Posted on 08/31/2009 8:50:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The Republican alternative to Democrat-care, which liberals don't want you to know about, has been hijacked. They don't want people to know about it because the Astroturf, un-American crazies might like it.
The "Empowering Patients First Act," or H.R. 3400, was introduced by Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., and 27 co-sponsors on July 30, 2009, prior to the congressional recess. It was then referred to eight House committees.
The head hijacker is Speaker Nancy Pelosi. As Rep. Price pointed out during a radio interview with me last week, the rules in the House assert that bills will remain in committees "for a period to be subsequently determined by the speaker." Thank you Nancy!
The highly contentious 1,000-plus-page Democrat health-care proposal cleared the committees in a few days. The 63-page Republican alternative is stuck in committees, and it can't get out. Speaker Pelosi can simply keep it there while they continue to try to shove their proposal down the throats of the American people.
The mainstream media has aided and abetted the hijacking of the Republican alternative. In addition to not reporting on the alternative, they have helped to keep public attention away from the hidden provisions of the Democrats' health-care Trojan horse. They have also helped to keep attention on "how do we pay for it" and "what do we call it" as they proclaim it must pass.
The president and his administration, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and the liberals in Congress are trying to sell the public on Democrat-care, rather than listen to what a majority of We the People are saying. The Democrats are organizing hundreds of rallies across the country to counter the thunderous disagreement that they have encountered against Democrat-care during their August recess, and they label all criticism as smears and lies.
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Well, you know the media won’t report that as long as they can... Actually, I would love to see the negatives against the current bills in Congress and the Senate along with the proposed changes in the GOP version...
You don’t really expect that to be discussed in the Media do you? That would be against all liberal publications ethics...
They are not interested in the best plan - only the Democratic alternatives... Much less what is actually good for America!
Then blame SanFranNan for suppressing the alternative.
Folks are finally catching on to the fact that absolutely no one actually knows what's in a 1000 page bill...:^)
Great, so maybe you can answer my question. I have dsl, but it took a minute or two for the linked bill to load, so could you venture a guess as to the number of pages the GOP bill contains?
You see, I am of the opinion that all bills should be no more than 50 pages in length.
Furthermore, I think all bills should written in language that people with a valid high school education can understand.
I can live with that!
You have that right.. Liberals care about more about Power and Politics.. They can’t even keep it out of their funerals.
The only reform we should be interested in is getting government completely and totally out of health care. No Republican alternative should be acceptable unless it has to do with achieving health care free from government interest and intervention.
It is an insane amount of money because most of the people running this country are insane.
Be in D.C.!
Well, excuse the heck out of me math wizards. Humph, with my math skills I could be an Obama czar!
From my understanding, House Bill (3200) is in it's 4th rendition and there is no bill to pass on to for the returning session.
I doubt any one who has had a meeting (or been on see me tv) can be honest if they say they know what will happen.
Nothing has even passed, never mind had any bridges or parks attached to it!
This is the first I have heard of it. Why?
That check isn't just printed and sent to these people, it taken from and given to them, out my pocket. How is that fair? I earned my money the hard way, I worked for it and put with a lot of crap to get it.
There ZERO problem with anyone receiving health care. You do not need health insurance to get the most basic of care, which can help you manage your life more healthily(if that's a word).
Health Insurance is $300 per month or at a minimum $3,600 per year. When you see a doctor the maximum they charge is $150. I see mine at least 4 times per year, so he knows me and my body. That comes out to $600. My medicines cost another $200 per year.
Let's see: $3,600 - $800 = $2,800. That's $2,800 that I did not need to spend and most people, if they sat down and looked at their actual used services vs how much they spend on health care, health insurance, deductibles, minimums, maximums, etc would really not justify the cost.
Are there challenges in the system? Sure, but who is going to pay for those services that can save “your” life or extend it? Should that be the rest of society by forced confiscation or should you be responsible for your health care.
It really doesn't cost that much to stay in shape and eat right(this coming from someone who has gotten rather lax in last several years but, I am working out again and eating right).
I really does not cost that much to develop a relationship with a doctor who will get to know you and your body.
What are the really big problems in health care that need fixing?
I have some ideas that are rarely talked about like refusing care for non emergency visits, from habitual abusers of the medical system. Things like the entire family coming in for check ups, colds, etc.
A hospital is not the proper venue for that. A doctor is.
I don’t want any da****d alternative, I want health care to be left alone. I want tort reform, I want the sale of insurance across state lines, but I want health care left alone!!!!and I would bet the majority of Americans do also. Leave it to the frickin’ republicans to snatch defeat from victory.
Once the government get's its hands on our health care, no matter how unobtrusive it seems at first it will turn into the exact type of BS the house is trying to push through now.
You are a fool if you believe otherwise. We have the best health care in the world, Canadians and other foreign nationals prove that by coming here for care.
Keep the government out of my health care and if you want anything different take your a** to some other country.
Ditto. I don't care which party you belong to. Stay the hell out of my life.
I don’t have the money for your scenario anymore than I have the money to pay for more than my auto insurance will pay but, it’ll just have to get paid. $300/$150/$300 is a lot for auto insurance but those are the maximums along with all the other stipulations, maximums and deductibles.
And yes it costs me a pretty penny to have that amount of auto insurance but that is about the most I can afford without going crazy.
Your line of reasoning lacks intellectual depth. Really, it does.
You cannot possibly plan for every event in your life. Life happens.
You cannot possibly purchase insurance against all catastrophies. You will go bankrupt and may purchase too much insurance wasting valuable money. And again life happens.
Even when I had so called “health insurance” it came with prohibitions, permission slips to see the next doctor, deductibles (that means $$$$ and lots of $$$ out your pocket that the insurance company will not pay), minimum or standard care disclaimers (again $$$$ and lots of it, maximum allowable (and again with the $$$ and lot of it) the list goes on and on and on.
The insurance companies aren’t stupid either. They could not possibly cover everyone and everything. Why? They would go broke.
See, the way insurance companies work is off of a pool of money called arbitrage. So long as there are more premiums coming in than money going out, they can keep up this semi and legal Ponzi scheme.
You (everyone) on the other hand have handed the insurance company more than $3,000 per year over a lifetime and you think what? They are going to look back over your history and say to themselves “Well, he has been a good guy over the years. No claims, very few claims, etc and whatever”.
Do you really think that?
The insurance company looks for dis-allowables all the time.
The insurance company looks for standard care provided scenarios you fall into. (I have been there and I ended paying for the rest of the care and got it done when I wanted it done without a permission slip from the insurance company)
The insurance company only covers so much, after that you fall out of scope of the coverage provided.
The insurance company will only pay so much for a given condition. Like gall bladder surgery. They will only pay up to $5,000 based on a whole host of conditions and then you pay the balance, plus your deductible that is about $9,000 out of your pocket. Don’t like the terms? Suffer or pay your share.
What total coverage or miracle of free care are people looking for? Go to the clinics or emergency rooms. You don’t have money and want to avail yourself of free care? No problem, have seat in the waiting room, we’ll get to you soon.
What does soon mean to you? A couple of minutes, 15 minutes or realistically, more like a couple of hours or all day.
So, like you, I hope I don’t get cancer. If I do I will work out whatever I can to pay them and send a thank you note for saving my life.
That’s funny! lol
from last night about GOP alternative to healthcare:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2329162/posts?page=37#37
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