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Video: interview of John Farrar, Chappaquiddick diver
youtube ^ | 08/30/09 | raccoonradio

Posted on 08/29/2009 9:19:07 PM PDT by raccoonradio

Click on link to watch; actually mostly audio. From 1994, Howie Carr, then with WHDH AM 850 talks with John Farrar who discovered Mary Jo Kopechne's body. He was pressured not to talk about his discoveries.

excerpt: Howie Carr: John let me just get this straight..your belief is that while Ted Kennedy was walking past all these houses back towards the "party house" where we're broadcasting from now, Mary Jo was still alive.

Farrar: Uh, that is correct.

Carr: And she would have been alive probably for about an hour, do you think.

Farrar: I think that's most reasonable--an hour if not longer, that's correct.

Carr: How fast do you think the car was going when it hit the water?

Farrar: That has been proved by several different engineers--one on Chappaquiddick, the Registrar of Motor Vehicles, uh, and others to be between 35 and 45, 35 and 40 miles an hour. However the court only accepted 20 miles an hour and destroyed the evidence which the Registrar of Motor Vehicles gave to the court stenographer to, so that they would not have to come out with an indictment of manslaughter.

Carr: So the court accepted that he was going 20 miles an hour even though all the evidence, even by the Registry of Motor Vehicles, which was controlled by a sympathetic Democrat, Richard McLaughlin indicated he was going between 35 to 45 miles an hour

Farrar: ...he finally was bullied into putting down 20 miles an hour...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chappaquiddick; howiecarr; johnfarrar; maryjo; tedkennedy

1 posted on 08/29/2009 9:19:08 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miAyUKStliM


2 posted on 08/29/2009 9:25:51 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

How’s the joke working for you now, Ted?


3 posted on 08/29/2009 9:29:03 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: raccoonradio

Thank you for this post. I’ve never heard this before.


4 posted on 08/29/2009 9:29:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: raccoonradio

His taxes were audited three times in one year after he started to speak out about what he saw.

Indications were that Mary Jo suffocated. Could have been saved...

And people started settling on the island after the whole thing made it “a household world”. Wow, Ted crashing Rose’s car was good for the real estate business!


5 posted on 08/29/2009 9:32:34 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: FlingWingFlyer

you’re welcome—actually it’s been on Howie Carr’s site Fatboy.cc for awhile....


6 posted on 08/29/2009 9:33:10 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
...kinda warmer in your (final) repose, swimmer?
what bottle of scotch where your at.....only sulfur.

7 posted on 08/29/2009 9:33:48 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I would urge you and all to look at Leo Damore’s book. My copy is from 1988.

It’s titled Senatorial Privilege.


8 posted on 08/29/2009 9:34:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: raccoonradio

bump


9 posted on 08/29/2009 9:34:57 PM PDT by Roberts
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To: raccoonradio

bump


10 posted on 08/29/2009 9:34:57 PM PDT by Roberts
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To: raccoonradio

Suffocated? I think you mean drowned. How did she suffocate? In water?


11 posted on 08/29/2009 9:35:58 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: Jet Jaguar

Will do. Thanks.


12 posted on 08/29/2009 9:36:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: sissyjane

thought her air ran out...the water level kept rising up eventually I think but I thought I heard the cause of death was actually suffocation. Who knows, maybe was drowning but the D.A. (acc. to Wikipedia) left some doubt:

>>citing blood found on Kopechne’s skirt and in her mouth and nose “which may or may not be consistent with death by drowning”.


13 posted on 08/29/2009 9:41:26 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: sissyjane

She moved herself to an area of the car where there was an air pocket and remained alive until there was no more air to breath. There is a diagram of it on that fatboy site.


14 posted on 08/29/2009 9:41:51 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: sissyjane

She suffocated. She swam or moved to the back of the car. There was an air pocket there. She used up that oxygen and died.


15 posted on 08/29/2009 9:42:08 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

re-read it a few months ago...a copy was left in the “reading room” at work.

Damore, it’s said, couldn’t find work after his book was published...shunned. When Howie Carr interviewed him awhile back he was in dire financial straits—Howie was going to give him $100 or something and Damore was so desperate he asked for it right away so Howie gave him a personal check and then got the radio station to re-imburse him. Damore
later killed himself (all acc. to Howie Carr show)


16 posted on 08/29/2009 9:43:14 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: sissyjane
She had an air pocket in the car. She kept her head in the pocket, which kept getting smaller, until the oxygen content ran out. If they had not bullied Mary Joe's parents into not having an autopsy there may have been some other interesting items found. I, personally, believe she was drugged, other wise she could have gotten out of the car.

Ask yourself this:

The car goes off the bridge, the Whale gets out, but he doesn't pull Mary Joe out nor does she swim out on her own. Why? Why did she stay in a car that was in only 7 feet of water with the air running out if she was wide awake and able to function?

I believed then, and I believe now, she was deliberately murdered by Kennedy. No proof, but plenty of circumstantial evidence and the cover up alone should have had many people serving jail sentences over her death.

Her Parents are probably roasting in he** right along with Ted for allowing him to buy them off.

17 posted on 08/29/2009 9:44:20 PM PDT by calex59
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To: raccoonradio

>> Leo Damore committed suicide in October 1995.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAdamore.htm


18 posted on 08/29/2009 9:44:56 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: sissyjane

There was an air pocket with enough oxygen for about an hour. After she exhausted the supply she suffocated. There was also evidence she clawed the upholstery during this period. The terror must have been unbearable.


19 posted on 08/29/2009 9:45:32 PM PDT by bleach (Wake me in 2012)
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To: sissyjane
Air.
She might have run out of oxygen, quit breating with no water in her lungs.
20 posted on 08/29/2009 9:45:33 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Jet Jaguar; Canedawg

Indeed. That’s the speculation, even though the official cause of death was said to be drowning.

http://www.fatboy.cc

Howie Carr’s Ted K site, incl bits on Chappaquiddick like the drawings that were mentioned.


21 posted on 08/29/2009 9:46:00 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Some of the Chappaquiddick stuff may have been taken off the Fatboy site but this was posted on another thread and I think came from that site


22 posted on 08/29/2009 9:55:27 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

as cradle_of_freedom posted in a sep. thread:

>>Mary Jo did not drown, instead she died of asphyxia. Her head was in an air bubble so there was some time for her to have been rescued, if Kennedy had called the police right away. We will never know if she could have been saved, but it is apparent that she was not given every opportunity possible to save her life.


23 posted on 08/29/2009 9:58:26 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: calex59
How does swimmer get out????? Has anyone ever looked into that? Did he open a door, a window & then reclose it so Mary Jo could not get out???

How does one open a door against water pressure & then reclose it? I doubt he was in the car when it went off the bridge, he probably just waded in & got wet to make it look like he was! MURDER!

24 posted on 08/29/2009 10:12:47 PM PDT by blondee123 (Welcome to Communism under B. Hussein OBAMA!)
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To: raccoonradio

Just wish to point out whether or not she survived for a while, Kennedy had no way of knowing, so his decision to go home and to tell his cousin to go home without calling the police, was criminal and immoral. One can only assume Kennedy was drunk and that’s why he wanted to go home and walk into police headquarters the next day and calmy announce there was a dead girl in his sunken car.

Facinating isn’t it that Teddy got himself out and to the surface safely.

I recall his tv speech after this, in which he claimed to have dived twice in attempts to rescue her. Yet he and his cousin then left with no attempt to get her help.

In fact, Teddy told his cousin to go back to the party and keep his mouth shut so as not to upset anyone, then Teddy claims he dove in the water and disappeared in the dark and went home. So we are to believe the cousin saw Senator Kennedy dive in and disappear into the water, and went back and told no one, even though at that point both Mary Jo and Teddy might have been dead for all he knew.

Sure, it all makes sense.


25 posted on 08/29/2009 10:15:52 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: Williams
One can only assume Kennedy was drunk and that’s why he wanted to go home and walk into police headquarters the next day and calmy announce there was a dead girl in his sunken car.

When he went into the police station, there was no dead girl in the car.

26 posted on 08/29/2009 10:17:38 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: calex59

she must have been pregnant


27 posted on 08/29/2009 10:20:11 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Thank you for this post. I’ve never heard this before.

Even when this happened the MSM treated it as though Teddy was a victim.

28 posted on 08/29/2009 10:25:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (CT Scan in Canada? Vet clinics can get a dog in next day. People? Waitinglist is a month.STOSSEL)
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To: sissyjane
She was breathing an air bubble in the back of the sunken car. If you drown, there is water in your lungs...If you suffocate, your dead before you can draw a breath...
29 posted on 08/29/2009 10:39:30 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Jet Jaguar
Read it, good book, I’m still pissed off. He got away with neg/hom, and not being a lawyer who knows what charges his actions deserved after he surfaced the waters of Poucha Pond
30 posted on 08/29/2009 10:42:32 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (f)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Old Brimstone brand?


31 posted on 08/29/2009 10:42:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: blondee123

Possible. If it was an accident like he said, he wouldn’t have had time to get out till the car had gone in, and it looks like when it left the bridge it flipped and went in upside-down. Wonder if they had a little argument and Ted lost his boozy temper?


32 posted on 08/29/2009 10:48:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: blondee123

He probably drugged and then raped her. The Kennedy’s have a pattern of behavior there.


33 posted on 08/29/2009 11:45:33 PM PDT by eldoradude (Let's water the tree of liberty with THEIR blood...)
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To: All

T’is odd, I do not recall seeing 12,000 photos of Mary Jo as a young child or litle girl on Daddy’s knee on TV when she was buried. Teddy was photographed more I’d suppose.


34 posted on 08/30/2009 1:14:52 AM PDT by poetknowit
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To: raccoonradio

An air pocket would remain in the car even if she breathed whatever usable oxygen was there before it ran out. The oxygen (air) would be replaced with the CO2 she exhaled.


35 posted on 08/30/2009 2:58:46 AM PDT by 101voodoo (OBAMA- THE OPIATE FOR THE DUMB ASSES)
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To: blondee123

excellent question — the story makes no sense — if he opened the door the car would have beenfilled with water right away.


36 posted on 08/30/2009 8:12:23 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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