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Winchester Awarded Department Of Homeland Security Ammunition Contract
ammoland.com ^ | Friday, August 21st, 2009 | ammoland.com

Posted on 08/31/2009 6:52:11 PM PDT by Greystoke

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To: Nachoman

Our local WalMart has dropped Blazer in favor of Federal. They’re actually getting more stock on the shelf now (local). Prices are a wee bit higher (9mm $8.97 vs $9.47) but the supply is more consistent.


51 posted on 08/31/2009 9:00:38 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: Greystoke
So, there's like 10,000 of these guys.

What are they going to do with 200mil rounds of hollow point ammo. You don't use hollow point for target practice.

20,000 rounds each.

I suspect we'll see a SUBSTANTIAL expansion of the Dept.

52 posted on 08/31/2009 9:07:37 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: freekitty
why all the ammo?

Obama directive to have his gov JBT's gobble up all of the ammo supply and dry it up for good for us "subjects".

Course, all we need is one well placed round to the gourd, not "spray and pray" like street thugs and JBT's.

53 posted on 08/31/2009 9:14:44 PM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: codder too

Considering so many of them are ACORN members, this may become more prominent in other states.


54 posted on 08/31/2009 9:47:12 PM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Antoninus II
Considering they’re up against the Mexican Army at an alarming rate I hope they can hit their target!

If only they'd fight them.

On the other hand, maybe if they built the damn fence, they wouldn't need so much ammo.

55 posted on 08/31/2009 10:34:19 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Greystoke
"Doesn't that seem like a lot of ammo for a law enforcement agency? "

Nope! Just the government finding ways to corner the market in order to keep the ammo out of American hands.

56 posted on 09/01/2009 2:23:37 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Antoninus II

Yes, the fewer the better these days-”it ain’t no more”, remember?

LEOs on average are much poorer shots than armed citizens, with an average shots per incident rate nearly 300% higher than citizens, and a hit rate nearly 500% lower... where do all those misses go?


57 posted on 09/01/2009 5:02:18 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: JimC214
They would use either Golden Saber or Black Talon in 147 Grain Plus P

Golden Saber is Remington. Black Talon? Flashback, dude. I'm guessing Ranger...

58 posted on 09/01/2009 6:55:18 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: SandWMan

far too true, unfortunately...


59 posted on 09/02/2009 6:26:57 AM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: Redcitizen

the big stuff.

I’m thinking starts with a 5...

if only...(sighs)


60 posted on 09/02/2009 6:28:14 AM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: castlebrew

Im a big fan of quad fifties. Git r done!


61 posted on 09/03/2009 9:13:14 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Zartan for President 2012)
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To: Mariner

>You don’t use hollow point for target practice.

You do if you are the government and somebody else is paying for it through either direct taxation or monetary expansion (inflation ensues as a hidden tax). Central planners like to standardize on items and practice with the service round does give realistic malfunction rates for the deployed rounds during practice.

If we don’t see a supply spike in once fired WW .40S&W brass it means they are either stockpiling it or not extracting salvage value by recycling the brass at its highest value (intact).


62 posted on 09/04/2009 6:40:14 AM PDT by LibTeeth
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To: Greystoke

http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/accessories/press-releases/1640496-Winchester-Wins-FBI-40-S-W-Ammunition-Contract/

December 14, 2007

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has awarded Winchester® Ammunition the single largest ammunition contract in the history of federal law enforcement worth a maximum of $54 million.

Winchester Ammunition will produce 40 S&W service ammunition, training ammunition, reduced lead training ammunition and frangible ammunition for the FBI for one base year, with four, one-year renewal options.

“The innovation behind the enhanced 40 S&W bonded service round is a testament to our Winchester engineers and the quality of our manufacturing,” said Dick Hammett, president, Winchester Ammunition.

Winchester’s enhanced 40 S&W service ammunition is a 180-grain, bonded jacketed hollow point round and was selected over all other rounds that were tested. The FBI tests the terminal ballistics of each round by shooting a specific test protocol through various barriers such as heavy cloth, wallboard, plywood, steel and auto glass into ballistic gelatin.

In addition to the FBI, the contract affects many agencies both inside and outside the Department of Justice, including the Drug Enforcement Administration, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and U.S. Marshal Service.

“On behalf of Winchester, we are extremely proud that our nation’s premier law enforcement agency has selected Winchester ammunition to use in its mission of protecting and defending the United States,” said Hammett.

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Sometimes funding works that way; usually it is not that simple. In fact, anything with the government or its organizations that looks simple at first is far from simple later on.

Maybe it will be filled. Possibly it won’t.

In Jan 2008, the FBI gave two contracts to Winchester:

$54 million for 180gn .40 S&W rounds (estimated 200 million rounds) + $54 million for 147gn 9mm Para rounds (estimated 270 million rounds). Both of these are 5 year contracts. The FBI has 13,000-14,000 agents.

All can be verified by public information at the FBI site or http://www.policeone.com

Decide from that what you wish.

My opinion, if they do have sinister intentions...hopefully they don’t, but...shame, shame, shame on the bastards for bringing pistols to a rifle fight.

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?s=50252aeedd5775dc0915e62e3602ff8f&p=502445#post502445


63 posted on 09/05/2009 7:14:28 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: Greystoke

Wow, a guy could have a lot of fun on the range with that many rounds! I wonder how long it would take to shoot them all?:)(I know simple math but I’m tired right now!)


64 posted on 09/05/2009 8:31:45 PM PDT by calex59 (Hope for a new job counts for creating a job! The dimwits are truly insane.)
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To: Paladin2

It would be .40 inches, or .40 caliber. There is an actual .40 caliber round used in semi-auto firearms, a very popular round actually.


65 posted on 09/05/2009 8:33:25 PM PDT by calex59 (Hope for a new job counts for creating a job! The dimwits are truly insane.)
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To: Antoninus II

Yes, my local range hosts law enforcement for about 3 counties and they shoot all the time. They have set aside a special area for them so they don’t interfere with the regular range. Judging by the shooting they do the three counties could run through 200 million rounds in a few years.


66 posted on 09/05/2009 8:41:06 PM PDT by calex59 (Hope for a new job counts for creating a job! The dimwits are truly insane.)
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