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W. Va. dad makes son cannon to fulfill birthday wish
Charleston Daily Mail ^ | August 29, 2009 | Times West Virginian

Posted on 08/31/2009 12:09:21 PM PDT by anymouse

Mike Daugherty asked his 11-year-old son Logan what he wanted for his birthday.

The boy said, "I want a cannon."

Dad didn't scoff at Logan's request by saying, "How about a hippopotamus instead," as a Christmas song from another era lamented.

No, Daugherty is not that kind of guy. He granted his son's wish and built him a Civil War-era cannon not a model, the real deal. The howitzer fires and rivals anything seen at Civil War reenactments across the country. He said it took him about two weeks to build and is worth about $6,000.

"It looks like something right out of the battle at Gettysburg," Daugherty said. The cast iron and steel 4-inch gun barrel is 36 inches long. It is mounted on a wooden gun carriage with two 36- inch diameter wheels. The cannon weighs about 700 pounds, so it is not something Logan will be able to carry to school in his backpack.

"I've always been interested in the Civil War and cannons, so I thought it would be a good gift," the boy said.

Daugherty said his son is very mature and would be able to handle the responsibility of owning a piece of artillery.

"He's a good kid. One thing about my son he has a great respect for guns and weapons, so he will not be firing this anytime soon without an adult present."

Daugherty said he is not worried about the federal government coming to get his son's cannon because he has spoken to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives as well as the National Security Agency. Though Daugherty said he is still stunned that he had to get clearance from the NSA for the archaic artillery piece, it is legal to own such a cannon because it does not use a firing pin or is breach loaded. He said the government does not consider the weapon a threat.

Two days after the family celebrated Logan's 11th birthday, father and son offered a field demonstration of the new cannon to the Times West Virginian on Tuesday. The cannon had never been fired. While Daugherty is an accomplished machinist, there was an element of danger involved in packing a virgin gun barrel full of gunpowder and lighting the fuse. Sometimes cannons blew up during the Civil War, sending shrapnel flying every which way.

And then there is the boom. Anyone who has been to a Civil War reenactment knows that sound shakes the ground and rattles the rib cage.

Daugherty and Logan placed the cannon on top of a grassy hill overlooking Fairmont.

"Any rebels charging up this hill would be in trouble with a cannon like this at the top," Logan said.

Daugherty packed the gunpowder into the barrel and used a blow torch to light a long, spindly fuse reminiscent of a firecracker. As soon as the grey smoke started chasing the spark, everyone covered their ears and stepped away far away and possibly even prayed.

Nothing happened.

The spark went into the chamber, but there was no boom. Anyone with muzzle loader or firecracker experience knows that just because there isn't smoke doesn't mean the thing isn't about to explode.

After a few tense moments, Daugherty cautiously approached the cannon. He took a deep breath and packed the gun powder tighter. He lit another fuse and everyone backed away again, though not as far.

"This time for sure," Daugherty said.

More smoke, but nothing. At this point there were two options: the cannon was going to go boom or not. Sounds simple, but the bigger question was if Daugherty wanted to tempt fate one more time. He steeled his resolve and said, "What's the point of building a cannon if it doesn't fire."

Clever and lucky man that Daugherty is, he discovered that the thick paper was not the best padding needed for igniting the gun powder. The problem was solved when he used scraps of the Times WV.

Seconds after he lit the fuse the third time, everyone backed away.

The blank inside the barrel went boom and a canon was born.

Dad and son were happy the cannon fired, but wanted to kick it up a notch. Instead of a cannon ball, they popped in an unsuspecting golf ball into the gun barrel.

"I wonder how far it will go," Dad said.

A moment or two after the fuse was lit, there was a loud boom just before the golf ball split the sky and landed about 600 yards away. The nauseating smell of sulfur invaded the nose as the fog of war cleared the field.

Father and son smiled. The cannon was a hit.

"Thanks," Logan said.


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Daugherty said he is not worried about the federal government coming to get his son's cannon because he has spoken to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives as well as the National Security Agency. Though Daugherty said he is still stunned that he had to get clearance from the NSA for the archaic artillery piece, it is legal to own such a cannon because it does not use a firing pin or is breach loaded. He said the government does not consider the weapon a threat.

Modern day "come and take it" story.

1 posted on 08/31/2009 12:09:22 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse
I am available for adoption. I want a minigun for my birthday.
3 posted on 08/31/2009 12:15:01 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Is ten minutes taken yet? I want in. LOL


4 posted on 08/31/2009 12:16:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Wearing neck brace in commemoration of Ted Kennedy's contribution to our society.)
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To: anymouse
Daugherty said his son is very mature and would be able to handle the responsibility of owning a piece of artillery.

Ah, 11-year-old boys and their cannons. The good old days. Why, I remember when we would bring our cannons to school for some dinosaur hunting after.

5 posted on 08/31/2009 12:17:09 PM PDT by decimon
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To: anymouse

What a COOL dad!


6 posted on 08/31/2009 12:17:11 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: anymouse

Next to the sweet scent of new mowed alfalfa and the honest one of a clean stable the ‘nauseating’ smell of black powder is one of my favorites.


7 posted on 08/31/2009 12:19:11 PM PDT by Leg Olam (Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: anymouse
And then there is this classic thread:

Blackpowder, bowling balls and sewer pipe! (Fire in the hole!!!)

8 posted on 08/31/2009 12:19:14 PM PDT by Species8472 (Limit all politicians to two terms, one in office and one in prison. (Illinois Already Does This)
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To: anymouse

Some kids have ALL the luck!


9 posted on 08/31/2009 12:19:41 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: anymouse

Looking at the photo and working the slide-rule, 4” x 36” is a very small gun by any man’s standard.

What sort of payload would such a weapon have delivered during the Civil War? Presumably grapeshot or somesuch anti-personnel load?


10 posted on 08/31/2009 12:23:02 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: anymouse
The nauseating smell of sulfur invaded the nose as the fog of war cleared the field.

Anyone who finds the smell of burnt gunpowder "nauseating" is a red communist; a prissy, effeete, whinging faggot; and worst of all ... a democRat.

11 posted on 08/31/2009 12:23:14 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: anymouse

700 pounds of iron and a load of gunpowder to send a golf ball 600 yards? Come on Tiger does that every sunday with two wacks from a thin metal stick.

LOL

No really. Cool cool story. Very cool.


12 posted on 08/31/2009 12:23:51 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: anymouse
"Dad! Dad! There's a guy from ACORN coming up the drive!"

"Well, son, I think you can handle this."

13 posted on 08/31/2009 12:25:16 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Ben Mugged

I wonder if he rifled the barrel for a more modern artillery shell that may be on the drawing board, something that goes boom where it lands?


14 posted on 08/31/2009 12:25:29 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: anymouse
Daugherty said he is not worried about the federal government coming to get his son's cannon because he has spoken to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives as well as the National Security Agency. Though Daugherty said he is still stunned that he had to get clearance from the NSA for the archaic artillery piece, it is legal to own such a cannon because it does not use a firing pin or is breach loaded. He said the government does not consider the weapon a threat.

That all sounds well and good, but I hope he had the presence of mind to get those BATF and NSA "okays" in writing...

15 posted on 08/31/2009 12:26:53 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Ben Mugged
I am available for adoption. I want a minigun for my birthday.

You used to be able to buy plans for a .22 cal small scale replica of a Gatling gun which any reasonably competent machinist could build.

Fasten said Gatling to solid base, add simple chain drive in place of crank, connect chain to starter motor w/12 volt battery and, viola!, a minigun.

Remember, when you test fire, black helicopters will show up and follow you home.

16 posted on 08/31/2009 12:28:22 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, Mr. Obama, please don't kill my gramma! NO on socialist healthcare!)
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To: GulfBreeze
"700 pounds of iron and a load of gunpowder to send a golf ball 600 yards? Come on Tiger does that every sunday with two wacks ONE whack from a soft 7 iron if the wind is behind him..

it would take me 3 solid whacks with a freakin 3 wood IF I nailed the ball each time..

17 posted on 08/31/2009 12:28:40 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Civil War field cannons delivered three basic loads. Solid shot for defensive breastworks, canister or grapeshot for masses of men and exploading ball shot with a fuse cut to a certain length to detonate overhead. Naval artillery or ‘guns’ as they were called used various designed loads for ripping up rigging and masts.


18 posted on 08/31/2009 12:29:12 PM PDT by Leg Olam (Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
A 4" field piece could have fired solid shot, shell, or (most commonly) cannister. At close range, it might have been "double shotted", that is loaded with two cannister instead of the usual one. Its job was shredding opposing infantry and cavalry.

The large wheels allow for easy transportation. The gun is relatively light and relatively easily maneuvered, to (sort of) keep pace with infantry.

19 posted on 08/31/2009 12:29:36 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Imagine what this could do to advance infantry...


20 posted on 08/31/2009 12:32:33 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Leg Olam; DieHard the Hunter

If I understand the law correctly, this device could (without legal repercussions) be loaded with shot or canister. Shell, however, would constitute a “Destructive Device” and be subject to all manner of NFA nonsense.


21 posted on 08/31/2009 12:32:34 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: anymouse

Perfect for DC Tea Party!

Pray for the T Party Express


22 posted on 08/31/2009 12:33:41 PM PDT by bray (He's a Divider not a Uniter)
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To: anymouse

I’m a former CW reenactor, and what this untrained moron has built is very dangerous to both him and his son, as well as to anyone else in its general vicinity when fired.


23 posted on 08/31/2009 12:36:10 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: anymouse

BTW, the National Security Agency could care less about CW repro cannons. It’s concern is communications and cryptology. This guy’s lying.


24 posted on 08/31/2009 12:38:29 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: anymouse

Awesome Dad, very cool.
My Dad took me to see a cannon fired when I was a kid at Mackinaw Island and some Civil War reenactments here is SE MI, battle of Raisn river IIRC.

Building a cannon would have been fun.


25 posted on 08/31/2009 12:38:38 PM PDT by postban (Help, I'm surrounded by blue state brain donors and all I have is a CCW, doh, nevermind he he he)
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To: Eaker; Squantos; Noumenon; Jeff Head; Travis McGee

Coolest Dad EVER ping.


26 posted on 08/31/2009 12:39:33 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: decimon

Daugherty said his son is very mature and would be able to handle the responsibility of owning a piece of artillery

Now son, put away your cannon and wash up for dinner....


27 posted on 08/31/2009 12:42:16 PM PDT by njslim
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Now son, put away your cannon and wash up for dinner....

...or you don't get the car keys to go pick up your teacher.

28 posted on 08/31/2009 12:49:33 PM PDT by decimon
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To: anymouse

He’s dangerous and just an accident waiting to happen. He should contact a Civil War reenactment group and get some expert advice before he loses an arm. The use of paper and trying to pack the powder almost crippled him.

The cannon is a half scale if anything. He could have easily bought one and it wouldn’t have cost 6,000 dollars.

Chicago light Artillery First Illinois Regiment - Check my profile page.


29 posted on 08/31/2009 12:59:52 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I posted before I read your’s. Absolutely an educated moron who will be lucky he doesn’t kill/cripple his kid or his self.


30 posted on 08/31/2009 1:03:48 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: anymouse

My first muzzle loading cannon was a huge carbide cannon I made from a washing machine transmission case and a piece of 2” pipe. Could shoot an apple 100 yards. Moved up to a 2-1/2” bore blackpowder cannon in college - made it on the shop lathe. Next was a replica 2 pounder from Dixie Gun Works. Lovely things but Mrs NHD really doesn’t like me firing them in the backyard.


31 posted on 08/31/2009 1:04:14 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

Fasten said Gatling to solid base, add simple chain drive in place of crank, connect chain to starter motor w/12 volt battery and, viola!, a minigun.


You were legally feasible until you got to motorizing it. Being able to fire multiple shots with a single pull of a trigger (flick of a switch) makes it a machine gun. I believe you probably need licensing to lawfully make any gun as well.


32 posted on 08/31/2009 1:17:40 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Socialism: The sin of envy, masquerading as a political movement.)
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To: decimon

Post #5 ROFL


33 posted on 08/31/2009 1:18:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

what this untrained moron has built is very dangerous to both him and his son, as well as to anyone else in its general vicinity when fired.


How so?


34 posted on 08/31/2009 1:19:07 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Socialism: The sin of envy, masquerading as a political movement.)
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To: Beelzebubba
Archdale Man Seriously Injured in 4th of July Cannon Accident

Cannon Accidents Reported or Recapped from 1996-2003

Moreover, very specific procedures need to be followed by a well-trained, qualified artillery crew in order to safely fire a piece:

STANDARD LIVING HISTORY ASSOCIATION CIVILWAR ARTILLERY DRILL MANUAL

35 posted on 08/31/2009 1:28:27 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Beelzebubba

He used paper for his powder bag. That’s insane. Modern reenactors use aluminum foil. He also should have poured water into the barrel after the misfire and started over. He probably didn’t pierce the bag before he lit the fuse.
The fuse is also a no-no because it leaves residue. He should have used a small amount of powder at the touchhole and used a linstock which is a fuse at the end of a staff.

From the photograph, I don’t see his water bucket for cleaning and swabbing the barrel after each shot.

He’s an accident waiting to happen. I hope it’s not his kid.


36 posted on 08/31/2009 1:32:00 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Sounds like his problems are in process and materials, not the cannon itself.

I cringed a little when he ramrodded it after it failed to discharge. Good way to lose some fingers.


37 posted on 08/31/2009 1:35:09 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Socialism: The sin of envy, masquerading as a political movement.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Obviously not how one is supposed to treat a hangfire!
Tamping it again is a good way to lose your arms.
Sure sound like he didn’t know what he was doing.


38 posted on 08/31/2009 1:36:42 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

My Civil War club has the original home movie from the 1970’s where the limber box blew up. The line didn’t have a dead zone and the limber box didn’t have a short enough chain so it couldn’t be left open like it was. Either a spectator threw in a cigarette or a nearby cannon threw a spark.

I saw the movie and the dead victim laying on the ground. It took a long time for the ambulance to come out for the others. It was nothing more than a station wagon.

Stupid and sad.


39 posted on 08/31/2009 1:41:34 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: anymouse

He had better find a VERY good hiding place. Hussein’s boys will not like this birthday present!


40 posted on 08/31/2009 1:42:29 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Beelzebubba

Maybe his hand or his arm. Possibly his life.


41 posted on 08/31/2009 1:43:04 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: raybbr
Upper left is a stack of cannon balls. Those would be fired one at a time.

Upper right is grapeshot ... the forerunner to canister, which was a more efficient way of packing the balls.

The bar and chain shot were used in age-of-sail naval warfare to destroy the opponent's rigging. Bring down his sails (and masts, if you're good) and the enemy is a sitting duck.

42 posted on 08/31/2009 1:49:50 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: anymouse

Two words. Spud cannon!

http://www.spudfiles.com/


43 posted on 08/31/2009 1:52:50 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: Lurker

Sweet !


44 posted on 08/31/2009 2:09:20 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Last time I was at GAT Guns he had a bunch of cannons on the second floor that were for sale.

Mrs. L said "NO ******* WAY!" before I could even ask the question.

45 posted on 08/31/2009 2:27:54 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: anymouse

Used to be a bunch of Old Farts near me that turned old railroad car axles on a lathe to produce some pretty good civil war era light artillery replicas.

Back then F or FF black powder was fairly cheap. Probably cost you $150.00 per shot now.


46 posted on 08/31/2009 2:46:12 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: anymouse

cannon ping


47 posted on 08/31/2009 2:53:56 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: anymouse

cannon ping


48 posted on 08/31/2009 2:54:00 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: anymouse

“Daugherty said his son is very mature and would be able to handle the responsibility of owning a piece of artillery.”

We shall see...


49 posted on 08/31/2009 2:57:37 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

http://www.wkrg.com/national/article/man-standing-in-front-of-cannon-when-it-goes-off/168225/Jul-07-2009_10-14-am/

An NC man was injured July 4th when a homemade cannon misfired.


50 posted on 08/31/2009 3:06:24 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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