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Bill Moyers disses Dems as 'spineless' (And Obama a sellout)
Politico ^ | August 30, 2009 | Patrick Gavin

Posted on 08/30/2009 6:43:24 PM PDT by tlb

PBS's Bill Moyers issued a tough critique of the Democratic Party on Friday night on HBO's "Real Time With Bill Maher."

Moyers said that "too many Democrats have had their spines surgically removed."

"The problem is the Democratic Party," said Moyers. "This is a party that has told its progressives — who are the most outspoken champions of health care reform — to sit down and shut up.

Moyers said that, over the years, the Democratic Party "has become like the Republican party — deeply influenced by corporate money."

"I think Rahm Emanuel understands that the money for Obama's reelection would come primarily from the health industry, the drug industry and Wall Street, and so he is a corporate Democrat"

"There's a fear that Barack Obama will become the Grover Cleveland of this era," said Moyers. Grover Cleveland was a good man, but he became a conservative Democratic president because he didn't fight the interests. ... I would much rather see Barack Obama be Theodore Roosevelt.

"I think if Obama fought, instead of finessed so much, he stood up and declared for what is really the right thing to do ... I think it would change the atmosphere."

Moyers said that conservatives have dominated the debate over health care lately. "In the last few weeks, the right wing has been winning the debate. How [Obama] lost control of the narrative, I don't understand. Well, yes, I do. He didn't find the right metaphors, as you were just saying, and he didn't speak in simple powerful moral language.

"Here's the party that lost and the conservative movement that was discredited over the last eight years .... They're setting the agenda for a Democratic Party that controls the White House, the Senate and the House. Something's wrong in that."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; angrydems; maher; mccainordie; moyers; obama; rahm
He's on the right track but stubbornly refuses to make the ultimate conclusion about the Chicago Machine's stooge frontman and the philosophy of this administration.

And no credit to Sarah for taking control of the debate ?

1 posted on 08/30/2009 6:43:24 PM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb

speaking of tools...was Moyers drunk?


2 posted on 08/30/2009 6:44:45 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: tlb

Now Billy Boy has reason to hate everybody


3 posted on 08/30/2009 6:45:12 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: tlb

He also lies through his teeth and the people are seeing it.


4 posted on 08/30/2009 6:45:46 PM PDT by RC2
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To: tlb

Yep. The libtards are pissed because Zero is not SLAMMING the American people with their agenda.


5 posted on 08/30/2009 6:46:31 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell)
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To: tlb

Moyers is an idiot - the money for Obowma’s reelection is coming from the same place it came last time, from the muslims in the middle east, $50 dollars at a time.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 6:47:16 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: tlb
Bill Moyers?
That egotistical sonofabitch is still alive?
7 posted on 08/30/2009 6:47:57 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: tlb

The only reason the Dems would need a spine like Moyers is to goose-step like him.


8 posted on 08/30/2009 6:48:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: tlb
"The problem is the Democratic Party," said Moyers.

Hold that soundbite. Say no more.
9 posted on 08/30/2009 6:50:19 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: tlb

> Moyers said that “too many Democrats have had their spines surgically removed.”

How about their brains?


10 posted on 08/30/2009 6:50:35 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: tlb; All

It’s ironic, conservatives hate the GOP for becoming too liberal and liberals hate the DNC for not being socialist enough. It’d be nice if we all just abandoned both parties.


11 posted on 08/30/2009 6:51:26 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: tlb

Bill Moyers’ black eyeballs give me the creeps.


12 posted on 08/30/2009 6:51:46 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: tlb
Moyers, Cronkite, Kennedy.

The age of the liberal dinosaurs is ending.

13 posted on 08/30/2009 6:52:22 PM PDT by AU72
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To: rabidralph
Bill Moyers’ black eyeballs give me the creeps.

Yeah. He's a Stepford drunk.

14 posted on 08/30/2009 6:54:32 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: tlb

What is Moyers talking about? Cleveland was an excellent President who refused to give farmers handouts and such. He was probably the last great Democrat.


15 posted on 08/30/2009 6:55:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: tlb

Bill Moyers is a quintessential elitist commie. He cannot accept the notion that the vast majority of Americans want nothing to do with his elitist, egalitarian schemes. He insists that his ideas must be accepted simply on the basis of his superior intellect. Peasants be damned is his motto.

When intellectual superior beings such as himself are in control, then nirvana will be realized, at least for themselves. Everyone else doesn’t count.

Aren’t you happy that your tax dollars are supporting his enlightened way of thinking?


16 posted on 08/30/2009 6:55:33 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: tlb
Moyers has made the fatal mistake that all liberals make. He's doctrinaire on a topic he cares about, but he's off the reservation as far as credibility on one of Left Liberalism's key issues: He was a Homo Hunter in the Johnson Administration**...

WaPo: Moyers tried investigating LBJ aides for homosexuality

Here's the story as it originally appeared in the WaPo.

In any case, he's committed the cardinal sin of Leftist Liberals: he's not liberal enough. But, then, NO ONE can be liberal enough for a liberal.

** I wonder if I can post those words together on FR?

17 posted on 08/30/2009 6:55:38 PM PDT by IncPen (The Liberal's Reward is Self-Disgust)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
If Moyers thinks Obama is insufficiently socialist, he's just not going to ever be happy in America.

Bill: it's time to start getting drunk in Cuba, buddy. The rum is cheap, and it'll really help when you need a hernia operation at one of Fidel's free clinics.

18 posted on 08/30/2009 6:56:16 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“Now Billy Boy has reason to hate everybody’

Well, at least he is eating his own Marxist pals.
That’s a good thing, no?


19 posted on 08/30/2009 6:56:47 PM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: max americana
Here's a joke a friend of mine sent me.

A man walked into a very high-tech bar. As he sat down on a stool he noticed that the bartender was a robot. The robot clicked to attention and asked, "Sir, what will you have?"

The man thought a moment then replied, "A martini please."

The robot clicked a couple of times and mixed the best martini the man had ever had.

The robot then asked, "Sir, what is your IQ?"

The man answered "oh, about 164."

The robot then proceeded to discuss the 'theory of relativity', 'inter-steller space travel', 'the latest medical break throughs', etc.......

The man was most impressed. He left the bar but thought he would try a different tack. He returned and took a seat. Again the robot clicked and asked what he would have? "A Martini please."

Again it was superb.. The robot again asked "what is your IQ sir?"

This time the man answered, "Oh about 100".

So the robot started discussing Nascar racing, the latest basketball scores, and what to expect the Dodgers to do this weekend.

The guy had to try it one more time. So he left, returned and took a stool.... Again a martini, and the question, "What is your IQ?"??

This time the man drawled out "Uh..... bout 50".

The robot clicked then leaned close and very slowly asked,

"A-r-e? y-o-u-r? p-e-o-p-l-e??? h-a-p-p-y? w-i-t-h O-B-A-M-A?????

20 posted on 08/30/2009 6:57:46 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: tlb
They're setting the agenda for a Democratic Party that controls the White House, the Senate and the House. Something's wrong in that."

"we need a bigger boat"

21 posted on 08/30/2009 6:57:56 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin is our Iron Lady of the North)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

click image previous post


22 posted on 08/30/2009 7:04:13 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin is our Iron Lady of the North)
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To: rabidralph

LOL! I have to steal that one. XD


23 posted on 08/30/2009 7:13:01 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: tlb

“I think if Obama fought, instead of finessed so much, he stood up and declared for what is really the right thing to do ... I think it would change the atmosphere.”

Nope. Obama simply doesn’t have the $$$ anymore because he spent it all on bank bailouts and bike roads.


24 posted on 08/30/2009 7:13:14 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: AlexW

Si.

Kumustaka?


25 posted on 08/30/2009 7:16:35 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: max americana

Please, do.


26 posted on 08/30/2009 7:16:43 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: tlb

Myers is pissed because he wasen’t appointed media czar.


27 posted on 08/30/2009 7:30:47 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“Kumustaka?”

MABUTI :)


28 posted on 08/30/2009 7:31:49 PM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: rabidralph
Bill Moyers is a creep. Theres just something wrong with these people. I wish I had the cure. Get people’s minds Right and make millions in the process. HA !!
29 posted on 08/30/2009 7:34:18 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: Drango
speaking of tools...was Moyers drunk?

It usually seems that way doesn't it.

30 posted on 08/30/2009 7:47:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I hope they keep making the mistake of thinking only right wing conservatives object to the government takeover. Let Berry come out swinging at the opposition, it will backfire. People aren’t going to be bullied into accepting their health control plan when they can see it’s nothing but a democrat power grab. Liberals might finally realize how much of the country despises liberalism.


31 posted on 08/30/2009 8:22:09 PM PDT by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: tlb

Moyers is a scorched earth democrat. Seems to be lot of them lately.

They’d rather take one wild swing for the fences and live or die. Either create their gotterdammerung totalitarian hell or go down in flames.

He’s an enemy.


32 posted on 08/30/2009 8:58:19 PM PDT by telebob
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To: tlb
""The problem is the Democratic Party," said Moyers."

You think? Maybe it isn't really democratic.
sovietjackass
Maybe it is really...totalitarian.
33 posted on 08/30/2009 9:02:59 PM PDT by VRWCRick
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To: tlb
And no credit to Sarah for taking control of the debate ?

Are you kidding? She'll never get anything but grief from the likes of Bill Moyer.

34 posted on 08/30/2009 10:15:43 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: tlb
He's on the right track but stubbornly refuses to make the ultimate conclusion about the Chicago Machine's stooge frontman and the philosophy of this administration.

And no credit to Sarah for taking control of the debate ?

*********

Famous so-called journalists like Moyers make me sick for this reason:

If Moyers and others like him had publicly demanded that Obama produce his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate and his Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard college records during the 2008 presidential campaign, we might not be in this terrible Obama mess we are in now.

So Moyers and others like him have no one to blame but themselves for this President Obama runaway train we are experiencing now.

35 posted on 08/30/2009 10:43:19 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: tlb
"I think if Obama fought, instead of finessed so much, he stood up and declared for what is really the right thing to do ... I think it would change the atmosphere."

Yes, it would. To a full blown RIOT!

I guess Moyers doesn't care if Obama, et al, completely destroy the Democrat party as long as Moyers, et al, get what they want.

36 posted on 08/30/2009 10:53:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: tlb
Is this the same Bill Moyers who worked as a political hitman for LBJ?

The same Bill Moyers who publicly out a man as a homosexual and caused him to commit suicide because he didn't like what he believed?

Bill Moyers is every bit the disgusting creature Ted Kennedy was.
37 posted on 08/30/2009 11:04:46 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Drango
Bill Moyers, lest we forget,was one of Lyndon Johnsons sleaziest and most dishonest operators.

You will have to go a long way to find someone with a bigger slime trail.

38 posted on 08/31/2009 3:54:10 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: tlb

Obama cant stand up and declare we Do the Right Thing because he doesnt know what that is ,He is a Communist Moyers ,what about that dont you understand ?
He thinks he is doing the right thing ,that is what he has been taught by Frank Marshall Davis , Bill Ayers and Saul Alinsky


39 posted on 08/31/2009 4:27:37 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: tlb

Good ol’ PBS—to the left of our Marxist President.


40 posted on 08/31/2009 4:33:52 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: tlb
"In the last few weeks, the right wing has been winning the debate. How [Obama] lost control of the narrative, I don't understand.

The "Right Wing" is not winning the debate and the Republicans are not winning the debate.

The American People are winning the debate.

The left cannot let that thought enter their minds or their heads will explode. I wish they would.

41 posted on 08/31/2009 4:48:52 AM PDT by paulycy
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To: tlb

“And no credit to Sarah for taking control of the debate ?”

“Death Panels” was a mortal wound to ObabaCare. Nice going Sarah.


42 posted on 08/31/2009 5:46:47 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: tlb

Moyers won’t be happy until America is full-on Stalinist, complete with Death Camps for Republicans.


43 posted on 08/31/2009 6:08:24 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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