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KENNEDY'S FREE PASS WITH WOMEN: WHY DID SO MANY DISMISS HIS CRIMES?
NY Post ^ | August 30, 2009 | MAUREEN CALLAHAN

Posted on 08/30/2009 3:25:22 AM PDT by Scanian

In all the obits published and specials aired this week, Chappaquiddick gets a few paragraphs, a few minutes, a tidy recapping of the events of July 19, 1969: The married Ted Kennedy, driving late at night with young campaign aide Mary Jo Kopechne, pitches off a bridge and into the water below. He escapes; she drowns. He does not report the accident for 10 hours. He pleads guilty and gets a suspended sentence, two months in jail.

In most of these narratives, Chappaquiddick is told as Ted's tragedy, the thing that kept him from ever becoming president. And in these narratives, he is chastened, goes on to make amends through a life of public service, advocating for the disadvantaged and the downtrodden -- and, especially, women. No one's perfect, right?

But how is it that so many women unabashedly revere Kennedy today? The particulars of Chappaquiddick are especially gory; his behavior after the accident approaches the amoral. Once he broke free and swam to the surface, Kennedy said that he dove back down seven or eight times to rescue Kopechne. Failing, he swam back to shore and checked back into his hotel, and a short time later lodged a noise complaint with the desk clerk. The people in the room next to his were partying and it was interfering with his sleep. Then he asked the desk clerk for the time.

According to the Aug. 4, 1969 edition of Newsweek, that clerk, Russell E. Peachey, told Kennedy it was 2:25 a.m., then asked, "Is there anything else I can do for you?"

"No, thank you," Kennedy replied.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chappaquiddick; feminists; kennedyscheme; philandering; shesuffocates; tedkennedy; waitresssandwich
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1 posted on 08/30/2009 3:25:23 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

They dismissed Clinton’s too. These “feminists” think that a right to kill their own babies is more important than expecting a man to treat a woman with common decency.


2 posted on 08/30/2009 3:31:13 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (http://koreanforniancooking.blogspot.com/)
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To: Scanian

A. Money talks.


3 posted on 08/30/2009 3:32:13 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Tamar1973

You’re absolutely right. Abortion is the key to understanding a lot of the strange positions and policies of the left.


4 posted on 08/30/2009 3:33:25 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Tamar1973; Scanian
[Gloria Feldt said:] "But I don't know that you can reconcile it -- when it's in a group's best interest that said person stays in that chair, how do you weigh that moral equation? I wish it were simpler than that."

If your "group's" champion treats all women as sluts, maybe that suggests that your group's agenda really isn't good for women (unless they're sluts).

5 posted on 08/30/2009 3:35:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Much of political rhetoric serves as a substitute for reasoning." ~Thomas Sowell)
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To: Scanian

I believe you’re on to something here: expediency is the name of the game.

That he called the front desk to complain and ask the time was all a part of his ‘plan A’ to establish some sort of alibi. Yeah, like he was really going to try to sleep.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 3:38:16 AM PDT by smartymarty (When you know why you believe what you believe, leadership is inevitable.)
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To: Tax-chick

I wouldn’t even treat a slut that bad! Kennedy had to be some kind of woman-hater in his heart.


7 posted on 08/30/2009 3:40:54 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

No brainer.

Abortion.

Next question?


8 posted on 08/30/2009 3:43:41 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: Scanian

This is the stuff that should have been read at the wake on Friday, boy would that have made for good TV.


9 posted on 08/30/2009 3:45:58 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( MARSOC DAD)
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To: Ronin

OK, question: given that Kennedy was such an abortion-monger, how could the Catholic Church possibly justify giving him a Catholic burial? Yes, I’m sure money is part of it. But I have heard no rationalization for the move.

In burying Ted, the Church seemed to be giving its stamp of approval to a life that was an embarassment to Catholics.


10 posted on 08/30/2009 3:57:20 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

“I wish it were simpler than that.” {said Gloria Felt of Planned Parenthood]

It IS simpler than that, Gloria, and you know it. Ted Kennedy was a Democrat, that is all you need to know.

The dems NEVER throw their own under the bus, no matter how much they deserve to be there. The media never hounds the dems out of office, not matter how much they deserve to go.

I’d draw the line at supporting a unrepentent killer like Teddy the K. But short of that I wonder if our own side should not adopt this approach.


11 posted on 08/30/2009 3:58:25 AM PDT by jocon307 ( We're dealing with COMMUNISTS here, folks!)
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To: Scanian

Something that I will say about Ted that I did not know, he was a college football star, that means that besides wealth and power he was also a manly man.

When you have a guy that pro football tried to draft, that is also rich, a Kennedy, and a powerful man that is even a military vet, that had a enough charisma to fill his own shoes for 50 years, did you really think that women may not like him?


12 posted on 08/30/2009 3:59:10 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: jocon307
It IS simpler than that, Gloria, and you know it. Ted Kennedy was a Democrat, that is all you need to know.

That reminds me. Ted Kennedy was also a celebrity with a sympathetic press, women did not have a chance.

13 posted on 08/30/2009 4:01:24 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Scanian
how could the Catholic Church possibly justify giving him a Catholic burial?

Correction: how could the Archdiocese of Boston possibly justify giving him a Catholic burial?

99.82% of the Church exists outside the cesspool known as the Archdiocese of Boston. If you're going to blame the entire Church for that circus in Boston then you're the one I'm blaming for the election of Obowma.

14 posted on 08/30/2009 4:05:06 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Scanian

That’s something I wonder about myself. However, since I am not a Catholic, I can’t answer the question.


15 posted on 08/30/2009 4:06:05 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: Scanian
The married Ted Kennedy, driving late at night with young campaign aide Mary Jo Kopechne, pitches off a bridge and into the water below. He escapes; she drowns.

Actually she suffocated and supposedly took hours for her to do that. Had he gone to a nearby house and called, the diver who retrieved her body claimed she could have been saved.

16 posted on 08/30/2009 4:09:08 AM PDT by BigLittle
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To: Scanian
But how is it that so many women unabashedly revere Kennedy today?

I am a woman so I can and will explain it as I see it.

Women are stupid. They love to play the victim. They don't take responsibility for their behavior (victim is more romantic, I guess). Some cry rape... when in fact it's morning after regrets because the bozo they did the deed with doesn't have any intention of a continuing relationship. And, the women should not send signals they cannot back up with action. Mom never told them that an invitation to the guy's apartment normally means the guy is asking for sex. (My daughter has never been a victim)

So, they get an abortion if they make a mistake. Then, they most likely will get breast cancer (early term abortion documented in 1986 - AMA) or cervical cancer because of their promiscuity.

Bottom line most women do not have any common sense as evidenced by liberal women.

17 posted on 08/30/2009 4:11:46 AM PDT by xtinct (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Since you are a Catholic it would sure be nice if you would contribute an insiders view rather than not contributing anything useful, we are conservative political people trying to analyze public events.


18 posted on 08/30/2009 4:12:30 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Scanian
Kennedy had to be some kind of woman-hater in his heart.

I agree.

19 posted on 08/30/2009 4:33:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Much of political rhetoric serves as a substitute for reasoning." ~Thomas Sowell)
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To: Scanian

Scanian, it is not known whether Kennedy made a death-bed confession which involved TRUE repentance, and since Confession binds the priest to total privacy as to what took place in the Confession, the church has no way to know if a Catholic burial should be denied.

I should add that the priest is merely a representative of God in the confessional, and only God knows if the repentant is truthful. Therefor, the absolution given by the priest is always conditional on God’s knowledge of the sinner’s sincerity. We’ll just have to wait until the final judgment to find out. In the meantime, the church gives the benefit of the doubt to the deceased.


20 posted on 08/30/2009 4:37:21 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: Recon Dad

This is the stuff that should have been read at the wake on Friday. Below is Kennedy’s real legacy.

Teddy Kennedy:

1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him.

2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops! The man can’t count to four! His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea , where a war was raging. No preferential treatment for him! (like he charged that President Bush received).

3. Kennedy was assigned to Paris , never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged. Imagine a person of his “education” NEVER advancing past the rank of Private!

4. While attending law school at the University of Virginia, he was cited for reckless driving four times, including once when he was clocked driving 90 miles per hour in a residential neighborhood with his headlights off after dark. Yet his Virginia driver’s license was never revoked. Coincidentally, he passed the bar exam in 1959. Amazing!

5. In 1964, he was seriously injured in a plane crash and hospitalized for several months. Test results done by the hospital at the time he was admitted had shown he was legally intoxicated. The results of those tests remained a “state secret” until in the 1980’s when the report was unsealed Didn’t hear about that from the unbiased media, did we?

6. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts . At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur’s keys to his Oldsmobile limousine and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guardrail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and into Poucha Pond.

7. He swam to shore and walked back to the party passing several houses and a fire station. Two friends then returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew - that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying Kopechne had

scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car. The Kennedy family began “calling in favors”, ensuring that any inquiry would be contained Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family before an autopsy could be conducted.

Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne and he didn’t call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in

hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident Kennedy’s “political enemies” have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick.

He pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCEOF TWO MONTHS. Kopechne’s family received a small payout from the Kennedy’s insurance policy and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy’s family paid their attorney’s bills.... a “token of friendship”?

8. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. He authored or argued for legislation that ensured a variety of civil rights, increased the minimum wage in 1981, made access to health care easier for the indigent, funded Meals on Wheels for fixed-income seniors, and is widely held as the “standard-bearer for liberalism”. In his very first Senate roll he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries..

9. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of an increase in immigration up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court nominees, as if he was the standard bearer for the nation. What a pompous ass!

10. He is known around Washington as a public drunk, loud, boisterous, and very disrespectful to ladies. JERK is a better description than “great American”. “A blonde in every pond” is his motto.

11. In anticipation of his demise, his latest antic is to give the governor of Massachusetts the power to appoint his replacement to the Senate. Ironically, it was he who lead the successful movement to deny the Governor that power five years ago when Senator John Kerry was a presidential candidate and Mitt Romney was Governor....Yep,

He’s all about fair play!

Let’s not allow the spin doctors to make this jerk a hero — how quickly the American public forgets what his real legacy is.

A LOT of the younger people don’t have a clue about all of this, and us older ones tend to forget things that happened so many years ago. I HAVEN’T!

The above was received in an email that had no credits as to it’s author. Whomever it was did a yeoman’s job.


21 posted on 08/30/2009 4:47:00 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Scanian

Because he whole-heartedly endorsed the libs’ most important sacrament: ABORTION

And he’s getting a Catholic funeral because they don’t have enough guts to tell the Kennedys to go to hell (where Teddy is probably bunking down)
I rest my case.


22 posted on 08/30/2009 4:48:16 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Scanian

A former girlfriend went to work in Fat Boy’s Boston office as a college intern about 30 years ago.

On her first day, one of the first things they told her was “Don’t ever get into the elevator alone with the Senator. Always have an escort.”

It was not a joke, it was an instruction. Then in his late-40’s, Swimmer was a known sexual predator, even with his own young employees.

And so she didn’t.


23 posted on 08/30/2009 4:50:18 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Scanian

Kill them when they’re unborn, kill them when they’re born’ kill them when they’re old. Push “#!0” for the Democrat Party.


24 posted on 08/30/2009 4:52:58 AM PDT by ExiledChicagoan (I see a red door and I want it painted black. But that's just me.)
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To: Scanian

there was a thread on here, where a priest has given a sermon on WHY it was wrong to bury kennedy with a Catholic funeral...among other things he was never given an annullment from his first wife.


25 posted on 08/30/2009 4:54:05 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

99.82% of the Church exists outside the cesspool known as the Archdiocese of Boston
***************

I’ll take your archdiocese, match it and call you with the Archdiocese of Chicago. All in.


26 posted on 08/30/2009 4:55:08 AM PDT by ExiledChicagoan (I see a red door and I want it painted black. But that's just me.)
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To: ansel12

e was a college football star, that means that besides wealth and power he was also a manly man.
*****

How gay.


27 posted on 08/30/2009 4:56:05 AM PDT by ExiledChicagoan (I see a red door and I want it painted black. But that's just me.)
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To: ansel12

You are contributing nothing but over the top emoting and generalizing; traits of both leftists and morons.


28 posted on 08/30/2009 5:00:10 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: ExiledChicagoan

As cutesy as you may find it, when a Harvard guy plays tough football positions and the pros try to draft him then we can assume that he is pretty much a fit, tough guy.

That alone is a big draw to women, now start adding to the list of star athlete, rich-yes, educated-yes, Kennedy-yes, celebrity-yes, powerful-yes, at what point was he supposed to not be good with women?


29 posted on 08/30/2009 5:04:12 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Scanian

But how many Catholics truly were embarrassed by Ted Kennedy. Seemingly none of the Irish Catholics in Massachusetts were. The Kennedy family proved to be a bad advertisement for Roman Catholicism given the fact that they lived unabashedly like heathens. It is interesting that the Pope remained steadfast in his opposition to laud Kennedy upon his death, a stance not seemingly picked up by Kennedy’s Catholic constituents.


30 posted on 08/30/2009 5:04:52 AM PDT by sueuprising
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To: ExiledChicagoan

As a Chicagoan you’re the one responsible for the Daley machine, Obowma, Jesse Jackson Jr., Blagojevich, Durbin and Oprah.


31 posted on 08/30/2009 5:05:43 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I see that you still have nothing to add, well, keep working at it.


32 posted on 08/30/2009 5:05:57 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Scanian

Isn’t it chilling that abortion is so integral to the understanding of liberal policies? However, is it really about choice or about the desire for people to have promiscuous sex without consequence? Given the fact that abortion became an issue in the “swinging ‘sixties” and seventies, it seems coincidental to the sexual liberties embraced at that time primarily with college students. Now that abortion is a constitutional right, the next thing on the ‘sixties leftist agenda is gay marriage. One immoral, anti Christian thing after another.


33 posted on 08/30/2009 5:10:55 AM PDT by sueuprising
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To: Scanian
WHY DID SO MANY DISMISS HIS CRIMES?

Simple answer. Toeing the leftist line du jour trumps all else.

34 posted on 08/30/2009 5:21:38 AM PDT by fso301
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To: sueuprising
Isn’t it chilling that abortion is so integral to the understanding of liberal policies? However, is it really about choice or about the desire for people to have promiscuous sex without consequence? Given the fact that abortion became an issue in the “swinging ‘sixties” and seventies, it seems coincidental to the sexual liberties embraced at that time primarily with college students

The Birth control pill was introduced to American women in 1965, ROEvWADE was 1974.

By the way Catholics were so far left during the sixties that their vote in the three elections was 82% democrat, 79% democrat and 56% democrat. That is even worse than Obama's 54% from them .

35 posted on 08/30/2009 5:23:29 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: sueuprising

When you consider what some of the Left’s core constituencies are—homosexuals, atheists, loose-livers of every kind—it comes as no surprise that they make one attack on Judeo-Christian values after another.

The Left is amoral, if not immoral, and we shouldn’t expect them to stop until America has been officially turned into one, big Sodom and Gomorrah.


36 posted on 08/30/2009 5:25:39 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

His actions right after that accident at Chappaquiddick say more than anything about the nature of the man and he was evil. The press shows their own nature in the fact they have deified this POS this whole week and know exactly what Chappaquiddick was about and what it reveals and why they try to cover it up for their boy. And really it is nothing but an extension of the Demonrat party and an example of the lengths they will go for power. There are no excuses for his actions whatsoever.


37 posted on 08/30/2009 5:29:13 AM PDT by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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To: Scanian

The Leftwing practical application of “free love” and “women’s equality” is expressed better in Lenin’s formulation a century ago. He called the result of those policies a “community of women” which meant universal male access to women for sex. That is still how Left men and even some of the women see it.


38 posted on 08/30/2009 5:29:50 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Scanian

Men like that do not hate women. They simply do not ascribe anything like intelligence or sensibility to women. They love women the way they love their poodles and yorkies.


39 posted on 08/30/2009 5:32:26 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: kitkat

Of course, judgment of the soul is God’s call. Kennedy may very well have “seen the light” at the last moment.

It seems likely, however, that the Senator, who knew months ago that he was gravely ill, would not have waited until he was at death’s doorstep to repent. And if he did, in fact, feel remorse for his dissolute life during his rather long illness, he made no public statement of repentance and certainly did not express sorrow for supporting abortion in such a militant way throughout his career.


40 posted on 08/30/2009 5:35:19 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

The Catholic Church does not justify giving him a Catholic funeral. Local Catholic functionaries(including the Cardinal) justify anything at all for the Rightful King. Then again, we do not know the state of his soul the moment before death. He may well have sincerely repented of all his Cardinal Sins in that last moment. That faint possibility certainly does not justify a eulogy that pretends that he is already in Heaven. A funeral mass should not contain such a eulogy from a priest, even for someone who has led an apparently saintly life because we really do not know the state of the deceased’s soul at the moment of death. A funeral mass should be a funeral mass with no praise or excoriation of the dead.


41 posted on 08/30/2009 5:41:10 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Scanian
According to the Aug. 4, 1969 edition of Newsweek, that clerk, Russell E. Peachey, told Kennedy it was 2:25 a.m., then asked, "Is there anything else I can do for you?" "No, thank you," Kennedy replied.

I knew it ws bad but not this bad.
42 posted on 08/30/2009 5:44:01 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: xtinct

Women are stupid. They go for the “bad” boy and think they can change him.

We rule from our hearts instead of our heads too often.Just look at the women who write or worse marry men in prison for murder.

Just like people who vote on emotion not logic.


43 posted on 08/30/2009 5:50:02 AM PDT by surelyclintonsbaddream (show us your birth certificate---millions of babies can't show us theirs)
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To: arthurus

Even back in Cardinal Cushing’s day I thought that Boston Catholicism was about as saintly as Boston politics.

I see nothing at all has changed.


44 posted on 08/30/2009 5:51:39 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: arthurus

Then perhaps the correct term is that they DESPISE women.


45 posted on 08/30/2009 5:53:20 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Very easy answer.... It’s about “FEELINGS” and not facts or logic...


46 posted on 08/30/2009 6:47:53 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Scanian; All
I'd love to see Glenn Beck do a special on Chappaquiddick sometime in the near future. The democrats would go nuts!
47 posted on 08/30/2009 6:51:08 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: Scanian

“lodged a noise complaint with the desk clerk. The people in the room next to his were partying and it was interfering with his sleep. Then he asked the desk clerk for the time.”

I would bet that at THAT particular time he was planning to pretend he had loaned his car to Mary Jo....


48 posted on 08/30/2009 6:52:11 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: kitkat
Scanian, it is not known whether Kennedy made a death-bed confession which involved TRUE repentance, and since Confession binds the priest to total privacy as to what took place in the Confession, the church has no way to know if a Catholic burial should be denied.

This is true. However, unless the person in question makes a public repudiation of his wrongs, there can be no public funeral Mass. And under no circumstances should a radical leftist Muslim be invited to give a "eulogy" in a Catholic basilica at a funeral Mass for this person, either.

As a Catholic I didn't take any offense in what took place yesterday. Remember -- this was the same Archdiocese of Boston that made a habit out of sheltering sexual predators among its clergy for decades. That entire place has effectively written itself off as far as I'm concerned.

49 posted on 08/30/2009 6:54:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Tax-chick
I think it's more like Teddy thought that, as royalty, as an elitist Kennedy, women were there for his use and disposal as he saw fit. Kinda like the way Henry VIII looked at women.
50 posted on 08/30/2009 7:04:07 AM PDT by Zman516 (socialists & muslims -- satan's useful idiots.)
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