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Huge Blaze Threatens 12,000 LA-Area Homes; 2 Dead (Latest News: 06:30PDT )
Orange County Register ^ | Aug 31, 6:30PDT | RAQUEL MARIA DILLON and JULIET WILLIAMS

Posted on 08/31/2009 6:46:31 AM PDT by kellynla

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Firefighters tried Monday to hold back a massive wildfire from consuming thousands of Los Angeles-area homes and a crucial communications center as they mourned two firefighters killed when their vehicle rolled down a mountain.

About 12,000 homes, as well as communications and astronomy centers atop Mount Wilson, were threatened by fire. At least 6,600 homes were under mandatory evacuation orders Sunday night and over 2,500 firefighters were battling the flames. On the blaze's northwestern front, two firefighters were killed Sunday on Mount Gleason near the city of Acton.

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Please pray for all the Firefighters and those whose homes are in danger.
1 posted on 08/31/2009 6:46:32 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: Admin Moderator

Please correct the name of the link.

It should read Orange County Register.

Sorry, I’m a little upset here.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


2 posted on 08/31/2009 6:48:50 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

The last two days have been very smokey in Las Vegas, 250 miles away.


3 posted on 08/31/2009 6:52:33 AM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie
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To: kellynla

Not to appear insensitive but this seems to be a story line we see each and every year at about this time. Has there been any talk as to how these sorts of fires can be prevented or at least their scope diminished?


4 posted on 08/31/2009 7:01:56 AM PDT by 101voodoo (OBAMA- THE OPIATE FOR THE DUMB ASSES)
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To: kellynla

I thought Mt. Wilson, the towers and the observatory were expected to be consumed before midnight pacific time last night?


5 posted on 08/31/2009 7:03:40 AM PDT by John W
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To: 101voodoo
Get back to me on another day

We're a little too busy fighting fires, today.

In the meantime, try praying for the Firefighters and those whose homes are in danger.

6 posted on 08/31/2009 7:05:02 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Are you in the path?


7 posted on 08/31/2009 7:05:06 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: 101voodoo

It’s a desert, there’s not a lot to do. Metal roofs, brush control, even then...


8 posted on 08/31/2009 7:07:43 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: 101voodoo
Ooooh, you're not allowed to comment on these threads unless your from CA or the poster will get angry!

* Wilhelm scream *

9 posted on 08/31/2009 7:11:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: kellynla

Prayers up Kelly. May the Lord protect those on the front lines of this.


10 posted on 08/31/2009 7:11:53 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Never give up, never give out, never give in.)
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To: 101voodoo
Not to appear insensitive but this seems to be a story line we see each and every year at about this time. Has there been any talk as to how these sorts of fires can be prevented or at least their scope diminished?

It gets complicated. You've got communities and neighborhoods growing into the woods. When the inevitable fire comes, instead of just burning some countryside and killing a few rabbits you've got houses burning. Firefighters are then tasked with saving property rather than building fire breaks and letting the fire consume itself. Compound that with the enviros that won't allow brush clearing or other common sense fire abatement measures and that's why this scenario plays out year after year across the West.

11 posted on 08/31/2009 7:22:39 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: randog

RE: Compound that with the enviros that won’t allow brush clearing or other common sense fire abatement measures and that’s why this scenario plays out year after year across the West.
I don’t understand why the enviros have this law, it seems counter productive.


12 posted on 08/31/2009 7:33:18 AM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: 101voodoo
Has there been any talk as to how these sorts of fires can be prevented or at least their scope diminished

Yep, it's called brush clearing. Last I knew, it was still illegal in CA.

13 posted on 08/31/2009 7:35:09 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Ranald S. MacKenzie

tons of smoke at certan times depending how the wind is blowing. They sky is very smoky here on the other side of the mountain in the San Fernando Valley here.


14 posted on 08/31/2009 7:35:22 AM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 101voodoo
Has there been any talk as to how these sorts of fires can be prevented or at least their scope diminished?


15 posted on 08/31/2009 7:36:10 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: 444Flyer

+1. Prayers for our firemen who take this on so bravely and in their service help so many others.


16 posted on 08/31/2009 7:37:52 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: wbill
Yep, it's called brush clearing. Last I knew, it was still illegal in CA.

After a devastating fire in Yosemite Valley some years back, the state of California began brush clearance operations in that area with a vengeance. I've driven through Yosemite in the summer, and have seen mile after mile after mile of baled forest litter along the highways.

17 posted on 08/31/2009 7:43:31 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: wbill; 101voodoo
“Has there been any talk as to how these sorts of fires can be prevented or at least their scope diminished”

“Yep, it's called brush clearing. Last I knew, it was still illegal in CA.”

Okay, for the LAST TIME AFTER TWO DAYS OF REPEATING THE FACT.

THIS AREA IS THE ANGELES NATIONAL FOREST...

THE OPERATIVE WORD IS “NATIONAL” WHICH MEANS IT IS FEDERAL LAND.

CALIFORNIANS HAVE NO CONTROL OVER FEDERAL LANDS.

GET IT?

SHEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Now, if you want to do something "constructive" ;come our here and help us fight the fires on FEDERAL LAND or at least pray!

18 posted on 08/31/2009 7:45:17 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: wbill
"Yep, it's called brush clearing. Last I knew, it was still illegal in CA."

Seems as if Mother Nature is unaware of the law since she appears to be taking care of the brush clearing in her own way.

19 posted on 08/31/2009 7:46:05 AM PDT by 101voodoo (OBAMA- THE OPIATE FOR THE DUMB ASSES)
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To: Windflier
yeah, but isn't it still illegal for homeowners to take care of it themselves?

I only ask out of ignorance, and the fact that when I found it was illegal, my first reaction was "So What?".

When it comes to obeying a law that's likely unenforceable, and saving my house from burning flat, that's an easy choice.

20 posted on 08/31/2009 7:46:15 AM PDT by wbill
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To: 101voodoo
Seems as if Mother Nature is unaware of the law since she appears to be taking care of the brush clearing in her own way.

Yep. Depends on if you want it handled the easy way or the hard way.

21 posted on 08/31/2009 7:47:56 AM PDT by wbill
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To: kellynla

Isn’t this what the statists want: depopulate swaths of rural and suburban areas and either move the inhabitants into inner city high rises or terminate them via Death Care? They talk about using bulldozers... but fires work just as well.


22 posted on 08/31/2009 8:01:52 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: wbill
yeah, but isn't it still illegal for homeowners to take care of it themselves?

Sheesh, I really don't know. Until I saw a couple of posts about that on these wildfire threads, I'd never heard of it.

I do know that years back in LA, you would get cited by the county if you let dry brush or tinder accumulate on your property. Especially in rural or hillside areas.

My reaction is the same as yours. I'll be damned if I'm going to put my family or my property in jeopardy because of some ridiculous "green" ordinance.

23 posted on 08/31/2009 8:05:32 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: randog

“Compound that with the enviros that won’t allow brush clearing or other common sense fire abatement measures and that’s why this scenario plays out year after year across the West.

Don’t lump Colorado in with the whackjobs of Kali. We allow and even demand fire abatement measures to include cutting anything and everything around structures.

We, of course, have many who do not protect their buildings from fire and their homes and buildings burn but that is called “freedom”; they are free not to and without complaint from any of us. It is not our property. We’ll help save their property and even help them rebuild because that is what living in forested areas is about.


24 posted on 08/31/2009 8:10:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

“Don’t lump Colorado in with the whackjobs of Kali. We allow and even demand fire abatement measures to include cutting anything and everything around structures.”

Yeaaaaaaaaa...you do a bang-up job in CO...

Hayman Fire Disaster - Pike National Forest, Colorado - June, 2002

“The premiere fire that year was the Hayman which burned 138,000 acres and 133 homes in 20 days. It still holds the record for being Colorado’s largest wildfire ever. Most of the fire (72%) stayed on the Pike National Forest south and west of Denver and northwest of Colorado Springs, Colorado. Enough fire escaped national forest lands to cause significant private damage.”

And don’t bother to ask how many CALIFORNIA FIREFIGHTERS VOLUNTEERED TO GO TO COLORADO AND WENT TO FIGHT THE HAYMAN FIRE!


25 posted on 08/31/2009 8:23:17 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: CodeToad

“Don’t lump Colorado in with the whackjobs of Kali.”

Or how ‘bout these...

“6,500 acre wildfire that broke out near Colorado Springs on March 3, 2009”

“Wildfires broke out in Boulder County, Colorado, on the afternoon of January 7, 2009”

“On April 15, 2008, wildfires in Colorado caused the evacuation of the towns of Ordway and Carbondale, as well as a voluntary evacuation of Fort Carson. Three people died in the fires.”

I suggest you keep your “Kali” wise ass remarks to yourself.


26 posted on 08/31/2009 8:37:16 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: John W
I thought Mt. Wilson, the towers and the observatory were expected to be consumed before midnight pacific time last night?

It was all hype by the news geeks.

In this particular fire, Mt. Wilson repeaters and transmission towers were never in any real danger, because that area is pretty small and easy to defend from the air. They ringed the entire area in fire retardant long before the flames ever got near it. But it made for great news on TV.

Think of it like one house in the middle of a forest. If you devote much of your resources to protect that one spot, you’ll very likely succeed.

27 posted on 08/31/2009 8:37:56 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: kellynla

You’re reading my mind with that response and you saved me from typing that myself.


28 posted on 08/31/2009 8:41:56 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: wbill
I was living in Long Beach during the massive forest fires in southern Kalifornia in 2003. The entire southland was a ring of fire and all the smoke funneled down into the harbor area. It looked like a nuclear winter.

A lot of people who had evacuated the Lake Arrowhead/Big Bear areas came down to the LBC to stay. I recall sitting in a Starbucks and listening to a woman talking on her cell phone - an evacuee sitting there with her two dogs - and she was b!tching about how all the fires were George Bush's fault because he wouldn't allow the forest service to clear the trees that had died from the Bark Beetle infestation. Ahem - "Hi, stupid lady? THE SIERRA CLUB IS YOUR PROBLEM, not the President. Why don't you blame them? Idiot." And I walked away.

As far as I know, the Sierra Club has not backed down and there is still plenty of dead fuel all over the Southwest. New Mexico is primed for a bad fire season, too. Lots of dead trees out there from Bark Beetle that have not been cleared.

29 posted on 08/31/2009 8:46:45 AM PDT by ponygirl
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To: dragnet2

Yea, well I get very tired of these out-of-state clowns coming on CA threads with their stupid remarks...like THEIR states NEVER have disasters...why hell if not for CA and other state Firefighters VOLUNTEERING to go elsewhere like Colorado to fight THEIR fires, Colorado would look like a briquette today!


30 posted on 08/31/2009 8:47:52 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-tivid-livestream-b,0,1174195.tividlivestream

WATCH LIVE: KTLA Sky 5 Over Yucaipa Fire


31 posted on 08/31/2009 8:49:51 AM PDT by maggief (KennedyCare ... Dead in the Water)
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To: maggief

Thanks we’re monitoring Internet, radio, TV & phones here.


32 posted on 08/31/2009 8:55:27 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Prayers up!


33 posted on 08/31/2009 8:58:47 AM PDT by maggief (KennedyCare ... Dead in the Water)
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To: kellynla

I’m listening to the scanner from here in northern California. Hoping and praying for you all.

It sounds like it more than doubled yesterday.

Our very scary fire is ok, now...although we lost 60 houses and commercial buildings.


34 posted on 08/31/2009 8:58:59 AM PDT by sissyjane
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To: wbill

Well, until you can control wether or not we have drought, and the humidity, and the temperature....But thanks for the help.


35 posted on 08/31/2009 9:00:48 AM PDT by sissyjane
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To: kellynla
Yea, well I get very tired of these out-of-state clowns coming on CA threads with their stupid remarks...like THEIR states NEVER have disasters...why hell if not for CA and other state Firefighters VOLUNTEERING to go elsewhere like Colorado to fight THEIR fires, Colorado would look like a briquette today!

Any excuse to bad mouth California...

Most of these people are just jealous of Cal or plain ignorant.

What some of these people don't realize, is California has some of the best, most highly trained rescue teams, law enforcement, and firefighters in the *world*.

As you pointed out, in Katrina, New Orleans, Hurricane Ike, 911 terrorist attacks in New York, Oklahoma City bombing etc, etc Californians were requested and were right there helping out the folks in other states.

We do this all the time.

36 posted on 08/31/2009 9:03:47 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: maggief; sissyjane

Thank you both for your prayers.


37 posted on 08/31/2009 9:10:05 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: dragnet2

“As you pointed out, in Katrina, New Orleans, Hurricane Ike, 911 terrorist attacks in New York, Oklahoma City bombing etc, etc Californians were requested and were right there helping out the folks in other states.”

Thank you!

My grandfather was a Fire Captain and he & I never asked “what state is on fire?” as if it made any difference.
If there is a fire and they need help, YOU GO!


38 posted on 08/31/2009 9:14:45 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: 101voodoo; kellynla; Brad's Gramma; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SunkenCiv; blam; ...
Our problems out here are compounded by the environmentalists ...on the East Coast ....that have no understanding of the unique problems that come with the western arid wilderness.....
39 posted on 08/31/2009 9:19:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: P-Marlowe

ROFL!


40 posted on 08/31/2009 9:19:45 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: ponygirl

Fire is long overdue for most National Forests in
Kaliph. I say let them burn. Get the people out.
Its not worth losing firefighters over.


41 posted on 08/31/2009 9:21:17 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good morning...I was beginning to think I was the “Lone Ranger” ‘round here. LOL

Any smoke your way?


42 posted on 08/31/2009 9:23:12 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good morning...I was beginning to think I was the “Lone Ranger” ‘round here. LOL

Any smoke your way?


43 posted on 08/31/2009 9:24:43 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

oops sorry for the dbl post...


44 posted on 08/31/2009 9:25:17 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge

BTW, have you heard from “calcowgirl”...haven’t seen a post from her in 2 months?


45 posted on 08/31/2009 9:29:05 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

We are praying for the brave firefighting crews and for our fellow Californians down south. We had the 49er fire up here yesterday in Auburn.


46 posted on 08/31/2009 9:34:30 AM PDT by afnamvet
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To: kellynla

heard from “calcowgirl”

Nothing here..


47 posted on 08/31/2009 9:35:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, I hope she is “okay”

Any smoke up your way?


48 posted on 08/31/2009 9:37:56 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
I have been an irregular for quite some time....but haven’t seen anything recently!

I am feeling some eye irradiation from the smoke even though I am staying indoors mostly....but I do have fans running...

49 posted on 08/31/2009 9:38:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: rahbert

Next time Washington floods, from all that rain, I’ll remind you that we shouldn’t have built where it rains so much.

You should get out while you can.


50 posted on 08/31/2009 9:39:49 AM PDT by sissyjane
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