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More Obama Indoctrination going on in schools
Youtube ^ | August 24, 2009 | Youtube

Posted on 09/01/2009 8:38:04 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear

I'm speechless.

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KEYWORDS: agenda; brainwashing; democrats; indoctrination; obama; obamaschooladdress; students
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To: RummyChick
I don’t have a problem with teaching a song to be sung if the President is coming to visit the school.

They are singing praises to HIM PERSONALLY. It's a very creepy, unAmerican thing they are doing.

51 posted on 09/01/2009 10:08:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Health Care Reform has met the DEATH Panel.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I don’t have any words either.


52 posted on 09/01/2009 10:09:38 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: latina4dubya

I made my later post before seeing yours and said almost the same thing.


53 posted on 09/01/2009 10:10:14 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Health Care Reform has met the DEATH Panel.)
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To: davius

Yes, “Children of a Lesser Corn”.


54 posted on 09/01/2009 10:11:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Health Care Reform has met the DEATH Panel.)
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To: RummyChick

If the song was a neutral patriotic song, I wouldn’t mind either. “America the beautiful”, or “star spangled banner”...something that honors the country. The O needs to be reminded what this country stands for once ina while.


55 posted on 09/01/2009 10:19:11 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Disgusting!


56 posted on 09/01/2009 10:50:31 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: RummyChick
. It would be interesting to see what song children were forced to sing at the Reagan Library.

Uh?....”God Bless America”? “The Star Spangled Banner”? “Battle Hymn of the Republic”?

Gee?...Maybe “My Coutry ‘tis of Thee”?

57 posted on 09/01/2009 10:56:39 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK
Make sure you run and vote for the next school levy.


58 posted on 09/02/2009 6:31:54 AM PDT by crazyotto
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To: rcrngroup

Would you have a problem with your Kids , that went to Obama Elementary, going to Obama library and singing the School song while handing out his favorite candy?


59 posted on 09/02/2009 8:05:51 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: rcrngroup

WHAT ARE THE LYRICS for Reagan Elementary?


60 posted on 09/02/2009 8:06:44 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: wintertime

Doubtful..go find the lyrics to the School Song.

And I will ask you the same question I asked the other poster. What would you think about your kids having to go to an Obama Elementary School, going to his Presidential library, honoring him, and singing the school song and handing out his favorite candy.

Those kids probably felt honored to do it..but it is still forcing kids to go along with something that is Republican Oriented..and if kid did not go..other children might make fun of him.


61 posted on 09/02/2009 8:09:51 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Would you have a problem if that song those kids were singing was about Obama saving the day for Santa Claus with his helicopter?

ooops, it appears schools did put together a special program for visiting REPUBLICAN Presidents....

http://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/27/us/washington-talk-briefing-reagan-skips-school.html


62 posted on 09/02/2009 8:21:31 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Of course your post is a perfect example of why we must begin the process of shutting down **all** government K-12 schools and privatizing **all** K-12 education.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A RELIGIOUSLY, CULTURALLY, AND POLITICALLY NEUTRAL SCHOOL!!!!

Yes, I am shouting. Stupid conservatives seem to think that government schools can be reformed. ( If only they could run them.) Government schools can't be reformed, because it is just as immoral to impose a conservative worldview on the nation's children ( and force taxpayers to pay for it) as it is to impose Obama’s radical, leftist communfascism.

63 posted on 09/02/2009 8:24:08 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

That is another story. The bottom line
it is not uncommon for schools to do something for Presidential visits. They feel it is an honor. There may have been people upset that the kids were forced to sing about a Christian holiday when Reagan came to visit that put him as the Savior of Santa Claus and the delivering of presents.

Schools do it for Republican Presidents, TOO. Anyone that thinks schools don’t is showing incredible bias.


64 posted on 09/02/2009 8:41:10 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: America_Right

Not A Parody [Jonah Goldberg]

So, if Obama has his way, he is going to talk to our kids, and by our kids, I mean all of them. Here’s Arne Duncan’s letter to principals.

When I first heard about this story, I thought it was odd but probably ok. But then I read Frederick Hess at the Enterprise Blog who has looked at the suggested teaching materials to go with Obama’s speech:

Things get downright disconcerting when one eyeballs the federally approved lesson plans that the Department of Education has cooked up to support the president’s speech. The preK–6 lesson plans, which were developed with federal funds, devised on taxpayer time, and made available on the Department of Education’s website, exhort teachers to extend the impact of the president’s speech by having students “write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.” This clumsy bit of cheerleading shows no awareness that ”help[ing] the president” might be construed as an invitation to engage in advocacy rather than instruction or that it might worry those who are not Obama partisans. What’s truly remarkable, however, given recent concerns about intrusive federal government this past month, is the lesson plan’s directive that “these [letters] would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.”

It all sounds a touch Orwellian, no? “Redistributed” to whom? “Accountable” to whom? Accountable for which “goals” exactly—the ones that involve “helping the president”? I’m sure the intentions behind all of this were decent enough, and that this whole effort was intended as a pep talk dressed up with innocuous materials. The lesson plans were likely drawn up by a couple of low-level staffers and slapped up on the department website without a careful look. But this all points to some of the perils posed by the growing presidential inclination to serve as superintendent-in-chief, and it highlights the kind of hubris that has fueled concerns about the implications of the federal government’s growing reach.

In my book I discuss at some length how progressives, led by John Dewey, have always seen schools as vehicles for promoting statism. Sounds like Obama’s staying true to that vision.


65 posted on 09/02/2009 8:48:23 AM PDT by roses of sharon (Kennedy dared us to call his bluff, when we didn't, he made all of us complicit in what he had done.)
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To: RummyChick
That is another story.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It is impossible for government schools to be politically, religiously, or culturally neutral. That **is** the story.

Fundamentally, ( at its foundation and bedrock,) it is **impossible** to have a religiously, culturally, or politically neutral education. It is axiomatic.

That is why there are government school outrage stories every day of the week. Underlying all of these government school battles is a clash of political, cultural, and religious worldviews. Compromise on the worldview and the citizen has compromised his very soul.

There is only one solution: Begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 schooling.

66 posted on 09/02/2009 8:49:58 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: RummyChick

I would be shocked...if obama did that. For me, this is about obama’s agenda, his history and crazy compadres from chicago and weather underground. I don’t think songs of praise are àppropriate.


67 posted on 09/02/2009 8:54:54 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: RummyChick

Correction, I would be shocked if kids sang and praised obama for doing that, he’s more of a ramadan (sp) guy. (Smirk)


68 posted on 09/02/2009 8:58:07 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

69 posted on 09/02/2009 9:00:58 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

But you see, these are schools who are doing something that has been done for decades..like the song about Reagan saving the day for Santa Claus. There are probably music teachers back in the day...that made up simple songs to teach kids music..and did it about Presidents, or whatever. It’s an activity

You are just putting a more sinister slant on it through your Fascism glasses..because you are more educated as to what is going on...and are worried about the Hitler Youth Brigade.

Would you really have had a problem if Laura bush or President Bush was going to do something like the Sept 8th school address???

Liberals would have probably screamed about it...but would you have had a problem???

The bottom line for me is that I can’t get upset over this song if it was done for a visit IN CONCEPT. I couldn’t hear all of the lyrics. For example, if they said Obama was the Messiah or Obama was God I would have a problem.

If it wasn’t for a visit..then you have to watch that slippery slope. I doubt Obama told them to do that song....but we could get to that point.

If my kid was in that school and came home with that song...I am not sure what I would do. Those are young kids.


70 posted on 09/02/2009 9:09:39 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All

Turnabout is fair play:
If obama is going to try and steal our children’s hearts and minds, then as parents, it is our duty to tell them the ugly truth about obama:
Tell them he thinks it’s ok to kill babies. Tell them he is friends with people who cut off the heads of people who have different religious ideas. Tell them he will put Mommy and Daddy in jail for being mean to the environment.
If your realationship with your children is weaker than than their relationship with their teacher/propogandist, you have more than the obamachrist to worry about.


71 posted on 09/02/2009 9:16:28 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Maverick68; RummyChick

Parents upset over propaganda video... Let’s be servants to obama

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2330132/posts


72 posted on 09/02/2009 10:24:32 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: RummyChick

I think using a variety of methods to teach children facts are necessary. I have no problem with music, poems, lyrics being used as tools to teach facts such as history. I did have a problem when most schools went PC and took halloween, christmas etc out. Putting a president in a themed story, doesn’t bother me as much.

You are right when you mentioned the glasses I am wearing. I too couldn’t hear all the words. I will listen again on better speakers to try to get a better idea. I know there have been stories of teachers spewing their bias in the classroom...so I will give you this one. (Now I have to figure out the words)


73 posted on 09/02/2009 10:37:10 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

bttt


74 posted on 09/02/2009 11:01:55 AM PDT by Jackknife (Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth, and boils his water with his rage)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

There was a video on FR yesterday that showed a black teacher with an obvious bias..she would say things like OH JESUS when a student said they were “pulling” for Mccain. One of the students had a father in Iraq. The teacher was carrying on about how if Mccain was elected her daddy would be there for a hundred years.

In a later interview she tried to whitewash how she handled the questions of the students.

Yes, parents in the US are going to have to be viligant. I would be raising hell if that little white girl was my daughter being told her Daddy would have to stay in Iraq for 100 years.


75 posted on 09/02/2009 1:09:06 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; admin
What are you defending this Nazi-style 0bozo indoctrination of our kids for? First of all, until the era of 0bozo, for previous presidents (Repub or DemoRAT) schools were never named after the president while he was still in office. Until 0bozo however. Secondly, a school song that mentions the name of school as being "Kennedy High" or "Hoover" High or "Martin Luther King" High, or "Reagan High" was just the name of the school, not praising or worshipping or chanting the person's name as if in some type of trance. Thirdly, you tell me the lyrics of Reagan grade school, since you're the one who brought it up? Better yet, just let this stupid back & forth arguing end now. You're a DU troll & moron.

WTH are you doing anyway??? You just can't let this die, can you? You are arguing in favor of Nazi-style 0bozo Hitler youth indoctrination of our kids. You're wrong and you know it. Me thinks you protest too much -- Shakespeare.

Get outa here and go back to DU land. You're nonsensical, irrational and a pest. Leave now. Go to DU land. You will fit right in.They love to praise & worship the 0bozo anti-christ messiah. the in

76 posted on 09/02/2009 2:05:33 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

A DU Troll??? ROFLMAO. You don’t know what the hell you are talking about...I stand by what I said...too bad if you don’t like it.


77 posted on 09/02/2009 2:07:12 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: rcrngroup

By the way, did you notice a school put together a program for Reagan that included a song about Christmas and Santa Claus with Reagan saving Santa Claus with his helicopter?????


78 posted on 09/02/2009 2:08:41 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; admin

You’re a DU troll. GTH outa here!!! You haven’t said anything intelligent so far, other than to argue in favor of Nazi-style 0bozo Hitler youth indoctrination of singing mantras & chants & praises to 0bozo. And you’re equating this to a school song that mentions the name of the president if that is who the school is named after. You stand by what you said, which defends Nazi-style 0bozo Hitler youth indoctrination, which is evil & demented & Orwellian. Leave now DU troll.


79 posted on 09/02/2009 2:12:23 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: RummyChick
Should liberals scream FASCIST for having kids go to the Reagan library and sing the school song and hand out jelly beans, etc.

strawman...

80 posted on 09/02/2009 11:02:52 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I made my later post before seeing yours and said almost the same thing.

i know! now that's kind of weird, too... but not creepy like the Obama praise song...

81 posted on 09/02/2009 11:05:39 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: latina4dubya

Oh really???

And what would you be saying if your kids made up a song about Ramadan and having something saved by Obama’s helicopter to sing when Obama came to visit?

Or your kids had to go visit the Obama library in honor of something being put into the libarary..and sing a song and hand out his favorite candy.

It is not a straw man argument..it is showing the hypocrisy . It is not okay to have things like that done under a Republican president if you don’t want them done under Obama.


82 posted on 09/03/2009 5:21:16 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: rcrngroup

No, I am not. I just look at all sides. Like pointing out over and over and over again the problem with people claiming that Obama shouldn’t be President because he was a UK citizen. He very likely wasn’t. Pointing this out doesn’t make me a DU troll.

Why wouldn’t Donofrio AND OTHERS be willing to look at the law...instead of pretending it doesnt exist.

If someone points it out to Donofrio...he deletes the comment and claims..in essence...your a DU troll. Not those exact words but that’s the essence.


83 posted on 09/03/2009 5:27:24 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Just get off it. You’re defending a socialist-fascist-commie pig usurper, and a Hitler-youth 0bozo indoctrination of our children from K-12. And then you bring another subject re. Donofrio that’s got nothing to do with the post. Put a sock in it. You are a DU troll because you are fanatically continuing to argue & fight in favor of promoting school kids being forced by liberal leftie teachers to sing chants & mantras & praises to 0bozo as the messiah. Why are you promoting the worship & praise of this commie pig bastard by our school kids??? WTH is wrong with you??? You don’t see anything wrong with that??? Don’t answer the question, just GTH outa here and go back to DU land, you troll.


84 posted on 09/03/2009 5:48:13 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

Your kind of post is exactly what gives right wingers a bad rep. Point to me the exact second mark of that video where the kids are saying that Obama is the messiah.

Yes, I have no problem IN CONCEPT with a song for a Presidential visit. That doesn’t make me a DU troll.

Show me EXACTLY the mark in the clip that shows those kids praising Obama as the Messiah.


85 posted on 09/03/2009 5:57:50 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; admin
The chanting in unison singing "0bama", snapping their fingers in unison, other videos showing liberal marxist schoolteachers teaching kids an "0bama, He's going to change the world" song. What is the matter with you? This has never happened before in the history of the United States. Only in totalitarian socialist-fascist-communist countries are school kids organized into Hitler youth or Communist youth brigades and sing praises & adulation to their "leader".

What is the MATTER with you??? Why are you arguing in favor of this??? WTH is the matter with you, that you cannot just drop this??? You are a sick & demented liberal-marxist. In your very first post on this subject, you said "that is some scary stuff", and yet you have been arguing vehemently ever since exactly in favor of 0bama-Hitler style indoctrination of our school kids, that you had said was "scary stuff". Just GTH off of this site. You're arguing for no other reason than to just start & instigate & continue in flame wars. You are a DU TROLL, shilling for your messiah leader 0bama.

cc to Jim Robinson...please revoke RummyChick as she is constantly flaming in favor of Hitler youth style Obama indoctrination of our school kids, and it is now becoming extremely tiresome to see her demented logic & postings & constant harassing & flame wars on this subject.

86 posted on 09/03/2009 8:29:25 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

So you agree then that you are wrong when you say this video has them claiming Obama is their Messiah??

Why not be factually correct instead of making things up?


87 posted on 09/03/2009 8:31:34 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; admin
I don't agree with any of your demented logic or marxist-socialist ideology.

The fact that the video is not actually using the word "Messiah", that makes it ok??? And that the kids are chanting "Obama" in some type of mantra and snapping their fingers, does not make it indoctrination??? Has this ever happened before in America??? No, it has not. Why did you say in your first post, that this was scary stuff and now you have been fanatically defending 0bama youth indoctrination ever since??? As Marx would say, you are a useful idiot to the socialist-fascist-commie pig 0bama. I have never met anyone on this site until you, who is arguing so fanatically in favor of Hitler-Obama style youth indoctrination.

Why are you doing this??? Why are you keeping this stupid dialogue going??? Your a DU troll. Go back to your master and report Mission Accomplished.

You're taking some sort of perverse pleasure out of keeping this ridiculous dialogue going. GTH outa here.

88 posted on 09/03/2009 9:03:41 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Jeff Chandler; RummyChick; admin

Jim Robinson, I see that RummyChick is engaged in flaming with many others in advocating 0bama Hitler youth style of indoctrination of our schools kids. Her goal has no purpose other than to just engage in flame wars. We can agree & disagree on many points, but in this case, RummyChick is basically just engaging in pointless flame wars, while advocating on behalf of 0bama-Hitler style youth indoctrination of our school age kids, K-12. Please revoke her login privileges.


89 posted on 09/03/2009 9:11:08 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

I disagree with your characterization of my beliefs or my posts.

There have been songs about Presidents as long as there have been Presidents.

Here are a few examples to be used in School. And yes, they are “chanting” the President’s name.
http://www.songsforteaching.com/uspresidents.htm


90 posted on 09/03/2009 9:16:08 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; admin

FYI....revoke RummyChick


91 posted on 09/03/2009 9:17:25 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: RummyChick
It is not a straw man argument..it is showing the hypocrisy .

then you do not understand what strawman means... your argument certainly is a strawman... children singing their "school's song" is not the same as singing one specifically praising the President... and if it were the case where children in government school were singing the praises of Ronald Reagan, then yes--i would have a problem with that... that is unAmerican... our allegiance is not to a man, but to our country...

92 posted on 09/03/2009 3:07:54 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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