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Well, he did say that he wanted to apply all of the "lessons" Ted Kennedy had taught him... |
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Posted on 08/30/2009 10:46:59 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
Says Abuse of Detainees Helped al Qaeda Recruit Terrorists, But Opposes Investigation into "Enhanced" Interrogations.
BY MICHELLE LEVI
Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) said he thinks it is a "serious mistake" for the administration to focus on the past when investigating the interrogation techniques of the CIA under President Bush on "Face the Nation" Sunday. "For us now to go back, I think, would be a serious mistake.
"I believe that the president was right when he said we ought to go forward and not back. I worry about the morale and effectiveness of the CIA. I worry about this thing getting out of control," the Arizona senator said.
On "Fox News Sunday," former Vice Former Vice President Dick Cheney said that the president's decision to appoint a special prosecutor to review the Bush administration's interrogation strategies "offended the hell" out of him.
McCain admitted that he was "radically opposed" to the interrogation techniques of the former administration and said, "I think it harmed us."
Host Bob Schieffer asked if the senator agreed with Vice President Cheney that the interrogations produced helpful information for the United States in fighting terrorism.
"I think these interrogations once publicized helped al-Qaeda recruit. I got that from an al Qaeda operative in a prison camp in Iraq," McCain said. "I think the ability to work with our allies was harmed."
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
“I think the interrogations were in violation of the Geneva Conventions and the convention against torture that we ratified under President Reagan,” McCain told CBS’ Bob Schieffer Sunday.
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/30/mccain-torture-violated-law/
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Well, he did say that he wanted to apply all of the "lessons" Ted Kennedy had taught him... |
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STFU Juan!
POW status is an honor. Pirates and criminals, out of uniform, deliberately violating international law, do NOT deserve POW status.
Therefore, the Geneva Conventions barely apply here, if at all!
Poor Cindy!
McCain: The “Hanoi Candidate”, now fully activated.
McLoser is responsible for this so called probe. Siding with the enemy on torture from the beginning.
Wish I had my vote back. Of course I voted for Palin.
Meghan’s Dad is irrelevant.
They have no uniform. They are not part of any nation’s armed forces, let alone another signatory to the Geneva Convention. They are not POW’s. They are not protected by the Geneva Convention. End of story.
street
me too , I want my vote back. but NOT to vote for barry.
McCain says he “ got it from an prisoner in Iraq that our EIT recruited more al Q. Well THAT prisoner got it from Al Jazeera who got it from Durbin. Murtha Reid or Piglosi.
Good lord mccain needs to stfu
We need to either focus on a new party or vote the RINOS out
they are as bad as the enemy
The specific articles of the Geneva convention recognizing rights for "non-uniformed" combatants -- i.e. terrorists -- are contained in the 1977 Protocol II of the Geneva Convention. That Protocol was not signed by Reagan, but by Jimmy Carter. However, it has never been ratified by the Senate and is therefore not part of US Law.
Reagan was under very heavy international pressure to re-sign and bring the ratification vote. He refused to do so.
It is interesting that McCain thinks these techniques damaged our international standing and violated the Protocol II of the convention; there are accounts that several signators (one of them is Great Britain) use far more strenuous techniques on foreign prisoners than we do. The Muslim countries who accept Renditions are, I believe, all signers of the Protocol. So McCain is blaming the US for being better followers of a treaty that we did not even sign than many of our allies and cooperators are.
For anyone who thinks McCain has changed, this is more proof. We need to get this menace voted out of the Senate once and for all.
I’ll second that. How can we expect the GOP to save us from the communist when they can’t even save themselves?
Only Sarah and maybe a very few others give me hope.
And while we blow cigar smoke in their faces, conduct mock executions, lie to them, dunk water on their faces he considers that torture.
decapitations, hanging charred bodies of our military from bridges, targeting civilians and hiding within civilians while firing at our Military, has got to be acceptable to him and worthy of Geneva Convention rights.
I knew a few now-deceased POWs from WWII, and I can tell you with certainty what they would have thought, said and done about such treasonous and seditious criticism. McCain is a brainwashed “Hanoi Candidate”, now fully activated, and needs to be in a secure mental institution, not the Senate.
How he and others can call the intensive interrogatiion, USED ONLY ON A HANDFUL OF TOP detainees TORTURE beats me. Discomfort--yes; scary--yes; torture--NO!NO!NO!!!
Torture=physical harm such as beating, maiming, pulling finger nails, starving, --how about decapitating?
Now, about how much I care about these NON-COVERED BY GENEVA, UN-UNIFORMED, CAUGHT ON THE BATTLEFIELD HARMING US OR ALLIES TERRORISTS being grilled with sleep deprivation, water boarding, etc.===I do NOT care at all. I APPROVE methods used. These people are enemies of western civilization, not just the US. What is all the fuss about except for use as a political football to appease the ultra, off the left side of earth leftists.
For the very few cases that exceeded guidelines, I believe they have already been punished.
Lord, how I wish McCain could get a clue as to what world we now reside in.
Jimmie Carter never met a dictator/terrorist he didn't love and approve.
McCain never met a Jimmuh Cartuh Democrat he didn't love and approve.
vaudine
Well then I'd say that makes you a terrorist sympathizer senator.
LLS
What kind of ‘iron teeth’ is in lord McCain’s resolution/legislation regarding torture?
Just shut up, McCain, and worry about your own stupidity.
How dare he compare a terrorist who roams the globe targeting women and children in restaurants, school buses, and marketplaces....to a prisoner of war who wears his country's uniform!
It makes no sense, it takes away an honor from a soldier who bravely wears his country on his sleeve, and gives that honor to a man who hides amongst civilians.
What a selfish man, he trashes Pres Bush/VP Cheney, intell officers, and our troops, ALL FOR GOOD PRESS???????
Have you checked out the photo of Dick Cheney on the MSN.com website (where they show the headlines)? It looks as bad as your picture of “Juan McCain” in your post. Quite a difference from the angelic poses they show of Obama.
McCain is right and that is why we were attacked , in advance, on 9/11.
He's also hollering "Geneva Convention" at us again ~
Can McCain please tell us WHAT COUNTRY AlQaida came from and did they also sign the Geneva Conventions?
And when did they become our ally?
McCain admitted that he was “radically opposed” to the interrogation techniques of the former administration and said, “I think it harmed us.”
I'm almost happy he'll never become president (and hopefully Sarah Palin will).
I think it's the latter. Btw... these terrorists are war criminals and do not fall under the aegis of the Geneva Convention.
Almost?
Gotta part ways with you on that one I am afraid.
I am ecstatic that this nut will never become president.
Of course having the communist in the white House, is bad news for everyone, but that doesn't change the fact that McCain would have made a terrible president. He shouldn't even be in the US Senate.
How many American service men are in terrorists POW camps? Maybe one, all the others were butchered and slaughterd their captors.
Rasmussen Headline on June 05, 2007.
Arizona Poll: 24% Support Immigration Bill, 51% Have Unfavorable Opinion of McCain
The impact is even more noticeable on McCain who is now viewed favorably by just 47% of Arizona voters. Fifty-one percent (51%) have an unfavorable of their state’s Presidential hopeful. Just 15% now have a Very Favorable opinion of McCain while 22% have a Very Unfavorable view.
Note in passing which McCain should know: These prisoners are NOT covered by the Geneva Convention rules. This is why the clown was not elected President. He obviously lacks some basic understanding of events.
Make that 2.
I previously thought it was only PTSD. Now, I think he was brainwashed and reprogrammed to be the Sleeping” Hanoi Candidate (who has now been activated). MamaB, he is now much worse than simply a Lib/Matxist/ Commie Democrat; he is an infiltrator, a wolf in sheep’s clothing, working against his own country and people. I, too, voted for Palin.
Good. Let’s start a new party. Now, where are we going to get enough votes to win an election?
Parties be damned; vote CONSERVATIVE!
Did you see him at the wake and funeral? He's always positioned near someone he knows TV cameras will focus on. It's a wonder he didn't climb into Ahnold's pocket or Joan's Kennedy's lap.
And just think, stepping right up on the national stage is another nut who's fallen right under his family tree, Miss Megamania McCain. How much more of this can we take?
I just sent my sympathies to my relatives in Tucson.
Leni
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LLS
“Yet more evidence that the GOP really screwed up when it nominated McCain. Someone needs to ask McCain exactly when the Taliban and Al Quaida signed the Geneva Convention and where in the Geneva Convention it approved of hijacking civilian aircraft and flying them into buildings. Where in the Geneva Convention it OKs sawing off the heads of captives and distributing videos of it and where it approves of dragging the mutilated bodies of captives and KIAs through the streets. “
Well stated. The problem is McCain ain’t all there.
McCain is showing serious signs of senility. His ability to reason gets worse by the week.
That’s exactly what I do. I’ve never heard of an actual conservative Democrat. There is no such creature.
McQueeg strikes again. Arizona? Vote this RINO out and vote for Simcox.
STFU McGeezer
Can we appoint a delegation to go see John McLame, tell him to just sit down and STFU???
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