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Israeli archaeologists find ancient fortification (3700-year-old Canaanite 26-foot tall stone wall)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/2/09 | Jen Thomas - ap

Posted on 09/02/2009 9:11:03 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

JERUSALEM – Archaeologists digging in Jerusalem have uncovered a 3,700-year-old wall that is the oldest example of massive fortifications ever found in the city, the Israel Antiquities Authority said Wednesday.

The 26-foot-high wall is believed to have been part of a protected passage built by ancient Canaanites from a hilltop fortress to a nearby spring that was the city's only water source and vulnerable to marauders.

The discovery marks the first time archaeologists have found such massive construction from before the time of Herod, the ruler behind numerous monumental projects in the city 2,000 years ago, and shows that Jerusalem of the Middle Bronze Age had a powerful population capable of complex building projects, said Ronny Reich, director of the excavation and an archaeology professor at the University of Haifa.

The wall dates to the 17th century B.C., when Jerusalem was a small, fortified enclave controlled by the Canaanites, one of the peoples the Bible says lived in the Holy Land before the Hebrew conquest. The kingdom thought to have been ruled from Jerusalem by the biblical King David is usually dated to at least seven centuries later.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeologists; canaanite; catastrophism; cityofdavid; fortification; godsgravesglyphs; hebrews; israel; israeli; jerusalem

1 posted on 09/02/2009 9:11:04 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Re: Israeli archaeologists find ancient fortification (3700-year-old Canaanite 26-foot tall stone wall)

Okay! If they didn't dig down 26 feet from the top of the wall to the very bottom... Photobucket how the heck did they figure it was 25 feet high?

2 posted on 09/02/2009 9:15:24 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

It’s 79 feet long too. :-)


3 posted on 09/02/2009 9:16:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge
The City of David digs are funded by Elad, a Jewish settler organization that also buys Palestinian homes and brings Jewish families into the neighborhood.

Great idea!

4 posted on 09/02/2009 9:16:36 AM PDT by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Jerusalem Ping


5 posted on 09/02/2009 9:17:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: Quix

Ping


6 posted on 09/02/2009 9:17:47 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Re: It’s 79 feet long too...

Gadzooks! That's a lot of digging! I'd better rest... Photobucket for awhile.

7 posted on 09/02/2009 9:19:08 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

THANKS.


8 posted on 09/02/2009 9:23:39 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: NormsRevenge

But... but... but... didn’t Mohammad build that wall with his own hands? The Muzzies will try to use the discovery to prove that the land rightfully belongs to them. The canaanites were Allah’s buddies or some such nonsense.


9 posted on 09/02/2009 10:01:51 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: NormsRevenge
"The wall dates to the 17th century B.C., when Jerusalem was a small, fortified enclave controlled by the Canaanites, one of the peoples the Bible says lived in the Holy Land before the Hebrew conquest. The kingdom thought to have been ruled from Jerusalem by the biblical King David is usually dated to at least seven centuries later."

So it really belongs to the Canaanities. Any still around? Has Bibi read this yet?

10 posted on 09/02/2009 10:12:59 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: ex-snook

The Canaanites provided a quit claim deed.


11 posted on 09/02/2009 10:29:26 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: NormsRevenge

Looks like a dry wall.

12 posted on 09/02/2009 10:31:16 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Two Kids' Dad
The canaanites were Allah’s buddies or some such nonsense.

Though fitting for cannibals, and various forms of human sacrifice.

13 posted on 09/02/2009 10:44:09 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Bender2

They brought Bob Vila in - ain’t nuthin’ ‘bout walls he don’t know! :-)


14 posted on 09/02/2009 11:55:55 AM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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15 posted on 09/02/2009 5:01:56 PM PDT by SJackson (There is always a need for intoxication: China has opium, Islam hashish, the West woman, Malraux)
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To: onedoug
Though fitting for cannibals, and various forms of human sacrifice.

Yeah, one of the interesting things about the bible, is that the commands about morality--sexual and otherwise--are directly responsive to the way the Canaanites routinely lived.

So all you have to do is think about what Judeo/Christian morality is (no adultery, no incest, no homosexuality, no bestiality, no idols, no human sacrifices, etc.) and the opposite is exactly the way the Canaanites were...

Baal and Asherah, for example the two most popular Canaanite gods, were full brother and sister...AND husband and wife...

An archeologist I knew had a dig in a Canaanite burial ground...for infants given in human sacrifices... Full of pots with tiny charred bones within. Was used for 400 years and had over 100,000 burials there.

Definitely a disgusting culture. No one should wonder why God commanded the Hebrews to wipe them out.

16 posted on 09/02/2009 6:25:44 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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17 posted on 09/02/2009 8:19:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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18 posted on 09/02/2009 8:19:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Paladin2
Looks like a dry wall.

Of course it is. It doesn't rain there much this time of year. ;-)

19 posted on 09/02/2009 10:07:15 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, sitting in the Oval Office, where he ought not...)
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To: AnalogReigns
Baal and Asherah, for example the two most popular Canaanite gods, were full brother and sister...AND husband and wife...

Too bad their "parents" didn't 'pass them through the fire' as infants....

20 posted on 09/02/2009 10:13:50 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, sitting in the Oval Office, where he ought not...)
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To: AnalogReigns
Definitely a disgusting culture. No one should wonder why God commanded the Hebrews to wipe them out.

The Romans felt the same about the Canaanites Carthaginian cousins, who still retained the child sacrifice for religion.

21 posted on 09/03/2009 1:36:55 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: AnalogReigns
Definitely a disgusting culture. No one should wonder why God commanded the Hebrews to wipe them out.

Gosh. Wonder what God will do to a culture that has killed fifty million or more such innocents to serve its own selfish lusts...

22 posted on 09/03/2009 1:55:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can have freedom. You can have socialism. But you can't have both! www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: AnalogReigns
Definitely a disgusting culture. No one should wonder why God commanded the Hebrews to wipe them out.

And today's Palestinians claim to be descended from that culture.

23 posted on 09/03/2009 2:54:19 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

“The canaanites were Allah’s buddies or some such nonsense.”

Given the barabaric nature of the canaanites, this is probably true.

Boiled babies in their mother’s milk, etc.


24 posted on 09/03/2009 7:18:32 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Probably true.

That said, He tends to tolerate a lot if there are just a couple of decent people. And America does have some decent people.


25 posted on 09/03/2009 7:26:22 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Ewww! I had no idea. I guess it was a fortuitous accident to joke about a connection between the two. While not the same, both “societies” are/were cruel, disgusting and vile.


26 posted on 09/03/2009 7:43:09 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Two Kids' Dad

Yeah, bit of trivia, but the Jewish prohibition against mixing dairy and meat comes from this practice.

The Torah specifically provides that a calf not be “boiled in its mother’s milk” because (IMHO) of the Cannanite practices. (Think about that next time you eat veal in cream sauce; I’m barely kosher, but that makes my skin crawl.)

It expanded to all meat and milk to avoid doing this by accident, but also because doing so, just in general, showed a disregard between life and death -— life giving milk being used as agent of death.

It’s a bit of a peak into the foulness that was the Cannanite culture.

People wondering why the early Hebrews were such hardcases forget what they were fighting.


27 posted on 09/03/2009 8:08:26 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: AnalogReigns

Yes. Islaam is definitely an improvement on burning perfectly good children and leaving their bones in a pot. Why, think what excellent suicide bombers the little dears might have made, and how much they would have saved on pottery.


28 posted on 09/03/2009 1:51:03 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: EternalVigilance

The ‘culture’ didn’t. Individuals did.


29 posted on 09/05/2009 7:48:15 AM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: Jewbacca

The babies of the Cannanites did not deserve death.


30 posted on 09/05/2009 7:50:45 AM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: TheFourthMagi
While the ultimate judgment will most certainly be individual, I still believe that God also judges nations.

"I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just." - Thomas Jefferson

31 posted on 09/05/2009 10:56:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can have freedom. You can have socialism. But you can't have both! www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

Silly premise.

Why should the innocent be condemned because of the guilty simply due to being within the same political borders?

There would be nothing whatsoever ‘just’ about that!


32 posted on 09/05/2009 11:01:11 AM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge

Thanks.


33 posted on 09/05/2009 11:58:34 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: TheFourthMagi

G-d disagreed, apparently.


34 posted on 09/08/2009 7:42:34 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: TheFourthMagi

A caveat to my last post, certain Eqyptian children definately did not deserve death, but were killed anyway, as that was a necessary step in obtaining freedom.

(Hence a fast before Passover, in honor of the children who died for their parent’s actions.)


35 posted on 09/08/2009 7:44:39 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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