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Eric Holderís Hidden Agenda: The investigation isnít about torture, but about transnationalism.
Nice Deb; NRO ^ | 08-28-2009 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 08/29/2009 6:40:55 PM PDT by thouworm

"I believe the explanation lies in the Obama administration’s fondness for transnationalism, a doctrine of post-sovereign globalism in which America is seen as owing its principal allegiance to the international legal order rather than to our own Constitution and national interests.

"Recall that the president chose to install former Yale Law School dean Harold Koh as his State Department’s legal adviser. Koh is the country’s leading proponent of transnationalism. He is now a major player in the administration’s deliberations over international law and cooperation. Naturally, membership in the International Criminal Court, which the United States has resisted joining, is high on Koh’s agenda. The ICC claims worldwide jurisdiction, even over nations that do not ratify its enabling treaty, notwithstanding that sovereign consent to jurisdiction is a bedrock principle of international law."

(Excerpt) Read more at article.nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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Nice Deb: "A few days ago, I asked why the Obama Justice Dept. was reopening the CIA abuse case. I wondered what they had to gain from investigating the people who kept us safe for eight years when an overwhelmingly majority of Americans disapprove of it. There were some good suggestions in the comments. Jackstraw hinted ominously:

"Hillary Clinton came out the other day and explicitly endorsed the world court and bemoaned the fact that the US is not a player in it … yet.""

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/why-the-obama-justice-dept-is-reopening-controversial-cia-abuse-case/

1 posted on 08/29/2009 6:40:56 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

We Americans have a lot of work to do scraping this crap off of the bottom of our shoes in 2010 and 2012.


2 posted on 08/29/2009 6:43:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: thouworm

I just figured it was because he didn’t have Kosovo to bomb.


3 posted on 08/29/2009 6:45:35 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (ObamaCare...there's some change ya didn't count on.)
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To: thouworm

This is the article Rush was talking about yesterday. Leave it to Ubama and Holder and the rest of those cowardly scumbags to look for a sneaky, back-door way to try to harass Cheney and Bush.


4 posted on 08/29/2009 6:46:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: thouworm
"I believe the explanation lies in the Obama administration’s fondness for transnationalism, a doctrine of post-sovereign globalism in which America is seen as owing its principal allegiance to the international legal order rather than to our own Constitution and national interests.

It's about the destruction of capitalist America and advancement of global communism/socialism.

5 posted on 08/29/2009 6:53:40 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: thouworm
Eric Holder's role in the pardons of BLA (Black Liberation Army) comrades/Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Evans (1983 Brinks Truck robbery and triple murder):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165052/posts

Eric Holder, Bill Clinton, Wright's 'Black Liberation' "church", and the pardons of 16 members of the Puerto Rican Marxist terrorist group FALN:(Wright's Marxist BLT 'church' (Obama's 'church' for 20+ years) advocated for FALN terrorists)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165024/posts
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"Fraunces Tavern is a restaurant and museum in lower Manhattan, New York City. It was built on the site of a former building which played a significant role in pre-Revolutionary activities, and in which, on 4 December 1783, General George Washington bade farewell to his officers at the end of the Revolution, before returning to his home, Mount Vernon."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunces_Tavern
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"During the 1970s and 1980s, FALN members set off at least 138 bombs in five major U.S. Cities. Six Americans were killed in those attacks. One of those bombings, in January 1975, was at the historic Fraunces Tavern in lower Manhattan while patrons were at lunch. The explosion killed four and injured more than 50."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/bill_hillary_and_the_faln.html
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"Between 1974 and 1985 the FALN (Puerto Rican Armed Forces of National Liberation) organized 120 terrorist bombings in the United States. Many Americans were killed in those bombings, and many more were crippled. In 1983, another Puerto Rican terrorist group known as the Macheteros, attacked and robbed a Wells Fargo armored car in Connecticut. The Macheteros intended to use the money to finance a terrorist campaign against the United States. Working under the cover of Puerto Rican nationalism and claiming to act on behalf of the 'oppressed people of Puerto Rico,' the FALN and the Macheteros are nothing but Communist revolutionaries. Both groups were organized by Fidel Castro's secret police. The ultimate goal of the FALN and the Macheteros is the creation of an independent Marxist-Leninist dictatorship on the island of Puerto Rico."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19760

6 posted on 08/29/2009 6:54:26 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: thouworm
Why The Obama Justice Dept is reopening Controversial CIA Abuse Case

Why did x42 spend millions assassinating a few camels? Because the alternate news for the day was too damning.

7 posted on 08/29/2009 6:54:50 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: All
The Bush-Cheney "investigators" need to be investigated! (ties to revolutionary communist orgs)
various sources | July 13, 2009 | info compiled by me

Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 8:37:28 AM ET by ETL

House Judiciary Committee chairman/chief Bush administration "torture" investigator, democrat John Conyers Jr of Michigan is an endorser of the Revolutionary Communist Party movement/organization, "World Can't Wait"...

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Former Abu Ghraib Brigadier General, Janis Karpinski, is also an endorser of the revolutionary communist org...

Details here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2291371/posts

8 posted on 08/29/2009 6:55:20 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: thouworm

Name me one good thing Socialism or Communism has brought to the world? And I will show you a world were Dictators, Fascists and Human Rights Criminals are supported


9 posted on 08/29/2009 6:59:32 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: thouworm

You win a cookie! That is the intent. Subrogate the USA to the “New World Order”. Guess all the “Kooks” are right after all.


10 posted on 08/29/2009 6:59:37 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’m not of the opinion we have that long. Conservative constituents need to make their representatives know that silence is not an option. There has been enough time for the House & the Senate to see that we have a Socio-fascist coup in progress.

And do moderate Dem representatives and senators actually think they are going to be able to keep their jobs?

And when will it dawn on the MSM that their jobs will be replaced by the very group of thugs they are presently championing?


11 posted on 08/29/2009 7:00:34 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: ETL

Bingo ,Pal: I dont know squat about transnationalism, but I can see Obama and Holder with the help of Nancy Pelosi trying to destroy America and advancing Socialism and the Muslim religion.


12 posted on 08/29/2009 7:04:02 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: ETL

thanks for those; I have been reseaching & I know some Freeper has done it before me-—if I could only locate it. I already had you on my “go-to” Freeper list because your posts are so good (also, another Freeper suggested you.) I appreciate the work you are doing.

Like I said, I don’t think we have another 2 1/2 yrs to ride out. My greatest hope is that somehow BHO is forced to resign.


13 posted on 08/29/2009 7:07:22 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

It is a back door way to get at President Bush and Vice President Chenney,and possibly Rumsfield.


14 posted on 08/29/2009 7:10:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: Venturer
I can see Obama and Holder with the help of Nancy Pelosi trying to destroy America and advancing Socialism and the Muslim religion.

It has nothing to do with the advancement of the muslim religion. It's *all* about communism/socialism.

15 posted on 08/29/2009 7:14:15 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Venturer

Amazon Book Review:
"Vastly Illuminating!" September 25, 2004
By Kat Bakhu

"I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air."
$27.00
http://www.amazon.com/Unholy-Alliance-Radical-Islam-American/dp/089526076X

Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left -by David Horowitz
Not all dissent is equal, and Americans whose actions are calculated to give aide and comfort to the butchers who murdered 3,000 innocent people on September 11, 2001 are not patriotic at all... they are, in fact, quite the opposite.

$18.00 from David Horowitz's website, FrontPageMag.com:
(click on either of the two books shown in the column on the left side of the page to get to his 'book store' section)
http://frontpagemag.com/

16 posted on 08/29/2009 7:14:36 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Two words Obama adm are trying to suppress lately: czars & communist.


17 posted on 08/29/2009 7:14:59 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Thanks for all that. I appreciate it. :)

And you’re right. He SHOULD be forced to resign. It couldn’t be more obvious that his aim is to destroy America as we know it. The guy has spent his whole entire life around people and groups that seek the destruction of America and Capitalism.


18 posted on 08/29/2009 7:19:12 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: thouworm

It’s not that this is the first time. There have been 4 or 5 occasions where newspaper stories were planted that Obama’s doing something or other about the CIA.

They all have one thing in common. They immediately succeed news cycles where Obama is shown to have misled, say on health care.

These maneuvres are red meat for baby boom urban liberals still pining to get at the military or CIA.


19 posted on 08/29/2009 7:19:19 PM PDT by Shermy ("disregard for the facts as understood by the mainstream media"..That's me!!)
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To: thouworm

It’s Soros.


20 posted on 08/29/2009 7:20:33 PM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: ETL

Ordering Shadow Party; will get Unholy Alliance also..
http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Party-Hillary-Radicals-Democratic/dp/1595551034/ref=pd_sim_b_7

In researching Obama and Ayers in early 80’s, I began to see that juggernaut that has been built didn’t just absorb BLT churches, but also certain wings of left-leaning Catholic & Prot churches -— the scope and organization and odd-bedfellows is truly stunning.

“butchers who murdered 3,000 innocent people on September 11, 2001 are not patriotic at all... they are, in fact, quite the opposite.”

And BHO wants to call it “National Service Day” or some such newspeak nonsense.


21 posted on 08/29/2009 7:32:17 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm
I think the Dems and Obama think they will divide the opposition energy by opening many different fronts at once. I think they don't understand that every controversial thing they do gets another previously silent group involved and adds to the overall opposition to Obamas brand of quick, under cover change. Soon his approval ratings will be less than 30%, all he needs to do next is threaten to takeover the oil industry and next try to register gun owners.
22 posted on 08/29/2009 7:37:48 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Shermy

He’s slippery & lies with ease. A post by penelopesire struck me as being dead-on:

“At this point, Obama’s lawlessness and criminal Abuse Of Power is IN YOUR FACE!!

He and his democrat marxist minions fear no-one. Why should they? They control everything...including the media.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2326614/posts?page=236#236

I replied: “Very! Been thinking same thing...Hubris with a sneer.”


23 posted on 08/29/2009 7:40:32 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm; penelopesire

Sorry penelopesire; meant to ping!


24 posted on 08/29/2009 7:42:06 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm
In researching Obama and Ayers in early 80’s, I began to see that juggernaut that has been built didn’t just absorb BLT [Black Liberation Theology] churches, but also certain wings of left-leaning Catholic & Prot churches

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."

YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright and Dr. William Ayers
are greeted by Rebekah Levin with the Committee
for a Just Peace in Israel and Palestine.
(Chuck Berman/Chicago Tribune / May 17, 2009)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-ayers_wrightmay18,0,6689521.story
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Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml
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For much more on Marxist
"Black Liberation Theology",
see my FR Home page:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/

25 posted on 08/29/2009 7:45:37 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: jyro

“every controversial thing they do gets another previously silent group involved”

the grassroots pushback has been amazing. Reps go to townhall mtgs with WH talking points & citizens go with the acutal BILL, having actually READ it. lol


26 posted on 08/29/2009 7:47:42 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: ETL

How do you stay so organized!!!

“At the core of his [Wright’s] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God”

I’ve started calling it, God pressed into service to a higher cause

“anti-Christian understanding of God” -— and an anti-Christian understanding of Jesus Christ.


27 posted on 08/29/2009 8:13:34 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm
Re: “anti-Christian understanding of God”

From Jeff Head's website...
One notable quote from [James] Cone describing his Black Liberation Theology is as follows:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." - "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).
http://www.jeffhead.com/blacklibtheology.htm

African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
http://www.amazon.com/African-American-Religious-Thought-Anthology/dp/0664224598
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HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

28 posted on 08/29/2009 8:18:45 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: thouworm

Of course, everything done up to this time is to effectively neuter the USA.


29 posted on 08/29/2009 8:22:52 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ETL; Fred Nerks

You’re giving me a lot of homework; lol. Did you go through this thread?

Freeper Fred Nerks has done a ton of historical research, which I have been following. WEB Dubois, a convergent figure.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts


30 posted on 08/29/2009 8:28:50 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Should be illegal.


32 posted on 08/30/2009 7:51:06 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: thouworm; ETL; Venturer; ntmxx; screaminsunshine; Fred Nerks

Socialism - The Roots of America’s New Slavery

http://www.augustreview.com/news_commentary/general/%20the_socialization_of_america_20090701124/

Dr David Noebel:

Russian thinker and author Fyodor Dostoyevsky offered the following take on socialism: “The future kingdom of socialism will be a terrible tyranny of criminals and murderers. It will throw humanity into a true hell of spiritual suffering and poverty.”

Socialist George Bernard Shaw added: “You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner.”

That’s probably why Margaret Thatcher added that the “problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

Today, we can link the U. S. House of Representatives—and its radical, progressive, socialistic societies and caucuses— directly to Karl Marx through Keynes and the Fabians.

Before identifying many of the House members caught up in the socialist web, however, let’s first identify the major economic dogma of the early socialists.

Socialism is the economic system of both the Marxist-Leninist worldview and the Fabian Society worldview. John Maynard Keynes was a member of the British Fabian Society, whose American counterparts were the Intercollegiate Socialist Society and the League for Industrial Democracy. Their American voices were centered in the ideas of Norman Thomas and John Dewey among others. Dewey, you may remember, was an early signatory of The Humanist Manifesto (1933) and its atheistic, socialist gospel.

Socialists are united in their desire to see capitalism destroyed, either forcefully or gradually, and most would rejoice if Christianity were destroyed along with it. Socialists and liberals generally see in Christians “an infallible marker of mental retardation.” (Claremont Review of Books, Winter 2008/09, p. 6)

The Christian worldview endorses sound or hard money, fiscal responsibility, saving for a rainy day, deferred gratification, paying off monthly credit card bills, living within one’s means, etc. Keynesian economics, by contrast, argues for consumption, extravagance, and not providing for the future, arguing that “the great vice is saving, thrift, and financial prudence.” (Keynes At Harvard, p. 63) Keynesians love huge national spending, debt, and high inflation—anathema to Christians and conservatives.

Socialists see capitalism as an evil economic system founded on the concepts of profit, individualism, private property, private business, freedom to buy and sell products and services, etc. Indeed, a working definition of capitalism is “the peaceful and free exchange of goods and services without theft, fraud, and breech of contract.” Capitalism is tailored to individual initiative rather than groupthink or community initiative. Nearly all inventions that have furthered the capitalistic enterprise and blessed humanity in the process have been the result of individual initiative rather than committee, group, or government activity.


33 posted on 08/30/2009 8:01:14 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

I see it as Americanism vs. Communism.


34 posted on 08/30/2009 8:04:36 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: thouworm

The Slavers/Socialists of the New American Slavery ORGANIZE-— in Congress

http://www.augustreview.com/news_commentary/general/%20the_socialization_of_america_20090701124/

[note: this list is, by now, outdated; the membership swells]

The legislators involved in this socialistic undertaking belong to one or more radical House organizations:

the Progressive Democrats of America (6 House members),
the Congressional Progressive Caucus (74 House members),
the Congressional Black Caucus (43 House members), and
the Democratic Socialists of America.

Incidentally, the Democratic Socialists of America do not identify their House members since they consider all members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus part of their membership due to the fact that “they both shared operative social democratic politics.”

The most prominent national member of DSA is AFL-CIO President John J. Sweeney, who could well be the most powerful influence in the House of Representatives. And for the record, the Chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus is Congressional Progressive Caucus member Barbara Lee (CA-9). The interconnections between all these socialist-based organizations is staggering.

These organizations and their members quite literally comprise a Socialist Red Army within the very contours of the House of Representatives.

According to the Wikipedia article on the organization, “The Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) is the single largest partisan caucus in the United States House of Representatives and works together to advance progressive [socialist] issues and causes.

The CPC was founded in 1991 by independent [socialist] Congressman Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who remains a member as Senator. [The CPC] represents about a third of the House Democratic Caucus. Of the twenty standing committees of the House, eleven are chaired by members of the CPC.”

When the CPC claimed 64 members in 2006 (now 74 and gaining), the leftist publication The Nation boasted, “The largest ideological caucus in the new House Democratic majority will be the Congressional Progressive Caucus, with a membership that includes New York’s Charles Rangel, Michigan’s John Conyers, Massachusetts’s Barney Frank and at least half the incoming chairs of House standing committees” (The Nation, November 12,2006).


35 posted on 08/30/2009 8:15:49 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm; ETL; Venturer; ntmxx; screaminsunshine; Fred Nerks

NAS (New American Slavery) Legislative Branch of the Federal Government grow in power and chair House committees:

According to the Wikipedia article on the organization, “The Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) is the single largest partisan caucus in the United States House of Representatives and works together to advance progressive [socialist] issues and causes. The CPC was founded in 1991 by independent [socialist] Congressman Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who remains a member as Senator. [The CPC] represents about a third of the House Democratic Caucus. Of the twenty standing committees of the House, eleven are chaired by members of the CPC.”

When the CPC claimed 64 members in 2006 (now 74 and gaining), the leftist publication The Nation boasted, “The largest ideological caucus in the new House Democratic majority will be the Congressional Progressive Caucus, with a membership that includes New York’s Charles Rangel, Michigan’s John Conyers, Massachusetts’s Barney Frank and at least half the incoming chairs of House standing committees” (The Nation, November 12,2006).

These current eleven chairs are CPC members:

* George Miller (CA-9)—Chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee;
* Henry Waxman (CA-30)—Chairman of the Committee on Energy and Commerce;
* Bob Filner (CA-51)—Chairman of the House Veterans Affairs Committee;
* Barney Frank (MA-4)—Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee;
* John Conyers (MI-14)—Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee;
* Bennie Thompson (MS-2)—Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee;
* Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)—Chairwoman of the House Small Business Committee;
* Charles Rangel (NY-15)—Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee;
* Louise Slaughter (N Y-28)—Chairwoman of the House Rules Committee;
* Bob Brady (PA-1)—Chairman of the House Administration Committee; and
* Edward J. Markey (MA-7)—Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming.

As of February 20,2009, the Co-Chairs of the CPC are
Raul M. Grijalva (AZ-7) and
Lynn Woolsey (CA-6).

The Vice Chairs are
Diane Watson (CA-33),
Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18),
Mazie Hirono (HI-2), and
Dennis Kucinich (OH-10).

Incidentally, the CPC website was “hosted by the Democratic Socialists of America” until 1999, a group affiliated with the Socialist International which was founded by Karl Marx, Saint-Simon, and Fourier!


36 posted on 08/30/2009 8:57:34 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm; ETL; Venturer; ntmxx; screaminsunshine; Fred Nerks

url for post #36
http://www.augustreview.com/news_commentary/general/%20the_socialization_of_america_20090701124/

THE VOTING BLOCK of New American Slavery

(Does the average registered liberal or moderate Democrat know by whom and by what their party has been hijacked?)

HOUSE Members

All members are members of the Democratic Party or caucus with the Democratic Party. There are currently (July 2009) 83 total declared Progressives including 79 voting Representatives, 2 non-voting Representatives and 2 Senators.

Arizona

* Ed Pastor (AZ-4, Phoenix)
* Raúl Grijalva (AZ-7, Tucson) - Co-Chair

California

* Lynn Woolsey (CA-6, Santa Rosa) - Co-Chair
* George Miller (CA-7, Richmond) - Chairman, House Education and Labor Committee
* Barbara Lee (CA-9, Oakland) - Chairwoman, Congressional Black Caucus
* Pete Stark (CA-13, Fremont)
* Michael Honda (CA-15, San Jose)
* Sam Farr (CA-17, Monterey)
* Henry Waxman (CA-30, Los Angeles) - Chairman, House Energy and Commerce Committee
* Xavier Becerra (CA-31, Los Angeles)
* Judy Chu (CA-32, El Monte)
* Diane Watson (CA-33, Los Angeles)
* Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34, Los Angeles)
* Maxine Waters (CA-35, Inglewood)
* Laura Richardson (CA-37, Long Beach)
* Linda Sanchez (CA-39, Lakewood)
* Bob Filner (CA-51, San Diego) - Chairman, House Veterans Affairs Committee

Colorado

* Jared Polis (CO-02, Boulder)

Connecticut

* Rosa DeLauro (CT-3, New Haven)

Florida

* Corrine Brown (FL-3, Jacksonville)
* Alan Grayson (FL-8, Orlando)
* Robert Wexler (FL-19, Boca Raton)
* Alcee Hastings (FL-23, Fort Lauderdale)

Georgia

* Hank Johnson (GA-4, Lithonia)
* John Lewis (GA-5, Atlanta)

Hawaii

* Neil Abercrombie (HI-1, Honolulu)
* Mazie Hirono (HI-2, Honolulu)

Illinois

* Bobby Rush (IL-1, Chicago)
* Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-2, Chicago Heights)
* Luis Gutierrez (IL-4, Chicago)
* Danny Davis (IL-7, Chicago)
* Jan Schakowsky (IL-9, Chicago)
* Phil Hare (IL-17, Rock Island)

Indiana

* André Carson (IN-7, Indianapolis)

Iowa

* Dave Loebsack (IA-2, Cedar Rapids)

Maine

* Chellie Pingree (ME-1, North Haven)

Maryland

* Donna Edwards (MD-4, Fort Washington)
* Elijah Cummings (MD-7, Baltimore)

Massachusetts

* John Olver (MA-1, Amherst)
* Jim McGovern (MA-3, Worcester)
* Barney Frank (MA-4, Newton) - Chairman, House Financial Services Committee
* John Tierney (MA-6, Salem)
* Ed Markey (MA-7, Malden)
* Mike Capuano (MA-8, Boston)

Michigan

* Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (MI-13, Detroit)
* John Conyers (MI-14, Detroit) - Chairman, House Judiciary Committee

Minnesota

* Keith Ellison (MN-5, Minneapolis)

Mississippi

* Bennie Thompson (MS-2, Bolton) - Chairman, House Homeland Security Committee

Missouri

* William Lacy Clay, Jr. (MO-1, St. Louis)
* Emanuel Cleaver (MO-5, Kansas City)

New Jersey

* Donald Payne (NJ-10, Newark)
* Frank Pallone (NJ-06)

New Mexico

* Ben R. Luján (NM-3, Santa Fe)

New York

* Jerry Nadler (NY-8, Manhattan)
* Yvette Clarke (NY-11, Brooklyn)
* Nydia Velazquez (NY-12, Brooklyn) - Chairwoman, House Small Business Committee
* Carolyn Maloney (NY-14, Manhattan)
* Charles Rangel (NY-15, Harlem) - Chairman, House Ways and Means Committee
* Jose Serrano (NY-16, Bronx)
* John Hall (NY-19, Dover Plains)
* Maurice Hinchey (NY-22, Saugerties)
* Louise Slaughter (NY-28, Rochester) - Chairwoman, House Rules Committee
* Eric Massa (NY-29, Corning)

North Carolina

* Mel Watt (NC-12, Charlotte)

Ohio

* Marcy Kaptur (OH-9, Toledo)
* Dennis Kucinich (OH-10, Cleveland)
* Marcia Fudge (OH-11, Warrensville Heights)

Oregon

* Earl Blumenauer (OR-3, Portland)
* Peter DeFazio (OR-4, Eugene)

Pennsylvania

* Bob Brady (PA-1, Philadelphia) - Chairman, House Administration Committee
* Chaka Fattah (PA-2, Philadelphia)

Tennessee

* Steve Cohen (TN-9, Memphis)

Texas

* Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18, Houston)
* Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30, Dallas)

Virginia

* Jim Moran (VA-8, Alexandria)

Vermont

* Peter Welch (VT-At Large)

Washington

* Jim McDermott (WA-7, Seattle)

Wisconsin

* Tammy Baldwin (WI-2, Madison)
* Gwen Moore (WI-4, Milwaukee)

Non-voting

* Donna M. Christensen (Virgin Islands)
* Eleanor Holmes Norton (District of Columbia)

SENATE Members

* Bernie Sanders (Vermont)
* Tom Udall (New Mexico)


37 posted on 08/30/2009 9:10:12 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Don’t forget Kathy Castor of Tampa. A wild eyed fanatical Commie. I am going to her townhall Tues. should be fun.


38 posted on 08/30/2009 9:47:30 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: screaminsunshine

Screaminsunshine: Can you provide a link that she belongs to any of the organizations below. I could not find any.

Progressive Democrats of America (6 House members),
Congressional Progressive Caucus (74 House members),
Congressional Black Caucus (43 House members), and
Democratic Socialists of America.


39 posted on 08/30/2009 10:15:34 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm; All

This may amount to nothing, BUT it bothers me that the DOJ is now getting it’s hands into DHS....transnationalism???

Monday, August 10, 2009
WWW.USDOJ.GOV
CRM
(202) 514-2007
TDD (202) 514-1888
ICE and DOJ Sign Agreements to Share Information on Drug Trafficking and Organized Crime

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) signed two Memoranda of Understanding (MOUs) on Thursday, Aug. 6, 2009, to foster increased communication between participating agencies at the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) Fusion Center and the International Organized Crime Intelligence and Operations Center (IOC-2).

“The OCDETF Fusion Center and IOC-2 are founded on the principle that we can accomplish more together than we can separately,” said Deputy Attorney General David W. Ogden. “By bringing together the agencies and personnel with existing resources and expertise we can work more effectively as partners to shut down organized crime networks, seize assets and save taxpayer dollars in the process. This agreement, coupled with recent agreements between ICE, DEA and ATF will allow new levels of cooperation and intelligence sharing.”

“These additional agreements we’ve signed with our Department of Justice law enforcement partners help us all better combat the worst criminal offenders,” said Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for ICE John Morton. “By combining our resources, we expect to stop more drug smugglers and organized crime across the country.”

By becoming an active participate in the OCDETF Fusion Center as outlined in one MOU, ICE will be adding more than 25 million records, including reports of investigation, wiretap intercept information and financial investigative material, from its drug-related investigations and drug-related financial investigations to the Fusion Center. ICE will also gain access to the additional agency information available through the Fusion Center. This increased partnership will further help in the joint fight against drug trafficking organizations by all of the other Fusion Center agencies, including the FBI, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).

The ability of all participating Fusion Center agencies to develop target profiles and actionable investigative leads to disrupt and dismantle significant drug traffickers is enhanced by the increase of information collected at the Fusion Center. In addition to sharing in one collection of information, coordinating with the Fusion Center allows participating law enforcement agencies to “de-conflict” their investigations. De-confliction ensures that two or more agencies are not duplicating resources or that one agency’s investigation will not have a negative impact on another agency’s investigation.

DOJ and ICE also signed an MOU regarding ICE participation in the newly-created IOC-2, which marshals the resources and information of nine U.S. law enforcement agencies, as well as federal prosecutors, to collectively combat the threats posed by international criminal organizations to domestic safety and security. It allows partner agencies to join together in a task force setting, combine data and produce actionable leads for investigators and prosecutors working nationwide to combat international organized crime, and to coordinate the resulting multi-jurisdictional investigations and prosecutions. ICE’s new membership in IOC-2 will allow all the partner agencies to draw on data that now ICE will provide, while allowing ICE to work investigations with other agencies that may be targeting the same syndicates.

These latest MOUs follow closely on the heels of two additional agreements DEA and ATF, respectively, signed recently with ICE. Together, these agreements show a significant level of partnership and cooperation within the federal law enforcement agencies to target major criminal organizations.

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09-784

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2009/August/09-crm-784.html


40 posted on 08/30/2009 10:25:05 AM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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To: thouworm

No but she might as well. Totally Socialist.


41 posted on 08/30/2009 10:44:32 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: thouworm; ETL; Venturer; ntmxx; screaminsunshine; Fred Nerks; AuntB

“Does the average registered liberal or moderate Democrat know by whom and by what their party has been hijacked?”

Pat Caddell asks the same question.

PAT CADDELL, a Democratic consultant (of whom Ann Coulter says, “He is probably the world’s sanest Democrat.”), on the Glenn Beck program August 27, 2009:

Caddell: People outside at the very ends come together in totalitarianism. And by the way, there are wacko Republicans and we could name them, but I am concerned right now in my own party [Democratic], that we seem to be infiltrated by forces. And it’s all part of this we must win at all costs. The politicians-—it’s the thing with ACORN that drives me crazy. This is a criminal organization designed to stop people and steal votes.

Moderate Democrats in my party-—the Republicans don’t know how to raise this issue. The fact is, with the things that are going on...These politicians take an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION against all enemies foreign and domestic, not an oath to protect the Democratic party or the Republican party, and that’s what we are missing here. And I am saying, I am concerned that my party [Democratic] is being sabotaged. And Moderate Democrats better come and deal with what’s happening to us.

Beck: I think there’s 70% or 80% of this country, they want no part of this.

Caudell: At least 80%. They think the politicians work for themselves

Beck: On both sides of the aisle.

Caudell: Yes
.....................
Caddell on 1000 page bills, and Eric Holder and “whose running the show here.”

See Glenn Beck video clip, Glenn Beck program, 8/24/09:
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/08/democrat-pollster-pat-caddell-tells.html

Caddell: I am of the democrats of the common man. That’s where I come from. This is a different Democratic Party.
Washington has made itself the ENEMY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.”

Beck: Would you say that it’s revolutionary?

Caddell: I would say that it is ELITIST; that it knows best.
......................

Caddell on 1000 pg bills -— “the dog that’s not barking.”

Caddell: I think they are flooding the zone....Sending out so many things that nobody can cover it all. But what bothers me is a question that should be asked. I was with an administration and the President comes in [Carter], a President who had not been experienced in Washington-—and 6 months in, people were still trying to find where the bathrooms were.

Where did all these pieces of programs come from in this kind of detail? Where do you get 1000 pages or 1300 pages one after the other in such a short amount of time? Those are the questions that somebody ought to ask because it’s the dog that’s not barking.
.......................

Caddell on Eric Holder and CIA investigation:

Glenn Beck: People think Obama is using the unions. Is it possible that it is the other way around, and I just don’t mean just the unions-—these vast organizations-—that he is not necessarily the grand architect; that somebody else has sketched this out?

Caddell: I got to tell you, this question hit me today...when the Attorney General Eric Holder, who I have not been publicly very fond of ever since he decided to go in the bag on China on the treasons and trying to buy our elections during the Clinton administration; and gave Marc Rich a pardon, one of the most evil men that ever walked the face of the earth, and this covering up.

And now [Holder] decides that Black Panthers, who carry guns into precincts, should not be prosecuted!

But despite the President saying we are going to move on on interrogation policy [Holder] announces he is going to have a special prosecutor today and appoints one and [President says] “I’m going with it.”

Who is running the show here? For the first time, I have to ask myself, Is Barack Obama really in control here? Either he is disingenuous, which I wish not to believe about the President of the United States, or maybe the question is, Who is really in control here?....

The President said we were going to move on; the country said move on on the interrogation policy. Eric Holder announces he is going to have a special prosecutor today. He’s under pressure from the ACLU, fromMoveon.org-—from many of the very, very most liberal groups in my Party; I consider the most extreme groups in my Party.


42 posted on 08/30/2009 11:25:18 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Thank you for your post...No matter what anyone calls it; by any other name is still Un-American…

After reading Mr. Williams all these years, I believe he’s one of the good guys, always well thought-out and on point.


43 posted on 08/30/2009 1:41:08 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: thouworm

Thank you for your post…No matter what anyone calls it; by any other name is still Un-American…

… the enemy-within must be exterminated, the problem however is, this enemy has used Government Education to create a class of useful idiots.


44 posted on 08/30/2009 1:46:52 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: thouworm

Thank you for your post…No matter what anyone calls it; by any other name is still Un-American…

… the enemy-within must be exterminated, the problem however is, this enemy has used Government Education to create a class of useful idiots.


45 posted on 08/30/2009 1:47:21 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: thouworm

Thank you for your post…No matter what anyone calls it; by any other name is still Un-American…

… the enemy-within must be exterminated, the problem however is, this enemy has used Government Education to create a class of useful idiots.


46 posted on 08/30/2009 1:47:46 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: thouworm

Thank you for your post…No matter what anyone calls it; by any other name is still Un-American…

… the enemy-within must be exterminated, the problem however is, this enemy has used Government Education to create a class of useful idiots.


47 posted on 08/30/2009 1:48:19 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: thouworm

Do these Commie Morons think we are going to let them get away with this? What a bunch of RETARDS. Ecuse Me! I don’t think so!


48 posted on 08/30/2009 3:05:37 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: ETL; Venturer; ntmxx; screaminsunshine; Fred Nerks; AuntB

Why isn’t HE being investigated!

JOHN CONYERS Jr, Dem MI, is chair of one of the most powerful committees in Congress - House Judiciary Committee

What do they do?
http://judiciary.house.gov/about/welcome.html

Chairman’s Welcome

Welcome to the home page of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on the Judiciary. The committee has broad jurisdiction over measures relating to federal anti-trust law, courts and judges, constitutional issues and amendments, civil rights and liberties, immigration, patents, trademarks and copyrights, interstate compacts, and apportionment of representatives....

Sincerely,
John Conyers, Jr.
Chairman
........................

About the Judiciary Committee

http://judiciary.house.gov/about/about.html

The jurisdiction of the The House Committee on the Judiciary as follows:

#1 The judiciary and judicial proceedings, civil and criminal.
#4 Bankruptcy, mutiny, espionage, and counterfeiting.
#7 Criminal law enforcement.
#19 Subversive activities affecting the internal security of the United States.
.......................

And WHO does John Conyers Jr ENDORSE?

From ETL’s thread (see post #8):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2291371/posts

Endorsers of the [World Can’t Wait] Call to Drive Out the Bush Regime Include:

James Abourezk, Aris Anagnos, Rocky Anderson, Anti-Flag, Edward Asner, Russell Banks, Ed Begley Jr., Harry Belafonte, St. Clair Bourne, Gabriel Byrne, Margaret Cho, Ward Churchill, Paulette Cole, US Rep JOHN CONYERS Jr., John Densmore, Jesse Diaz Jr., Michael Eric Dyson, Steve Earle, Niles Eldredge, Daniel Ellsberg, Eve Ensler, Laura Flanders, Jane Fonda, Martin Garbus, Senator Mike Gravel, Andre Gregory, Sam Hamill, Suheir Hammad, Rev. Jesse L. Jackson Jr., Mumia Abu-Jamal, Rickie Lee Jones, Sarah Jones, Brig. Gen. (Ret) Janis Karpinski, Jonathan Kozol, Rabbi Michael Lerner, US Rep. Cynthia McKinney, Robin Meyers, Mark Crispin Miller, Tom Morello, Viggo Mortensen, John Nichols, US Rep. Major Owens, Grace Paley, Harvey Pekar, Sean Penn, Michelle Phillips, Harold Pinter, Michael Ratner, Mark Ruffalo, US Rep. Bobby Rush, Susan Sarandon, Richard Serra, Jeff Sharlet, Rev. Al Sharpton, Cindy Sheehan, Martin Sheen, Nancy Spero, Gloria Steinem, Lynne Stewart, Serj Tankian, Sunsara Taylor, Studs Terkel, Gore Vidal, Kurt Vonnegut, Alice Walker, Naomi Wallace, US Rep. Maxine Waters, Cornel West, Ann Wright, Howard Zinn, and thousands more who have already joined us.

http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2538&Itemid=2
__________________________________________________________

World Can’t Wait—Drive Out the Bush Regime is a Maoist-revolutionary movement organized by the Revolutionary Communist Party. Scroll down the list that appears (after clicking link) to find the World Can’t Wait organization (rwor.org is the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party):
http://rwor.org/a/rwlink/links.htm
__________________________________________________________

From David Horowitz’s FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: World Can’t Wait (WCW)

*Revolutionary communist movement that stages protests against the Bush administration

*Organizes college and high-school students

*Founded in June 2005 by Charles Clark Kissinger, a longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7213
__________________________________________________________

On Oct 5, 2006, Democrat Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers Jr, the same guy who is leading the ‘investigation’ of the Bush administration, gave a *speech* to the World Can’t Wait—Drive Out the Bush Regime organization, a widely known front for the Revolutionary Communist Party.
http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3801&Itemid=69

Please see ETL’s thread & posts for MUCH MORE (ETL is a fountain of very useful facts & connections):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2291371/posts
...............

SO, who is the Revolutionary Communist Party and what do they advocate? ETL cites their own website.

The RCP calls for the armed overthrow of the U.S. government...

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :

“Create Public Opinion, Seize Power: We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning.

And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.”:

http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm
..............

Did they say they would like to see “a major crack in the system ...that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle.”

“wage a revolutionary ARMED struggle?”

Aren’t they the kind of subversive people the government (and Conyers) is paid to worry about?

What is CONYERS’ job? “#19 Subversive activities affecting the internal security of the United States. “
...................

IS THE FOX GUARDING THE HEN HOUSE?

Is Conyers protecting ACORN (an organization whose underhanded/criminal? deeds are so publicly known that they have become a national joke).

He was for it, then against it, then for it. Should such a confused man be chairing such an important committee as the House Judiciary Committee?

He defended ACORN in October 2008:
Mr. Conyers, who is known for his drive to continue investigating the Bush administration, previously defended ACORN. In October, he condemned an FBI voter fraud investigation targeting the group. He questioned whether it was politically motivated to hamper a voter-registration drive targeting groups likely to support Mr. Obama’s candidacy.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/20/conyers-suggests-probe-of-acorn/

Then on March 19, 2009 John Conyers was enlightened:

John Conyers suggests a Congressional probe “after scathing testimony about the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) during a hearing on various voting issues related to the 2008 presidential election.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/20/conyers-suggests-probe-of-acorn/

Two weeks later, on May 4, Conyers’ neural synapses malfunction and he backs out of ACORN probe saying,

“Based on my review of the information regarding the complaints against ACORN, I have concluded that a hearing on this matter appears UNWARRANTED at this time.”

Meanwhile, in Nevada, just HOURS BEFORE Conyers’ made his “hearings unwarranted” statement-—

his fellow Democrats in Nevada, Secretary of State Ross Miller and Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto dropped a bombshell.

ACORN and two former senior ACORN employees in the state, they announced, had been charged with a total of 39 felony counts related to voter registrations.
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/05/07/conyers-kills-acorn-probe
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Conyers said WHAT?

Questioned by the Washington Times about his decision to go back on his decision, he said, “”The powers that be decided against it,”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/26/conyers-backs-off-probe-of-acorn-practices/?feat=home_headlines

The “powers that be decided against it”? Is he hearing voices? Schizophrenic? HE was the “power that be” that decided ACORN should be investigated!
................

Conyers chickens out of ACORN probe
By Michelle Malkin • May 8, 2009 05:15 AM
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/08/conyers-chickens-out-of-acorn-probe/

[On May 4, 2009] Democrat Rep. John Conyers backs down from his pledge to investigate ACORN fraud: Bok, bok, bok.

Matthew Vadum zeroes in on the right question: What happened in a mere two weeks to change Conyers’ mind? Did he get a call from friends of ACORN in high places? Did he get something else? Why drop the call for a congressional probe in the very same week that ACORN criminal charges have been filed in Nevada and Pennsylvania?

What gives? Or who gives?
***
Related ACORN news: $53 million taxpayer funds for ACORN since 1994 and now the group is eligible for up to $8 BILLION more, according to Kevin Mooney at the Examiner.
...............

Is the fox guarding the hen house? The investigator needs to be investigated. Is this just the tip of the iceberg?


49 posted on 08/30/2009 3:21:32 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

I would say because of Republicans like John McCain. A bunch of Pussies.


50 posted on 08/30/2009 3:51:31 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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