Posted on 08/31/2009 3:57:53 AM PDT by dennisw
At the heart of this inquiry lies the nature of the community where Garrido chose to make his home after serving just 11 years of a 50-year sentence for a previous sex attack. For contrary to initial reports, this is far from being mainstream, middle-class, suburban America.
Together with his new wife, Nancy, whom he had met while she was visiting her uncle in jail, Garrido settled in a crime-ridden backwater where nobody pries into anyone else's business - unless they are willing to pay the price.
'The people here are like hillbillies,' says one local film-maker. 'They are all shady and want peace to do what they do. You're liable to get shot if you go into someone else's yard.'
Mr Rogers says 'perverts' in the area were regularly invited over by Garrido for sex, beer and drug parties and that the Garrido home was, in effect, being used as a brothel.
He watched groups of men arriving at the house on hot summer nights. They carried crates of beer. Mainly of Mexican appearance, they lit bonfires, played music and shouted and laughed late into the night.
They also took it in turns to enter a tent erected amid the junk in Garrido's backyard. 'I saw them entering the tent one by one,' he says. 'I saw them bobbing up and down and I thought, "My God, there is something sexual going on in there".'
Once, he peeped through a crack in the fence separating their land. 'These guys were unsavoury looking men,' he says.
'They were drinking beer and smashing the bottles on the ground. I thought they had a prostitute or something in there. I thought it might have been some kind of sex party or something. It happened quite often. They were different men each time.'
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Once more the clearest view of an embarrassing trouble spot in America comes from overseas.
where everybody minds their own business.... cna somebody tell me what’s wrong with that?
Excuse me?!?
Don't dare go comparing these evil hell spawn to hillbillies.
I’m noticing a trend of that...say for the last 9 - 10 months or so.
Sex den: The Garridos' neighbour Mike Rogers saw men troop into a tent in their backyard one after another
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Gives a whole to new meaning to Mr. Rogers' neighborhood.
My heart goes out to Jaycee and her two children. They're forever scared and traumatized. Maybe beyond repair.
Won’t you be... won’t you please... won’t you be my neighbor!
Well, for openers , it should be “where everyone minds HIS own business......”
They know no more about hillbillies than the Beverly Hillbillies.
Because you wind up compared to “shady hillbillies”, that’s why.
Salamander
[minding her own damn business somewhere in the Apalachees]
my thought exactly,
most ‘hillbillies’ would shoot or castrate him.
Or “his or her” — the standard dictionaries still have not endorsed the number-conflicting PC “their.”
But if this neighborhood lives up to its reputation it might as well be “HIS” — what woman would buy a property in this nest of male molesters?
Hillbillies are not trash! Some of the best art and literature has come from hillbillies.
I figured the area was dopersville after seeing a resident interviewed who was shy a couple of teeth “here and thare.”
when I retire, I’m going where everybody minds their own business. I intend to mind mine, and keep my overeducated nose otu of everybody else’s lives.
the best was to get along, is to leave alone.
Seriously, my paternal gramma *was* exactly like “Granny” and as a kid, everybody called me “Ellie May” because of all the critters I usually had trailing along behind me...:))
“Hillbillies are not trash! “
Did I say they were?
Did you know that porcupines will ~totally~ erase any evidence of bones?
I’m just sayin’.....;]
"Astonishingly, the area is home to 144 rapists and paedophiles."
Things have changed much from yesteryear. In the 50s and 60s people knew most of their neighbors (but didn’t pry too much). If something really odd happened — like the killing of a pet — everyone soon knew. Now you could probably get your wish by moving into any American suburb where there is no home owners’ association.
nope. agreeing emphatically.
Didn’t know that.
Alligators, and sharks can do the same thing. They are more available in my area.
“Things have changed much from yesteryear”
As I recall from growing up in the midwest people respected each other and left them alone. But people knew about each other. My neighbors growing up were practically part of the family.
Whats changed is the morality of people. People like this piece of garbage wouldn’t have been able to hide.
My wife’s pet peeve, and starting to be mine as well.
I don’t know whether it’s any dictionary that calls the shots on this issue, but the main reason it’s so troublesome is that it’s heard EVERYWHERE, like clockwork, especially in commercials and from newsreaders, and “pundits”. My wife and I talk about this all the time too, and I think you’re right when you pinpoint it as a
“PC” issue that is “number conflicting” at its core.
And yeah, NO ONE bothers with ‘his or her’, because it just sounds too wimpy and uptight, somehow.
“the best was to get along, is to leave alone.”
That’s something akin to a “religion”, here.
[unless of course some outlander is messin’ with yer neighbor’s stuff when they’re not home...been there, done that]....LOL
Years ago, young kids from the city were running a pretty clever theft scam hereabouts.
They’d drive their van up to an isolated house and knock on the door and ask for somebody by name, which given the area, it wasn’t very likely that kind of name would even exist.
If somebody was home, they’d apologize for the inconvenience and move on.
If nobody was home, they’d rob the place bare.
The day after the local paper ran an article on this, as if we all had “hive mind” syndrome...*everybody* had vowed to “not be home” if strangers knocked.
About a week later, they knocked on a door and nobody answered.
Imagine their shock when they broke in to find an old “hillbilly” sitting at the end of his dark hallway with a double barrel 12 gauge pointed at them and 911 on the line.
The cops snatched them up and that was that.
I love it here...:-D
Is anyone actually going to talk about the article?
I didn’t think this story could get any worse, but it has. Looks like this guy is even worse than Josef Fritzl.
> Some of the best art and literature has come from hillbillies.
Doc Watson, Chester Flat, Earl Scruggs, Tony Rice, Clarence and Roland White, Roy Clark, a list too great to enumerate ...
From the look of your spelling (overexcited, are ya?), my guess is that you DON’T have an overeducated nose.
And wherever you retire to, I’m kinda hopin’ it’s not Free Republic.
LOL!
That’s 2 critters we’re in seriously short supply of, here.
[we have Snakeheads and huge snapping turtles...do they count?]
Weird salamander factoid:
Within about a 3 square mile area, I know where every animal belongs...even if I don’t have a clue what their owner’s name is.
This comes in right handy because every lost thing, for reasons I can’t fathom, shows up at my place, wanting in.
Lone dogs, lost cats, an entire pack of coonhounds one time...you name it, it’s probably come here and sat in the lane outside my gate, waiting.
I always check at the guy up the pike’s fence for damage when I go by because the last thing I need is a herd of Angus milling around....LOL
For someone to think this is an unusual neighborhood from a physical setting or appearance has not been out much.
If you go to Google Earth, search
walnut avenue antioch, ca
and do a Street View, Walnut Avenue looks like thousands of other streets in arid parts of the United States.
Give it some rain, some shrubbery and green grass and it looks like a lot of working neighborhoods in the rest of the States.
Yeah, it is not Kennedy blue blood or country club, but you can see fenced yards, landscaped, cars neatly parked.
And then there are other yards that are not kept up the same way, sagging screens, cars abandoned, and junk. Unless you live in a rigid zoned community, this is called independence.
With regards to the citizens of Antioch:
“Drug and alcohol addiction are widespread; back yards are littered with cars and fridges. Astonishingly, the area is home to 144 rapists and paedophiles.”
The article does not define “area”.
If all 144 pervs live on Walnut Avenue, yeah, that’s a big problem. We would have to know the area and the percentage of pervs among the general population to know if it was out of wack.
If backyards have junked cars and refrigerators, that is a zoning issue.
If there are no zoning ordinances against it, then obviously there is no interest enough to sway a vote.
If there ordinances and they are not enforced, whose fault is that?
— proud independent living type
Dopers are scum.
ping later read
Pets, or is there more like raccoon, opossum etc?
California’s “Summer of Love” blooms into full maturity. Manson was a preview.
“Is anyone actually going to talk about the article?”
Okay....and we’ll do it ‘hillbilly style’.
All of those involved should be “took huntin’”.
The buzzards, crows, coyotes and ‘porkypines’ will take care of the mess.
Give’em a break!
It was 7 in the freakin’ morning!....LOL!
Wow. Amazing depravity.
Uh....guess....;-D
[and not much has changed after all these years, either]
p.s...my gramma had the same “problem” so maybe it’s genetic....:)
Somehow, animals must just somehow “know” who’s gonna help them...or not.
[At least that was the only reason we could ever come up with]
I think people are implementing a defense mechanism to avoid thinking of the absolute horror this poor girl went through.
OK, all of ‘em. And you take the possum, raccoon, etc. right back to its very tree.
Maryland launched a website where you could punch in your zip code and find out how many registered sex offenders were in your area.
I freaked out!
[and I knew at least 2 of them but I never would’ve guessed because they seemed like okay kids back in school]
Entering Hagerstown’s zip code pretty much ended any thoughts I might have had of visiting the few remaining stores downtown.
That’s been pretty much chewed through on other threads. The girl (now woman) hasn’t told of being gang banged... yet. This might have been an independent activity.
Pssst, there may be someone here who’s personally seen worse
Instead of ragging on the ‘hillbilly’ neighbors, why doesn’t the Daily Mail have something witty about cabrons who were actually involved in this nightmare?
Nah...just looked them over for car-hit damage, gave ‘em some water and chow and let them recuperate for a bit until they left of their own accord.
[baby birds and squirrels get put back in their trees, though]...:)
Last May, a possum mama dumped all 5 of her kids in my smokehouse and left.
They would go in the rabbit runs and cuddle up with them at night.
We fed them Beneful for 2 months and one by one, they went off to live their own possum lives.
I was kind of disappointed that she didn’t do it again this year but then a really dumb [or very clever] rabbit had 2 litters of babies in the backyard between the dry stones of my house foundation....right where my pack of “rabbit hunting” Ibizans play.
I kept the dogs from them and they all grew up and were great fun to watch as they “learned to be bunnies” in the goat pasture.
I smell more then just a bit of exaggeration here and remain skeptical regarding his story.
*If* she has anything similar to “Stockholm syndrome”, it’s not going to hit her until later when she’s “normalized” back with her real family.
*That* is going to be the worst time for her, I think.
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