Skip to comments.House Resolution 615 - Force Congress to enroll themselves in their new plan
Posted on 08/31/2009 9:41:45 AM PDT by do the dhue
House Resolution 615
Over the past few weeks, members of Congress and the American people have come to know the details of the Administration's proposed health care plan. Call it whatever you like, I believe this proposal is nothing more than government-run health care. As a physician, I am amazed at the number of bureaucrats in this House who are quick to claim a government-run health care plan is the reform this country needs. In response to this, I have offered a resolution that will offer members of Congress an opportunity to put their money where their mouth is, and urge their colleagues who vote for legislation creating a government-run health care plan to lead by example and enroll themselves in the same public plan.
Under the current draft of the Democrat healthcare legislation, members of Congress are curiously exempt from the government-run health care option, keeping their existing health plans and services on Capitol Hill. If Members of Congress believe so strongly that government-run health care is the best solution for hard working American families, I think it only fitting that Americans see them lead the way. Public servants should always be accountable and responsible for what they are advocating. Together we will work to ensure that any plan that is good enough for American families is good enough for every member of Congress.
If you would like to download a letter and ask your representative to consider supporting House Resolution 615, click here.
To see a list of Representatives who currently support H. Res 615, please click here.
Do you feel Members of Congress should be forced to enroll themselves in the health care plan they vote for? *
I voted yes, but I hope that my vote will not be taken as if I want the health care plan at all. I don't think it will be taken that way. All I think Fleming is saying is that if the plan is good enough for the people, it is good enough for Congress. And that I do concur with.
Even if they do have to enroll in any “common” plan....doesn’t mean they can’t buy additional services. Having lotsa money still works....
True enough Sacajaweau, but at least they would have to pay for it and it would send a message that their plan sucks.
Which brings me to this question:
Do you know why all the trees in the United States are leaning towards Washington DC?
Because the health care bill really sucks. That is why.
Yes, yes, yes. I love this. Flood this man with email and vote in his poll. PING.
It's worth it to go for this bigtime. Especially because it shows their hypocrisy and ruling class self-image.
It does not FORCE the voting members to enroll in Obamacare. It URGES them to do so.
But, it is a good effort and a nice SHORT, to the point resolution.
and may I add that this "Chains we can believe in" would tickle me, if it were not true.
I still think we should go for it. It makes a good point.
GOVERNMENT MANDATE CARE
KEEP YOUR CHANGE CARE
change the bill back to remove themselves and friends (acorn/unions) later.
You are correct that they use the word urge in the resolution.
AHH! I remember where I got FORCED from. It was in the question on his web page.
Anyhow, my bad.
I still think it is great. It certainly makes the point.
We don’t really want their healthcare anyway, so making the point is enough.
Also, I would like to know how this plan will handle a new disorder that is developing. I am already experiencing symptoms of Post Traumatic Health Care Plan Disorder (PTHCPD). If this plans passes, millions more will be suffering from (PTHCPD) and I don't think there are enough Doctors here to help us all.
Forget resolutions; after all congress does the moment they pass them. Put that as a rider on every single version of the bill and he’ll be the most popular congress critter ever.
LOL.I did go email a very personal request for co-sponsorship to my congressional critter and while I was at it, let him know what I thought about the feds running our healthcare.
Did you guys overload the site?
Here is my idea: Have a giant group plan. Put into it coverage for illegals and homosexuals. Guarantee coverage for gender reassignment surgery. Include all federal workers including congress critters. Make this plan completely dependent on premiums, with no taxpayer support and make the entire premium come out of the employee paycheck. Everyone else can buy their choice of private plans sold nationwide.
Darn, the site’s still down.
It is tricky — I had the best luck by hitting the google
refresh the page link.
You will never believe this, but I found that phrase while slumming over at DU. On a thread about the internet takeover thing.
That is an awesome tag line.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing
I believe you! I believe you! You didn’t have to make my virgin eyes look at that site!! I’ll be back in a few. I bought some Scrubbing Bubbles yesterday. I think I will try that out. I gotta go shower now. MAN, I feel so stinkin’ dirty.
I do like to visit there from time to time to see what they are thinking about all the “hope and change”. It is pretty fun to see them not so happy about their dear leader.
Not me. I got dain bramage the last time I was there.
Just one sec.
Let’s assume for argument’s sake that the democrats are right: The American health care system is broken, and needs to be fixed. (Work with me here.)
We already know that the members of congress won’t sign up for the government health care in HR3200 - or any other version of nationalized universal health care. And we know that they won’t give up their own version of health care.
Therefore, we must assume that the health care system that serves congress is not broken.
Let’s just make that special, unbroken, not in need of fixing, Congressional health care system available to all Americans. Everyone wins.
The congressional system prospers and grows from the extra business, and makes more money, and, best of all, pays lots more in taxes.
The broken health care system improves because it has to compete or fail.
The competition begets excellence and greater growth and profits. More jobs. More money for research. More taxes.
How ‘bout it, Congress?
Is that a yes we all hear?
"Government healthcare expenditures have been growing much more rapidly than GDP in OECD countries. For example, between 1970 and 2002 these expenditures grew 2.3 times faster than GDP in the U.S., 2.0 times faster than GDP in Germany, and 1.4 times faster than GDP in Japan.
How much of government healthcare expenditure growth is due to demographic change and how much is due to increases in benefit levels; i.e., in healthcare expenditures per beneficiary at a given age? This paper answers this question for ten OECD countries -- Australia, Austria, Canada, Germany, Japan, Norway, Spain, Sweden, the UK, and the U.S. Specifically, the paper decomposes the 1970-2002 growth in each countrys healthcare expenditures into growth in benefit levels and changes in demographics.
Growth in real benefit levels has been remarkably high and explains the lions share 89 percent of overall healthcare spending growth in the ten countries. Norway, Spain, and the U.S. recorded the highest annual benefit growth rates. Norways rate averaged 5.04 percent per year. Spain and the U.S. were close behind with rates of 4.63 percent and 4.61 percent, respectively.
Allowing benefit levels to continue to grow at historic rates is fraught with danger given the impending retirement of the baby boom generation. In Japan, for example, maintaining its 1970-2002 benefit growth rate of 3.57 percent for the next 40 years and letting benefits grow thereafter only with labor productivity entails present value healthcare expenditures close to 12 percent of the present value of GDP. By comparison, Japans government is now spending only 6.7 percent of Japans current output on healthcare.
In the U.S., government healthcare spending now totals 6.6 percent of GDP. But if the U.S. lets benefits grow for the next four decades at past rates, it will end up spending almost 18 percent of its future GDP on healthcare. The difference between the Japanese 12 percent and U.S. 18 percent figures is remarkable given that Japan is already much older than the U.S. and will age more rapidly in the coming decades.
Although healthcare spending is growing at unsustainable rates in most, if not all, OECD countries, the U.S. appears least able to control its benefit growth due to the nature of its fee-for-service healthcare payment system.
Consequently, the U.S. may well be in the worst long-term fiscal shape of any OECD country even though it is now and will remain very young compared to the majority of its fellow OECD members."
they will NEVER do it. If they have to then it will be far different from what they are planning for us now.