spoke about the issue at a private Chamber of Commerce meeting in Norfolk.

"There's a lot of worry out there - a legitimate worry out there - that the government is going to stuff something down their throat in terms of the nature of the care they're going to receive," he said.

Webb has not scheduled any town hall gatherings with constituents to discuss health care because he doesn't believe they're necessary.

"We listen constantly. I don't need to go to a town hall meeting and have a thousand people screaming to say that we've been able to listen to them," he said. "We've responded to 34,000 pieces of mail and e-mail in our office on this issue."

Webb has said he favors overhauling health care to deal with rising prices and to provide coverage for people who are unable to get insurance. He has been supportive of a government insurance plan to compete with private insurance if it can lead to lower costs by competitive pricing.

He restated his desire to examine other systems as possible models for overhauling health care, including the Department of Veterans Affairs. Webb, who recently returned from a multi nation trip to Asia, said the United States also should take a harder look at health systems in Singapore and Switzerland.

Congress is scheduled to resume consideration of health care legislation when it returns Sept. 8 after a month long recess.

Bill Bartel, (757) 446-2398, bill.bartel@pilotonline.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 111th; angrymob; bhohealthcare; hotair; jimwebb; nye; obomacare; riskyscheme; scott; townhalls; virginia; webb; wittman

Uncle Jimbo gonna administer some socialized medicine on you.

1 posted on 08/28/2009 6:34:29 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

STFU Webb you freaking nutjob.

Surpried he hasn’t started shooting into the crowd yet.


2 posted on 08/28/2009 6:35:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: csvset

Well looks like we are slowing the Communist front a little. Hope Obama and Co. get exposed before it is too late.


3 posted on 08/28/2009 6:36:09 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: csvset

Naw.... it’s just over-exposed for what it actually is.


4 posted on 08/28/2009 6:36:33 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: csvset

It heated up, because people who read HB3200 broke into a sweat reading it, then became beet=red woth rage as to the plain reading of this “dung heap” (tip-o-the-hat to Sen Tom “Dung Heap” Harkin for popularizing the term “dung heap”).


5 posted on 08/28/2009 6:38:15 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: csvset

Overheated??

If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, Senator...

By the bye, if you think this is ‘overheated’, you’re going to find that you ain’t seen nothing yet, if you play the ‘nuclear option’.....


6 posted on 08/28/2009 6:38:19 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: csvset

“...and the confusion over what might be included in any health care overhaul have their roots in the Obama administration’s failure to present a specific framework for reforms, he said.”

Is he nuts? obama gets up every DAY and tells us outright LIES about this thing.

If he thinks it’s overheated now, he ain’t seen a THING! Keep pushing this crap on us mr. senator...


7 posted on 08/28/2009 6:39:34 AM PDT by J40000
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To: cripplecreek

“My thought right now is to slow this down,” the Virginia Democrat said. “Open it up. Have some hearings. Let people get their different viewpoints out in a very public way.”

I am betting those hearings will be as fruitful and public as Obama’s pledge in 2008:

“During the presidential campaign, Barack Obama said several times that he intended to negotiate health care reform publicly. In fact, he said, he’d televise the negotiations on C-SPAN, with all the parties sitting at a big table. That way, Americans would be more engaged in the process and insist on real change.
“That’s what I will do in bringing all parties together, not negotiating behind closed doors, but bringing all parties together, and broadcasting those negotiations on C-SPAN so that the American people can see what the choices are, because part of what we have to do is enlist the American people in this process,” Obama said at a debate in Los Angeles on Jan. 31, 2008.” — Politifact, Updated July 10, 2009

FROM
http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/08/7_lies_of_the_obama_administra.php


8 posted on 08/28/2009 6:39:35 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & czars: castrating Congress, perverting the Constitution, and emptying our wallets)
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To: cripplecreek

There’s something really creepy about this guy!


9 posted on 08/28/2009 6:41:34 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: csvset

Translation.....
We must retreat to a position that we can defend. We are getting our butt whipped and the casualties are too great. The enemy has broken our lines and we must get the hell out of here ASAP


10 posted on 08/28/2009 6:42:28 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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To: csvset

Pop. of Switzerland (2007) - 7.6 million
Pop. of Singapore (2006) - 4.5 million
Pop. of Canada (2009) - 34 million
Pop. of USA - (today) - 307 million


11 posted on 08/28/2009 6:42:38 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: csvset
He has been supportive of a government insurance plan to compete with private insurance if it can lead to lower costs by competitive pricing...Webb, who recently returned from a multi nation trip to Asia, said the United States also should take a harder look at health systems in Singapore and Switzerland.

Switzerland and Singapore don't have a government insurance plan. How can Webb be for the government option and say we should look at those couintries? Typical politician trying to have it both ways.

12 posted on 08/28/2009 6:44:19 AM PDT by kabar
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To: csvset

Strategists would likely say this foreshadows the next Obama move. If he shifts right he has another shot at this. Kennedy’s dem only strategy is as dead as he is.


13 posted on 08/28/2009 6:44:21 AM PDT by Wiseghy ( ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE $4 TRILLION DOLLARS AGO?)
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To: cripplecreek
“My thought right now is to slow this down,” the Virginia Democrat said. “Open it up. Have some hearings. Let people get their different viewpoints out in a very public way.”

OK... include tort reform and GET ILLEGALS/UNDOCUMENTED OUT OF THE SYSTEM.... then just watch the temperature fall !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

14 posted on 08/28/2009 6:44:22 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Dr. Ursus

That’s because he’s insane and apparently gets off on writing child porn stories.


15 posted on 08/28/2009 6:44:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: csvset; cripplecreek; All

Allow me to translate for this rude clown who does not belong in the Senate:

“Obamacare is killing the Democrat party. We need to do this piecemeal or sneak it in under the radar as much as possible. I want my party to continue to have complete control of the Congress and White House and Judiciary, so we need to pretend like we give a damn about what the American people think.”


16 posted on 08/28/2009 6:44:46 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: csvset

Jim Webb is a girlyman coward.


17 posted on 08/28/2009 6:45:04 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Socialism is not a bad word. It is a bad concept.)
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To: csvset

Sounds to me like Barry won’t be able to count on him...as “slowing down” will kill the bill; which is what we want, don’t we?


18 posted on 08/28/2009 6:45:10 AM PDT by meandog (GWB IS the reason for BHO!)
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To: csvset

Everyone should read the comments at the link.........some are just down right hilarious!!!!!


19 posted on 08/28/2009 6:47:01 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Dr. Ursus
There’s something really creepy about this guy!

You sure got that right. Weird vibes.

20 posted on 08/28/2009 6:47:31 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: csvset

“health care debate has overheated”

No, health care debate has UNDER THUNK!


21 posted on 08/28/2009 6:48:08 AM PDT by charmedone
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To: csvset

The bill is a lemon any way you slice it ... er, make that a banana any way you split it.


22 posted on 08/28/2009 6:49:51 AM PDT by maggief (KennedyCare ... Dead in the Water)
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To: Sparko

I think this is a CYA situation.

If they stop now and say we are going to have VERY public hearings (without astro turf) then the elected politicians have cover.

HOWEVER THIS IS NOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE. Webb is trying to save his posterior. Obama is trying to divide and break up the USA.

Obama needs a divided country.

Obama needs an angry country.

Obama needs the USA to burn...


23 posted on 08/28/2009 6:52:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cripplecreek

Virginia is having an election for governor. His side is losing. Therefore, he is only trying to pull some bacon out of the fire with those remarks.


24 posted on 08/28/2009 6:53:15 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: longtermmemmory

That is a good assessment.

Obama likes division. He is the Ultimate Divider.


25 posted on 08/28/2009 6:54:01 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & czars: castrating Congress, perverting the Constitution, and emptying our wallets)
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To: csvset
it was red hot when filed having been drafted by a socialist organization with little input from Congress.

It has been a rare oddity that during August, it became clear the protesters knew more about HR3200 than did their Congress persons. The elected officials all seemed to be speaking from the same summary of the bill, which is wrong and apparently prepared by either the Speakers office or the WH.

If that doesn't heat up the discussion then shame on us!!!

26 posted on 08/28/2009 6:58:42 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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“THIS IS NOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE.”

Amen to that. Our ELECTED ‘lawmakers’ didn’t even WRITE this bill!
What in GOD’S name are we doing even CONSIDERING such a piece of legislation???

After all the YEARS of both parties condemning ‘special interest’ groups involvement in DC, we now have those VERY groups WRITING OUR LEGISLATION?!?!?!

Time to THROW THE BUMS OUT!!! EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.


27 posted on 08/28/2009 7:00:09 AM PDT by J40000
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To: SMARTY
BS, do away with the whole bill. Make a new bill for tort reform and another new bill that allows insurance to be sold across state lines. Find a way to overhaul Medicare and Medicaid programs, preferably phasing them out over a long period of time.

In other words get the Government out of health care, do not pass this monstrousity no matter what is put into it or taken out of it. The temp won't drop as long as they try to pass an unconstitutional bill, and any health reform bill is unconstitutional. Ditto the taking over GM and Chrysler and the firing of a CEO of a private company by the government, all unconstitutional and Bozo should already have impeachment proceedings filed against him.

28 posted on 08/28/2009 7:01:19 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Dr. Ursus

“There’s something really creepy about this guy!”

True, but he does have a hot wife.


29 posted on 08/28/2009 7:03:23 AM PDT by takbodan (.)
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To: csvset

So he’s back from chasing the little girls and boys in southeast Asia??? Damn! I was hoping he stepped on a pungi stick.


30 posted on 08/28/2009 7:04:10 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: bmwcyle
Webb has not scheduled any town hall gatherings with constituents to discuss health care because he doesn't believe they're necessary.

He is a coward, as is my Rep., Glenn Nye.

Reps. Wittman, Scott to both hold town halls

At least these two are holding meetings.

31 posted on 08/28/2009 7:04:12 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Dr. Ursus
"There’s something really creepy about this guy!"

Reagan thought so too. That is why he was fired from his post as Secretary of the Navy. The only accomplishment he boasts about is making sure that David Robinson the Basketball Star, served out his military obligation before becoming a Professional Basketball player for the NBA.

He still can't come to accept the fact that Oliver North once defeated him in a boxing match while they were in the U.S. Naval Academy.

Virginia made a mistake.

32 posted on 08/28/2009 7:04:18 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: csvset
The problems today with angry people shouting at each other during community forums around the country and the confusion over what might be included in any health care overhaul have their roots in the Obama administration's failure to present a specific framework for reforms, he said. Instead, the president has left to Congress the task of creating a proposal. "We've got five different committees bubbling up legislation, and it's all supposed to come together," Webb said, but none of the panels have had Washington hearings in recent months.

So there are 'panels' after all.

33 posted on 08/28/2009 7:06:46 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: calex59
Right... Liberals are on dead center and won't budge. The whole thing is a house of cards and will not withstand ANY scrutiny.... Even supporters don't/can't quote from the bill or properly and consistently answer simple questions about it.
34 posted on 08/28/2009 7:07:23 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Sparko

““My thought right now is to slow this down,” the Virginia Democrat said. “Open it up.”

It’s already open, you dummy!

You lost.


35 posted on 08/28/2009 7:16:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: csvset

Jim Webb is a despicable excuse for a human being and I don’t think will win re-election.


36 posted on 08/28/2009 7:16:58 AM PDT by ontap
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To: J40000

No incumbants, period.

We have to show who’s in charge and some good will have to go with the bad I’m afraid.

Then we might get some quality in the gov. again instaed of the sh!t we have now.


37 posted on 08/28/2009 7:22:53 AM PDT by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: ontap

From your lips to God’s ears. He is a gutless wonder (I know, I know, he was in Nam...*sigh*) who refuses to meet with his constituents because he isn’t up for re-election for a few years yet and thinks we will forget all about this. He met in Norfolk with “friendly” Chamber of Commerce people then had a softball interview with local press. Before that he was conducting foreign diplomacy in Singapore and such (Where was Hill?) yet never scheduled meetings with his constituents. He needs to GO!!!!!


38 posted on 08/28/2009 7:29:18 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: csvset
Wrong, Jimmy-boy.

This debate has only defrosted. You want REAL heat, as in white-hot fury? Then I dare you to pass this inhuman monstrosity. And do what you Dhimmicrats do best: cheat. If you can't get 51 votes via a simple majority, then change the rules to benefit yourselves. You scumbags do it all the time and are shameless about it.

39 posted on 08/28/2009 7:35:17 AM PDT by kromike
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To: takbodan

Yeah - she’s number 4!


40 posted on 08/28/2009 8:03:26 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: SMARTY

>>>> GET ILLEGALS/UNDOCUMENTED OUT OF THE SYSTEM. <<<<<

Wot!?!?

Can’t do that, the entire point of “health care reform” is to get our 20 million++ peasant illegal aliens INTO the system, so that you and I and other American taxpayers can pay their bills since they consume MASSIVE amounts of American state and federal health and social services.

Basically, we are being targeted by Zer0 and the sociopaths in the U.S. Congress to give up our health insurance system (the best in the world) and to “spread the wealth around” to our peasant illegal aliens.

And those 20 million++ peasant illegal aliens from Mexico and Mesoamerica are to be made legal in 2010, according to Zer0 less than three weeks ago in Mexico.

So you can be certain that they’ll be huge beneficiaries of this con game by the Unites States Congress.


41 posted on 08/28/2009 8:10:35 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: angkor

“So you can be certain that they’ll be huge beneficiaries of this con game by the Unites States Congress”

Yup!...and vote Democrat till their dying day! Which is the very reason that RINO’s are tripping all over their own feet competing with Liberals for these ‘votes’.

Reminds me of the Lee Marvin line in ‘The Professioanls’: “We been had!”


42 posted on 08/28/2009 8:31:03 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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