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Edward Kennedy: His Funeral and Busy Afterlife (media affront of conservative catholic principles)
Inside Politics ^ | August 29, 2009 | David Gibson

Posted on 08/29/2009 2:12:09 PM PDT by NYer

Teddy Kennedy was memorialized at a solemn funeral Mass on Saturday in Boston in a service reminiscent of the way Kennedy spent his days on Earth: bringing together disparate elements of the America's political and social worlds, flummoxing his foes and inspiring his more numerous admirers – and, albeit through surrogates this time, tirelessly working the room on behalf of his latest legislative project.

This was a "Catholic" event in both the uppercase and lowercase sense of the word--a grand religious ritual that matched or exceeded anything even in the storied history of the Boston church, and a "catholic," or universal, display of the values Kennedy embodied and the breadth of his vision and influence.
Thousands stood in the pouring rain to watch Kennedy's funeral hearse pass by, the kind of sight reminiscent of the passing of FDR, or Martin Luther King Jr., or one of Kennedy's older brothers. And inside the Basilica of Our Lady of Perpetual help in the city's poor Mission district, tenor Placido Domingo sang the Panis Angelicus at Communion while the actor Jack Nicholson sat reverently amid the throng of mourners that filled the church to capacity. Cellist Yo-Yo Ma played and Kennedy's children delivered eulogies featuring stories as warm and humorous as they were emotionally wrenching.

"I don't mind not being president, I just mind that someone else is," Ted Kennedy, Jr., quoted his father as saying in one of many tales that provoked laughter from the throng of 1,500 in the huge church, which was hot and humid, closed off from the outside by heavy security but still damp from the heavy rains that continued to fall outside.
Kennedy also told the story of losing his leg to bone cancer as a 12-year-old, and his father bringing out a sled a few months later during a snowfall for a jolting ride down an ice-slickened driveway. The younger Kennedy's voice started to crack as he recalled being unable to walk back up the hill with his new artificial leg, and plainitively telling his father he couldn't do it.

His father would have none of it. "There is nothing that you can't do, we are going to climb that hill together if it takes us all day," he quoted his father as telling him.
But above all the confluence of opposites meant the funeral was, like Kennedy's life, an inextricable mix of faith and politics, from the presence of 58 current senators from both sides to the aisle (not quite enough to end a filibuster, but still not bad) as well as 11 former senators and three former presidents (the elder George Bush could not attend), led by the current occupant of the Oval Office, Barack Obama, whose poignant eulogy seemed to claim Kennedy's mantle as his own.

'He Had Such a Big Heart'
President Barack Obama delivers the eulogy at the funeral of former Sen. Edward Kennedy Saturday. "Ted Kennedy's life's work was not to champion those with wealth or power or special connections," Obama said. "It was to give a voice to those who were not heard, to add a rung to the ladder of opportunity, to make real the dream of our founding."
Alex Brandon, AP
Alex Brandon, AP

So many of the congregants were, in life, Kennedy's political rivals or foes. Yet any past reservations were rendered mute (if not moot) out of respect for his memory, or just as likely, out of appreciation for their longstanding work -- and friendship -- with the liberal lion of the past generation. As Kennedy's son, Teddy Jr., said of his father in one of the eulogies that drew as many laughs as tears, "He even taught me some of life's harder lessons: such as how to like Republicans."

Before the mass, John McCain was conferring in the pews with Chris Dodd, while California's Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger was there with his wife, Maria Shriver, a Kennedy niece.
Catholic conservatives who saw in Kennedy's liberal politics, and particularly his pro-choice legacy, a betrayal of the faith were stymied at every turn. They lobbied unsuccessfully, if "furiously," in the words of one priest familiar with the arrangements, to have Boston Cardinal Sean O'Malley stay away from the funeral, or to have the mass held in private, but without success. And the presence of Barack Obama, playing a central role in such a sacred and high profile Catholic event, was yet another tweak to the Catholic right, which is still fuming over Obama's appearance at Notre Dame's commencement in May.
Still, the Mass represented the kind of compromise Kennedy might have sought on the Senate floor: The service was held, at his request, at the Basilica of Our Lady of Perpetual Help, also known as the Mission Church, rather than the city's cathedral, which is O'Malley's own pulpit. The principal celebrant was Father J. Donald Monan, a Jesuit priest and former president of Boston College and a Kennedy confidante for decades. Church sources said Kennedy specifically requested these arrangements in part to take some of the pressure off O'Malley and the archdiocese. Having a Jesuit preside in the Mission Church, which is run by the Redemptorist order, removed O'Malley a few welcome degrees from the hot spotlight.
Moreover, almost everything about the service was a kind of sacred imprimatur to all that that Kennedy achieved politically, and a spur to those he left behind to fulfill the dreams he left unfinished. Although "Kennedy" and "Catholic" were often uttered in the same sentence, Ted Kennedy, like many of his clan, was "zealously private" about his personal devotion, as Father Monan said in his opening remarks at the invocation. Yet Kennedy's sendoff did more to peel back the veil on that devotion, and to yoke it to the causes that he and his family labored for.
"It is perhaps here in the quiet of this sacred space that we can best recognize that the two lives, public and private, were in fact one," Monan said. "It was the private life that informed the public service."
This was the sanctuary where Kennedy came to pray as his daughter Kara faced lung cancer. "This church was the place of private prayer for a very public man," Father Mark R. Hession, the Kennedy's parish priest from Cape Cod, said in a long and glowing homily that was an explicit rebuke to those who said Kennedy was something less than a good Catholic.

The Mission Church also sits in one of the city's most distressed neighborhoods -- the kind of place in America that Kennedy sought to help – something that Hession noted t in his homily when he said that Kennedy's "choice of this church for his funeral mass resonates with the meaning of his public life."

Hession's sermon, and indeed all of the remembrances, did not seek to canonize Kennedy as much as his public agenda. "My father was not perfect, but he believed in redemption," said Ted Jr. "Although it hasn't been easy at times to live with this name, I have never been more proud of it than I am today."

Hession spoke of the "inevitable gap of what we are called to and what we achieve" as part of our shared, human condition. And he recalled Ted Kennedy's own words at his brother Bobby's funeral in 1968, that he "need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life, to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it."
Like several other speakers, Hession repeatedly tied Kennedy's faith to his politics. It was a paean to Kennedy's commitment to the Gospel injunctions on behalf of the poor and the hungry, the despised and marginalized, that are often buried in American religious discourse under the battles over sex and politics. The Gospel passage that gave focus to the mass was from Matthew 25, a chapter featuring Christ's most prophetic words about how his followers should care for the poor -- indeed, how such consideration is a prerequisite for salvation.
The intercessory prayers, read by many of the younger Kennedy, sounded like planks of a platform Ted would have written, and in fact most of the prayers quoted Kennedy's own words.

The first called for "decent quality health care as a fundamental right," with others beseeching God for better housing for the poor and greater care for "all those left out or left behind." Each prayer was punctuated with the invocation, "We pray to the Lord," and answered by the congregation, "Lord, hear our prayer."

President Obama delivered the final eulogy, at the end of the Mass, with a stirring address that also cemented the bonds between Kennedy's faith and works – and which seemed to take Kennedy's causes and approach to public life as his own. On this day, perhaps, Kennedy wouldn't have minded so much that someone else was president. Obama, whom Teddy supported so passionately during the 2008 campaign, compared Kennedy to Tennyson's "Happy Warrior" and in such dogged, merry perseverance -- a recurring motif of the day – the president could have been talking about his own aspirations.

"We can still hear his voice bellowing through the Senate chamber, face reddened, fist pounding the podium, a veritable force of nature, in support of health care or workers' rights or civil rights," Obama told the gathering. "And yet, while his causes became deeply personal, his disagreements never did. While he was seen by his fiercest critics as a partisan lightning rod, that is not the prism through which Ted Kennedy saw the world, nor was it the prism through which his colleagues saw him. He was a product of an age when the joy and nobility of politics prevented differences of party and philosophy from becoming barriers to cooperation and mutual respect – a time when adversaries still saw each other as patriots."

"We cannot know for certain how long we have here," Obama continued. "We cannot foresee the trials or misfortunes that will test us along the way. We cannot know God's plan for us. What we can do is to live out our lives as best we can with purpose, and love, and joy. We can use each day to show those who are closest to us how much we care about them, and treat others with the kindness and respect that we wish for ourselves. We can learn from our mistakes and grow from our failures. And we can strive at all costs to make a better world, so that someday, if we are blessed with the chance to look back on our time here, we can know that we spent it well; that we made a difference; that our fleeting presence had a lasting impact on the lives of other human beings. This is how Ted Kennedy lived. This is his legacy."

The even-keeled Obama struggled at times to keep his emotions in check. And after more than two somber and celebratory hours, the funeral finally concluded.

Later in the day, after the coffin was taken to Washington, Kennedy is to be interred at Arlington National Cemetery, alongside his brothers Jack and Bobby, both felled by assassins bullets before they could fulfill the dream Ted Kennedy tried to live out. Washington's retired Cardinal Theodore McCarrick is to preside at the interment, which put an end to the day's solemnity, and to criticism about Kennedy's Catholicism.

But this was in many ways only the beginning. The Congress he loved comes back into session next week, and it was clear that Kennedy's camp will be inspired by his memory, with the political dynamic shifting quickly.
In his eulogy, Edward Kennedy Jr. seemed to direct his father's words at the Republicans arrayed before him in the Mission Church. "Teddy, he told me, Republicans love this country as much as we do," Kennedy's namesake said, quoting his father. "Always be ready to compromise," he said, continuing to remember his father's words. "But never compromise your principles."

"He was an idealist and pragmatist."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholic; cheat; cino; kennedy; liar; media; murderer; philander; tedkennedy

1 posted on 08/29/2009 2:12:09 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Catholic conservatives who saw in Kennedy's liberal politics, and particularly his pro-choice legacy, a betrayal of the faith were stymied at every turn. They lobbied unsuccessfully, if "furiously," in the words of one priest familiar with the arrangements, to have Boston Cardinal Sean O'Malley stay away from the funeral, or to have the mass held in private, but without success.

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2 posted on 08/29/2009 2:13:01 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
'He Had Such a Big Heart'

Very generous with other people's money .

And a hypocrite:


3 posted on 08/29/2009 2:16:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: NYer

Didn’t even watch it on TV. And I’m currently in the hospital!


4 posted on 08/29/2009 2:16:24 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: NYer

Needs the biggest BARF/HURL/PUKE alert that can be given. So Cardinal O’Malley was there?? What good are principles if the Church is going to ignore them and give what amounts to a state funeral to one who so blatantly ignored the most important ones??

And in Kennedy’s name expect to be royally screwed every way possible, loss of physicians, services but gain of immense taxation and national debt. Just dizzying.

(p.s. took out my nastiest comments about priests as child molesters; the church is so hypercritical it hurts to think I was raised in it.)


5 posted on 08/29/2009 2:32:02 PM PDT by CedarDave (Will Rogers on Death & Taxes: "Death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets")
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To: BenLurkin

Good cartoon!


6 posted on 08/29/2009 2:32:25 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: NYer
Is Ted still dead?

Poor guy, he died. Here's a clue for everyone on the entire planet - WE ALL DIE!

The question amongst men of honor is how we lived our lives.

Personally, I believe the Ted Kennedy was a man of dis-honor, and a socialist who has done more harm to our Constitutional principles than any other politician.

And guess what? I get to say, I hated the man when he was alive and still hate him being dead!.

Oh no!! Hate speech...come arrest me Obama brown shirts. I dare you. You want a martyr? I'm your Hucklebee. You know where to find me.

What is with people who can despise a person during their living days, and then feel bad for them just because they died? Again, we all die.

Frig McCain and all their un-Constitutional Congressional brotherhood clique. I'm glad the Socialist, bordering on communist POS got the frig off our planet.

Not to mention, Teddy let a young lady die in a car accident. Guess that was the turning point for politicians to get away with crimes. Nah, there were many earlier...

7 posted on 08/29/2009 2:33:58 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: NYer

Did they bury him yet ?

He has to stay another week out of the ground or he cannot beat Michael Jackson’s Funeral.


8 posted on 08/29/2009 2:36:07 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: elcid1970

I’m with you — didn’t watch it — helped a neighbor kid cut my yard and watched the end of a TV movie. Skipped right over Fox news.


9 posted on 08/29/2009 2:36:35 PM PDT by CedarDave (Will Rogers on Death & Taxes: "Death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets")
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To: NYer
One comment. The made up legacy or myth of Edward Kennedy is before our eyes. He was just a bipartisan guy after all. Nope, No Way. He was one of the most partisian political person I have know in my lifetime. He two brothers would wonder who he was. He has been way of left base for awhile. Get ready for the myth maker books and editorials and children being taught about this truly demagogic politician as just a kind and gentle bipartisian guy off the street.
10 posted on 08/29/2009 2:45:14 PM PDT by therut
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To: NYer

Just got back from a mass where one of the petitions was “to protect the victims of global climate change.” The US Catholic Church has me on my last string these days.


11 posted on 08/29/2009 2:55:31 PM PDT by SMCC1
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To: NYer
The Gospel passage that gave focus to the mass was from Matthew 25, a chapter featuring Christ's most prophetic words about how his followers should care for the poor -- indeed, how such consideration is a prerequisite for salvation.

What? And here I thought it was by grace alone.

12 posted on 08/29/2009 3:01:46 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: NYer
most of the prayers quoted Kennedy's own words. The first called for "decent quality health care as a fundamental right," with others beseeching God for better housing for the poor and greater care for "all those left out or left behind." Each prayer was punctuated with the invocation, "We pray to the Lord," and answered by the congregation, "Lord, hear our prayer."

I must be reading from a different Bible.

13 posted on 08/29/2009 3:03:34 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: NYer
Kennedy is to be interred at Arlington National Cemetery


Such desecration of hallowed ground.
A weed beside the rose.
Assured, not he with them would die,
Yet, worthy, thought he, with them to lie,
A coward beside heroes.

~ Anonymous

14 posted on 08/29/2009 3:08:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: elcid1970

Feel better soon, elcid1970!


15 posted on 08/29/2009 3:08:36 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: NYer

Nobama is about to get a big surprise when he finds out just how personally “black friendly” the kennedy clan really is on welcoming him and manchelle into the kennedy family. This kennedy bro legacy thing is something made up by nobama’s minions trying “movin on up” and maybe even movin on in, at their expense and “the family” just hasn’t figured out how to tell the new found bro to remember to use the backdoor servants entrance.

Saw a few minutes the other day on FNC with one of the younger sons (Joe? with the long white hair?)giving nobama “that look”.

This kennedy bro thing will be fun to watch.


16 posted on 08/29/2009 3:30:41 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: Albion Wilde

Heh, heh. Thanks, man!

Even though Providence Hospital in Columbia SC, is the only place I’d trust my life to, it’s boring being here, even with a caring, attentive staff (even the food is good!). I recommend Providence highly.


17 posted on 08/29/2009 3:54:48 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: NYer
"And we can strive at all costs to make a better world, so that someday, if we are blessed with the chance to look back on our time here, we can know that we spent it well; that we made a difference; that our fleeting presence had a lasting impact on the lives of other human beings. This is how Ted Kennedy lived. This is his legacy."

Yes, Ted Kennedy made a big difference and lasting impact on many lives of murdered unborn children......that is his legacy!

18 posted on 08/29/2009 4:03:06 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: Gerish
"......that is his legacy! "

His real, personal legacy is to make it to where Mexico and the third world is colonizing the United States.

That is permanent and it was the end of our nation and it's future. I believe that it is also a position that his church supported and still supports.

19 posted on 08/29/2009 4:12:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Albion Wilde

The Religion Of Hoops (it isn’t totally from the you know what church — some so called Protestants and evangelicals go for this formulation too)


20 posted on 08/29/2009 4:43:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: ansel12

To be fair to Rome, the stuff being opined out of lackeys’ keyboards from the Vatican doesn’t always (or sometimes, even often) represent popes’ historical positions. I’d think that the current pope would repudiate most of this uber-liberal spin on the RCC, if actually asked. Trouble is, the organization as a whole seems to care very little about how the world reads it. Comity towards fellow religionists seems to trump the sending of a coherent message.


21 posted on 08/29/2009 4:49:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: Albion Wilde
The Gospel passage that gave focus to the mass was from Matthew 25, a chapter featuring Christ's most prophetic words about how his followers should care for the poor -- indeed, how such consideration is a prerequisite for salvation.

Good catch!

Ephesians 2:8,9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast.
22 posted on 08/29/2009 4:56:32 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: dusttoyou

Didn’t Caroline get all wee weed up when she heard BO speak and say he reminded her of her father?


23 posted on 08/29/2009 5:03:55 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Maybe this isn’t quite the time or place for a Protestant vs. Catholic cat fight.

Obama goes around posing as a sure-’nuff evangelical, and we agree what filth issues therefrom.

(I agree with the evangelicals and the simple bible text that Christ-inspired concerns are evidence of a salvation, rather than the generator of a salvation.)


24 posted on 08/29/2009 5:05:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

At some point a human, especially an American conservative just has to start taking the Catholic church at face value.

This constant shifting around of who is in charge on what day and which office did it come from and so on and so on is just too much political intrigue and entirely too slippery to deal with.

The Catholic vote is a very dependable Democrat vote and it always has been, it used to be even more dependable. At some point we have to quit pretending that the people in the pews are always going against the wishes of the people preaching to the pews and running the religion. After a few generations or so of a person constantly getting the same run around he finally has to say that things are going pretty much the way the leaders want it to.


25 posted on 08/29/2009 5:11:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Obama goes around posing as a sure-’nuff evangelical

He claims to be evangelical? Since when does that denomination have 'hate' as their core belief - along w/a G*d dam America mantra while going full throttle on killing the innocent.

I'm not engaging in a Prot/Cath fight. I'm speaking about what The Lord's Word says.
26 posted on 08/29/2009 5:12:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Just that a religion’s theological claims may have little or nothing to do with its public face.


27 posted on 08/29/2009 5:16:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: ansel12

Decades ago, many more Democrats were not afraid to live a reverent life, either. It wasn’t always that one of the biggest foes of the womb-bound was largely comprised of claimants of a church whose top preacher keeps on condemning abortion.


28 posted on 08/29/2009 5:19:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I didn’t get that, what were you saying?


29 posted on 08/29/2009 5:28:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Obama goes around posing as a sure-’nuff evangelical

I didn't know that Obama claims to be an evangelical Christian, do you have a source for that?

30 posted on 08/29/2009 5:30:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Jesus came to do away w/religion and all it's (man's) traditions. Christians follow His Word.

Colassians2 vs 6-8
As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
31 posted on 08/29/2009 5:52:22 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ansel12
I believe that it is also a position that his church supported and still supports.

You confuse that which you selectively hear with what is actual teaching.

32 posted on 08/29/2009 6:07:09 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Which tells me nothing, as an American voter what should I know about Catholic influence on American immigration problems?

From what I have read the Catholic church is against tough immigration laws in America.


33 posted on 08/29/2009 6:11:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS PROTECTED ILLEGALS FOR MANY YEARS.I QUIT GIVING AT SUNDAY MASS YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE CHURCH IN CHICAGO RAN AN UNDERGROUND FOR ILLEGALS.THIS WAS PAID TROUGH CATHOLIC CHARITIES THAT RECEIVED MONEY FROM SUNDAY COLLECTIONS AND SPECIAL COLLECTIONS.I ONLY GIVE TO PRO-LIFE AND THE CLERGY THAT TAUGHT MY FAMILY AND ME IN SCHOOL.I’M PROUD OF THE EDUCATION MY GRANDCHILDREN HAVE RECEIVED IN OUR CATHOLIC SCHOOLS.I LOVE THEIR PRO-LIFE STANCE AND THE UP STANDING YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THEY BRING HOME.


34 posted on 08/29/2009 6:44:40 PM PDT by castlebar lass
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To: castlebar lass

the church also funded, through the CCHD, acorn for decades and the community organization which obama ran.


35 posted on 08/29/2009 7:46:01 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: NYer

I didn’t watch Chappaquiddick Ted’s funeral on TV, I was busy taking a crap at the time. Afterwords, I did briefly think about him as I looked down into the toilet bowl - it required a double flush. In his honor and memory, from now on everytime nature calls I will respectfully refer to it as “time to take a Ted”.


36 posted on 08/29/2009 8:10:54 PM PDT by Ragtime
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To: SMCC1

Try a different Parish.


37 posted on 08/29/2009 9:48:25 PM PDT by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The Religion Of Hoops

I'm not sure I get this -- do you mean, you have to "score" to "win" redemption?

38 posted on 08/30/2009 8:04:17 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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