We're number one! We're number one!
Posted on 08/31/2009 9:40:59 PM PDT by trumandogz
More girls under 15 give birth in Houston than any other U.S. city, according to a new national report, and many of the city's teen moms have additional children before they turn 20. The report by the research organization Child Trends found that there were 20 percent more babies born to girls 14 or younger in Houston than in New York and Los Angeles in 2006 and that 24 percent of all Houston's teen births were repeat births that year, the latest for which data is available.
(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...
In Texas, we are Pro-Life.
How many of the mothers are former New Orleans residents?
Parts of Houston is a hell hole.
What city leads in teen abortions?
Abortion only prevents the birth, it doesn’t prevent the pregnancy.
Doesn't sound like the secnod time pregnant mothers are abstaining or even afraid of a second pregnancy or even ignorant of how one gets pregnant.
No mention is made at all as to the citizenship of those having babies.
They are UNWED and Hispanic?
Being pro life is fine but let's open up discussion on abstinence and introduce Christian vales ... .
How many of the mothers are children of illegal aliens?
Anchor babies!
The question is, will Houston overtake Chicago in the 2010 census?
The vast majority of 12-14 year old Hispanic girls in Houston would be U.S. citizens as they were born here. The same may not be true of their parents but these babies being born are second generation Americans.
Great - REPEAT BIRTHS by teens!
“The report was seized by Texas child advocacy and health groups as one more indictment of the state's abstinence-only education policy.”
Abstinence does work! If parents stress it and KNOW what they're kids are up to ... I doubt this would be happening. Our culture pushes sex like there is no tomorrow. All these factors greatly contribute to sabotage the message but I really look at PARENTS the most in teaching their kids and KNOWING what they are DOING. Pregnancy doesn't happen by osmosis.
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“Manlove said Texas’ high teen birth rates are particularly driven by the state's large population of Hispanics, in whom teenage motherhood is more culturally accepted than it is in other ethnicities.”
Yes, it is culturally correct in the Hispanic culture to indulge ... and their attire is typically provocative. We truly need to upgrade their “culture” as well as the American culture. This is a disastrous situation.
Try Mexico!
It’s in the Hispanic culture to do this ... .
I don’t think so, but it will be close as Houston was 600,000 short of Chicago in the 2000 census.
Doctors and health officials say they are overwhelmed by both the new arrivals and those immigrant mothers who already are in the state. Even Houston's feeling the pinch. An estimated 70 percent to 80 percent of the 10,587 births at Ben Taub General Hospital and Lyndon B. Johnson General Hospital last year were to undocumented immigrants, administrators say.
Dallas leads nation in repeat teen births
SnippetsTexas had the highest repeat rate of any state for the sixth consecutive year. Among seven metro areas, Arlington had the lowest rate, 19 percent, while Fort Worth's 25-percent rate was in a tie nationally for seventh-highest. Also making the list were San Antonio with 26 percent, and Houston and Austin, both with repeat teen birth rates of 24 percent.
Of the city's 3,739 teen births in 2006, the report says, 64 percent were to Hispanics, 30 percent to blacks and 6 percent to whites. Although most were to 18- or 19-year-olds, there were 72 to girls 14 or younger.
It's crazy. They leave that culture and REPEAT it HERE!
financial report, which will be presented to a City Council committee today, that the city has a $103 million budget shortfall.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6595994.html
I am guessing that most of them are not American citizens.
If they are only 13 or 14 years old, it is likely that they were born in the US and are US citizens.
It is decidedly antiChristian, ascribing the term “sex negative” to Christian moral teachings.
http://www.positive.org/Home/index.html
Just say yes:
We have a quick and easy online tour through the most important topics for teens who are sexually active now or just thinking about having sex. It's called “Just Say Yes” (en español: “¡Di Que Sí!”) because we're tired of people telling us what we can and can't do. There's no preaching. No moralizing. Just the facts.
Many groups that are antiabstinence are not honest in their reason for opposing abstinence (as a behavior as well as a teaching). They find it to be an “unhealthy” suppression of sexual desire.
Healthcare is not Ted Kennedy’s legacy. This is.
Maybe I’m lost in the semantics of all this, but the liberals are saying abstinence education doesn’t work?
Maybe the message doesn’t penetrate these groups of people; that’s quite possible. But abstinence itself; the physical act of abstaining always works. Whether educating people in that way makes a difference is questionable, but abstinence behavior will work if people behave that way.
72 teen mothers in Houston were 14 or under.
Doesn’t take too many border crossings to reach that figure.
For the most part, the people that cross the border illegally are adult males.
Very few bring their children across illegally.
¿Si Habla Español?
Perhaps English isn't their language. I know for a fact that the Hispanic culture encourages young marriage and kids. Unfortunately they are skipping the married status and going for it.
It's not so much about brainwashing them or “educating” them. It's about VALUES and PRINCIPLES. Sex has been around for a long time ... . NOW we have a tremendous problem with SELF CONTROL. and specifically in the area of sex. Sure, people in the “old days” would occasionally get pregnant but it wasn't the norm and “repeats” weren't the norm either.
I really blame parents and the “culture”. It's now just the Hispanic culture but our own culture is encouraging this. Movies, TV shows all encourage this stuff. It's up to parents to step up.
I hear ya ... .
All of this is straight out of the Marx playbook.
DESTROY the TRADITIONAL FAMILY - anyway you can.
¿Si Habla Español?
Me speak well english.
As am I (and probably most on this board)
How to phrase this? Is the age of 15 inconsistent with other areas?
I've read (quickly) some of the replies and of course, there are other questions, but they don't apply to the children having children (at least not in my 'ancient' method of upbringing).
For me, to have a child, hopefully, it is to have a family. Sadly, I don't see this happening with many of the stories that are being reported.
I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
“In Texas, we are Pro-Life.”
Still, the sperm-donor should be prosecuted if an adult...
“Our strength lies in our diversity.”
Kids having babies is a bad cycle in industrial and post-industrial societies.
The primary problem is that it does not provide those who are having babies to pursue education and without education the cycle is perpetuated.
Both is Texas and Louisiana I have encountered families of all races or ethnicities where there is an infant, a 15 year-old mother, a 30 year-old grandmother and a 45 year-old great-grandmother.
That reproductive cycle may have worked in preindustrial times, but today it is devastating for the individual, the family, the culture and the nation.
Thank you for the reply, it is mostly in line with my thoughts.
I would ask you, do you see any provision in our education system, the ability to stop even older ‘children’ to have children?
Is there, in our society, the ability to give them the reasoning to not have children? (or has that now become some kind or right or right of passage?)
The United Nations (not that I have faith in that) attempts to and request funding to do so in other nations. What stops us from doing the same?
(realizing that the question/s may be without an answer).
Again, thanks.
Something to do with the length of the chromosomes, I've read.
Is there, in our society, the ability to give them the reasoning to not have children? (or has that now become some kind or right or right of passage?
We cannot expect to find success among among all classes and ethnicities by teaching them about relationships, sex and reproduction in the exact same manner
Thus, Abstinence Education may work with suburban kids who have educated parents and who have other avenues of information available to them if they wish to research contraception.
However, those kids who have uneducated parents and thus may not have the intellectual discipline to choose abstinence, will not be well served with Abstinence Education. Furthermore, these kids likely do not have access to the Internet or the skills required to research birth control.
Therefore, since the parents in that second group are failing to provide their children with the abilities to make wise decisions or at least to conduct research on matters of reproduction, it is up to us, the educated, to see to it that our schools provide this information.
Schools or society, I don't know which, probably both. (I may be too tired to be coherent or thoughtful on this now)
Education, Yes, perhaps also 'consequences' before and after? Are we as a society being too lenient in providing for those that don't care how their consequences affect others?
Consequences for parents/child and hopefully that will be an education (which most of us were brought up under?)
Perhaps even Society must be educated to be aware?
I now live in a town where there is a curfew (and a firehouse whistle to alert of same). That's something I never needed where I grew up... my parents took care of that!
Yup... and all eligible for food stamps and WIC if they have that in Houston.
Why is that? Are you saying no one who is 13 or 14 can be illegal?
Please re-read what I wrote:
"If they are only 13 or 14 years old, it is likely that they were born in the US and are US citizens."
Now, to further explain.
The great majority of illegal immigrants are adult males. Of course there are also adult females but not as many as there are males.
And while there are some children who are illegal aliens, the vast majority of Hispanic children in the US were born here and are US citizens.
Well yeah, would you like to guess what the average age of a woman was for first marriage in the 19th century in America?
What is your point here TD?
usually you are very PC on race and ethnicity especially if it has to do with blacks
we all know what the stats are on illegitimacy or we wouldn’t be on this forum..
blacks first by a mile
hispanics second
many Asians third..yep, we always think they are better than the evil Satan cracker
whites fourth...
Japanese, Church of Christ and Seventh Day Adventist Whites and Orthodox Jews last
*Amish...I’m giving them a break on this one
** yes...latinos do abort less..give Il Papa credit for this one
*** you’re picking on hispanics on this one I figure...inaccurately TD since the bigger problem (marginally) in Houston is black illegitimacy I’d reckon since their illegitimacy rates are 40 to 55% higher than latinos and they are about equal numbers percentage wise of the population in Houston
Blacks 70-80 % depending on whose study..39% for Negroid immigrants...hmmm...that sez something eh?...can we exchange Detroit inside 8 mile for The Gambians?
Latinos 50% natives, 40% for immigrants...surprise freepers!
Whites 25% natives, 12% cracker immigrants...only one illegtimate baby in my extended family of 150 and it happened at Tulane...care to guess the race of the non daddy who’s now in prison..again?
Asians 30% natives, 11% Asian immigrants...hmmm\
indeed illegitimacy and it’s evil twin thug kulture are the two biggest enemies in our culture today aside from abandoning God...which sorta goes hand in hand
http://www.cis.org/articles/2007/back507.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston#Demographics
i don’t think it was as early as we think though in my mom’s piney woods family it was mid teens
Yes. We are in a post-industrial society and in order for such a society to prosper, the people need to be educated. And when the adults of certain cultures do not value the importance of education, we must help their children realize the value of education.
If not, that cycle of illiteracy and poverty will not simply continue but it will grow at an exponential rate.
Read the rest of my posts on this thread,
It is all about education.
As for illegitimacy, we need to realize that Abstinence Education does not work with all groups, especially the poor, white, black and Hispanic who come from families that lack education.
In other words, if mom and dad are not going to teach them to keep in zipped or at least slap on a raincoat if you must have sex, then we have to step in and be the responsible parent.
But, aren't ALL births under age 15???
(Looks like the Chron fired all their best headline-writers)
It is a lot different than people's perceptions, we all have relatives or a past family member that was 14 or 15 but it definitely was not the norm. Not in Europe either.
This is just a quick hint to show you that if needed the information is there and what it says, although this covers the 18th century it lets you know that the past is a little different than we think, I can put together my old sources if needed.
Those that currently ‘procreate’ without regard for themselves, their offspring or those in society, may need more than education (literary)(they need social, family education/interaction)
They probably need a sense of self or importance/worth. Perhaps, they recreate to achieve same? Or, they believe they will give to their offspring what they were denied?
Perhaps it’s just a continuation of their upbringing.
Again, I will add, the need for consequences. If one person male/female, knows of another having a child and being provided for, what is in place to prevent them from doing the same?
(appreciate your time and thoughts concerning this)
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