Skip to comments.What would Jesus say about health care?
Posted on 08/30/2009 12:34:44 PM PDT by lowbridge
The work and teaching of Jesus offer important moral guideposts as we discuss how to deliver and pay for health care in America today.
New Testament scholars generally agree that the earliest traditions about Jesus emphasize four interrelated themes: Jesus preached and practiced free healing, free food, open tables, and safe space for marginal people
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But if you want to bring Jesus into the health care debate, then let's have churches run the hospitals and have the Vatican run federal health care.
One thing He did not say was to take something away from someone else if it wasn’t yours and give it to the poor. He was also against over taxation. He did say that as individuals, we should help the poor, but not take from one to give to another. Remember “Thou shalt not steal”??????
If this is an Alinsky tactic to appeal to moral people to support the immoral Obama death care be alert
theres billions in heathcare bill for unions....why do we owe union workers
Originally, churches were considered the logical centers of so much that now springs from secular governmental welfare schemes. And I mean secular. Officials in said government agencies cannot even say “Bless you” to someone who sneezes without getting sued anymore.
Christ's solutions to problems have nothing to do with increased power of the state.
Taxation at best had a limited role, that of supporting a minimal set of legitimate governmental functions, mostly those of keeping civil order.
Wonder if Rick is related to Joseph Lowery who spoke at the One’s inauguration?
Yes, and Jesus could provide all of that without what we consider "natural resources". It would be terrific to be able to feed 5,000 people with five loaves of bread and three fish, but we can't.
When he healed he told those he healed to repent and sin no more.
Our Savior's actions pertained to the spirit and not the flesh. His actions were done to glorify our Creator and not this fleshly world system.
My favorite when it comes to DemocRATS is “Thou shalt not covet.” What “the Rich” have is none of my damn business and I also believe that we should not have a fascist government that is in the business of taking other people’s money and property away from them. It sounds too much like Nazism and communism to me. Communism is nothing but a “progressive” form of slavery.
Even more so democrats need to learn not to COVET. Jesus would not agree with people “using” the system for their own gain. He would detest fraud and people taking money from others just cause they do not want to work at ANY job. He would detest racism, socialism, government bullying and control with taxation with the power of the state to throw you into jail.
Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get [in] back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right. Let all those who do justice and love mercy say Amen! Say Amen! And Amen
You said — One thing He did not say was to take something away from someone else if it wasnt yours and give it to the poor.
Well, Jesus the Messiah of Israel did agree with gleaning, in which a field which belonged to someone was not supposed to be harvested extensively to allow the poor to come in and take what they needed from it, for themselves. If something was dropped or missed in harvesting, the owner (and/or help) was not supposed to go back and “get it” but to let it go for the poor to feed themselves this way.
Besides that, there were taxes which went into the Temple Treasury and was significant. On top of that, there were the various sacrifices, too, which were given to the priests...
I wouldn’t necessarily maintain that Jesus had that particular viewpoint that you’re saying...
A snippet of something from another ministry website...
In the Old Testament, there were two means to help the poor. The first was through the gleaning laws listed in Leviticus 19:9-10 and Deuteronomy 24:19-22. As farmers reaped their crops, they would leave the corners of their fields unharvested, and anything that fell to the ground was left for the poor.
The second method used to help the poor was the tithe. In Leviticus 27:30 we find that the tithe provided funds both for the church and for the poor. The funds were distributed by the priests to those who were truly needy.
In the New Testament, the church also had a role in helping to meet the needs of the poor. In 1 Corinthians 16, Paul talks about a collection that was sent from the churches to the Jerusalem believers. We also find many scriptural admonitions calling for Christians to distribute their resources to others compassionately (2 Cor. 9:7; 1 Tim. 5:9-10; 6:18; James 1:27).
Another thing to keep in mind is that Jesus, the Messiah of Israel is coming back to set up a *one-world government* in which He will be an “absolute ruler” over all the nations and these laws and requirements that He sets up will be followed without fail and He will eliminate all war, hunger, sickness, disease and poverty.... in ruling the Kingdom of God on this earth. That’s the 1,000 year reign of the Messiah of Israel — to take place just before the “final judgment” which takes place at the “Great White Throne Judgment” of Revelation 20...
You’re exactly right. The five loaves and three fishes proved God will provide.
In spite of what the MSM is trying to get us to believe, Obama is NOT God.
When people who are inherently atheistic in their beliefs invoke Jesus to persuade others to their agenda, isn’t it just a *tad* disingenuous?
In a way, it’s like them saying, “I swear to God I’m an atheist!”
Jesus, to them, is nothing more than an argumentative device, which shows the utter contempt with which they hold Christians and Christianity.
So when they do this, say to them, “But how would Karl Marx justify Obamacare?”
I’ve no idea what they would say, but I bet it would be entertaining, if not persuasive.
You said — Christ’s solutions to problems have nothing to do with increased power of the state.
But, that’s a “two-stage” process that Jesus, the Messiah of Israel instituted, in which at the first stage, He was a sacrifice for sins — but — at the second stage — He does *increase the power of the state* — dramatically, in that He becomes the “world ruler” and rules over all the nations of the world with a “rod of iron” ... during which time He clamps down hard on all things that many people take for granted now.
There will not be war, poverty, starvation, disease, sickness (still will have death and sin, though) — throughout His 1,000 year reign over all the globe and all nations, during which time He clamps down hard on any violators of the law that He institutes. This is the 1,000 years just prior to the “final judgment” of the “Great White Throne Judgment” of Revelation 20, at which time (after that) then the “eternal state” comes into being... once again...