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Md. Gov. Calls Seasonal Flu Shots a 'Patriotic Duty'
Washpost ^ | 09/02/09 | Aaron C. Davis

Posted on 09/02/2009 10:08:01 PM PDT by freespirited

Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley (D) on Wednesday said it was residents' "patriotic duty" to get seasonal flu shots in coming weeks to make it easier for health officials to determine if outbreaks are related to H1N1, or swine flu.

If residents do not get vaccinated against seasonal strains and later get sickened by them as a result, there will be little way to determine if those falling ill this fall and winter have been infected by less worrisome strains, or by the more contagious H1N1 virus, O'Malley said.

The governor characterized that scenario as serious because it could stress supplies of antiviral treatments and other resources needed to care for swine flu victims, since only those Marylanders sick enough to be hospitalized may undergo tests to confirm the presence of swine flu, state health officials said.

"You'll be doing your patriotic duty to get your seasonal flu shot this year," O'Malley said. If you've never received one, "by golly, this is a very good year to do it for the first time," he said. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: duty; flu; flushot; h1n1; influenza; omalley; patriotic; seasonal; swineflu
"by golly, this is a very good year to do it for the first time," he said.

By golly, I'll be damned if I'm going to take medical advice from a RAT polician.

1 posted on 09/02/2009 10:08:03 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

>Md. Gov. Calls Seasonal Flu Shots a ‘Patriotic Duty’

Yeah, THAT doesn’t set off red flags... [/sarc]


2 posted on 09/02/2009 10:09:54 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: freespirited
By golly, I'll be damned if I'll let ANY 'Rat tell me what 'patriotic duty' is.

As if any of this lot have the first CLUE on that subject.

3 posted on 09/02/2009 10:12:29 PM PDT by SAJ (way too late to 'work within the system'. just about time for rebellion)
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To: freespirited

Ummm, not if it kills me or paralyzes me.........


4 posted on 09/02/2009 10:14:56 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Bacon,smokless powder,and boobs are proof that God loves us.)
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To: freespirited

I think it is their patriotic duty to stand on the front lines in Iraq and/or Afghanistan with our soldiers and take up arms.


5 posted on 09/02/2009 10:15:23 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Normally I would consult a Physician for any Medical advice.

Such as, It’s probably a good Idea to get the Innoculation if you are in one of the High Risk groups.

But Medical Advice from a Politician?

Not so much.


6 posted on 09/02/2009 10:16:00 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: freespirited

OK so does this mean that if I get the flu shot, I won’t have my taxes raised since I’ve already performed my patriotic duty?


7 posted on 09/02/2009 10:17:14 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: freespirited

I think it’s time for the ‘RATS to do their “patriotic duty” and shut the hell up.


8 posted on 09/02/2009 10:17:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: freespirited

wasn’t it Biden who said it was our patriotic duty to pay more taxes? Where’s he been lately—did he volunteer as a guinea pig for this vaccine? just curious...


9 posted on 09/02/2009 10:18:54 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: freespirited
Here is a scenario of what could be :

Government officials and vaccination administrators :
" ok folks, all in single file, now step up , ok, it's painless, no need to know what's in the vaccination shot, just take the MARK " i.e. mark of the beast.
10 posted on 09/02/2009 10:19:28 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: freespirited

Okay, Dem. Senators, Representatives, Governors, White House staff, first family first. Lead by example ya’ll.


11 posted on 09/02/2009 10:22:11 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black.)
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To: freespirited
Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley (D) on Wednesday said it was residents' "patriotic duty" to get seasonal flu shots.....

Maryland Gov O'Malley jails immigration reform patriot

As richly rewarding as it was to witness New York Governor  Eliot Spitzer’s collapse, another larger rat is still scurrying around.

Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley is even more passionately enamored with illegal immigrants and more contemptuous of patriotic Americans.

What’s brought O’Malley’s love affair with illegal aliens into the spotlight is the sad and curious case of Walter Abbott—a small businessman driven out of business by competitors who hired cheap labor immigrants. Abbot is now under home detention pending prosecution for an email protest he sent to O’Malley.

12 posted on 09/02/2009 10:26:08 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: freespirited

then he can go get his shot.


13 posted on 09/02/2009 10:28:59 PM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: freespirited

Only time I have EVER gotten the flu is after a flu shot. 2 for 2 and I said never again.


14 posted on 09/02/2009 10:32:14 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: freespirited

Swine flu? I wish they’d develop a shot to protect Americans from all of the pork in the bills coming out of the District of Corruption. Here piggy, piggy, piggy!


15 posted on 09/02/2009 10:35:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: freespirited
Scroll through this website to find info on H1N1....

http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com/

May I also suggest that you stock up on Sambucus (elderberry extract) Colloidal silver and Oregano Oil before they disappear from the shelves. We have already experienced this virus firsthand (daughter at affected college came home sick) and it really improves the outcome.

You don't want to end up like the folks in this story...

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/Scale+anticipated+pandemic+frightening+Doctor/1955284/story.html

They are having problems in some areas keeping up with the need for ventilators...a serious issue. As an ICU nurse, we rarely used ECMO,(a machine which oxygenates the blood outside the body like a heart bypass for the lungs during which time, the patient is no longer breathing because there is no perfusion of O2 in the lungs) but, this is being required all too often with the “cytokine storm” that fills the airways with massive inflammation....

For an explanation of Cytokine Storm......

http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2009/04/swine_flu_and_deaths_in_health.php

16 posted on 09/02/2009 10:37:48 PM PDT by dianed
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To: freespirited

Sure, I’ll let the government inject me with their high-tech liquid GPS microchip under the guise of a “flu shot”.
Yeah, sure I will.


17 posted on 09/02/2009 10:40:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FlingWingFlyer

RATs patriotic duty would be to resign from political office.


18 posted on 09/02/2009 10:41:44 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: freespirited
Drink the Kool-Aid. It is out of this world!

Md Gov. sounds like a Quack Rat. Don't take the poison unless you want an autoimmune disease.

19 posted on 09/02/2009 10:48:40 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: freespirited

I usually get a flu shot, but I am really nervous about getting a H1N1 flue shot, especially since Obama is basically insisting upon it. Who knows what is in it?


20 posted on 09/02/2009 10:51:38 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: Vicki

I think I am going to pass. To the best of my memory, I have never had the flu and dont want to mess with the first run of the vaccine.


21 posted on 09/02/2009 11:14:46 PM PDT by freespirited (The only thing growing faster than the deficit is Chris Matthews' man crush on Obama -- Tim Pawlenty)
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To: freespirited

I do not rust these guys. If I didnt kow better i think they want to harm people and use it as another crisis. Before the election I think around late September joe Biden
was talking to a group of people how Obama would be tested and he also said something to the fact that Obama would respond to this crisis in such a way that the American people would say NO and Joe said the people would have to trust him. This WH is bad news


22 posted on 09/02/2009 11:19:32 PM PDT by bzybee
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To: dianed
Eventually people will understand what this is about. More and more cases such as this are appearing. Or maybe they won't understand unless someone close to them ends up like that kid. This is bad but its not 1918. So, like 9/11, the deaths could be quickly forgotten by the general public. Didn't affect their life so what was the big deal?
23 posted on 09/03/2009 12:06:34 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: freespirited

I turned down an offer for the flu shot yesterday while at a doctor’s appointment at the Lebanon VA.

My doc said several other vets had also chosen not to take the shot.


24 posted on 09/03/2009 12:15:51 AM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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To: freespirited
Like ANY of the rats are going to take this vaccine themselves.

I will not take the pseudo science government vaccine.

I will get plenty of SAFE and EFFECTIVE natural vitamins and amino acids like Lysine, C, D3, etc instead.

25 posted on 09/03/2009 12:54:36 AM PDT by kara2008 (The Answer to 1984 is 1776 - Restore the Republic)
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To: freespirited

O’Malley has no clue what “patriotic duty” really is.
Apparently, it is a perception thing....


26 posted on 09/03/2009 3:16:10 AM PDT by cranked
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To: freespirited
O'Moron is such an idiot.

Maryland soft heads put this clown into office. Thank the Lord for term limits.

27 posted on 09/03/2009 3:51:52 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: freespirited

Our Maryland church has already been contacted by our county’s Health Department’s Office of Epidemiology and Emergency Preparedness. They want to come and give a “talk” on how to create your own home disaster kit. Apparently September is “National Emergency Preparedness Month.” Along with the brochures on the kit there is also a flyer on getting a flu shot.


28 posted on 09/03/2009 4:48:42 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: freespirited

Hey, Owe’Malley, suck my b*lls.


29 posted on 09/03/2009 11:14:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: SoldierDad

I think it is their patriotic duty to go to Israel and ride around on the buses during the next wave of terrorist attacks.


30 posted on 09/03/2009 11:15:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Oh, I almost forgot...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


31 posted on 09/03/2009 11:18:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ll help them pack their bags for the trip.


32 posted on 09/04/2009 8:03:52 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: freespirited

Since when does a Democrat care about a “patriotic duty”?

Being patriotic - about the country - is anathema to them.

Of course, if it involves Uhbama and a bunch of communists, then, hell, yes.


33 posted on 09/04/2009 9:25:27 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: dianed

Please tell me what no one will:

Why is this flu any worse than any other? Don’t say it’s because it hasn’t been around “before” per se; I’m not interested in that fact or that lots of people get sick.

I want to know why this is treated as if it is some deadly disease. Why is it a big deal?

No one answers that question. Sort of like “why is global warming a big deal?” I honestly don’t know why it’s so scary.


34 posted on 09/04/2009 9:44:16 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
” Why is this flu worse than any other?”

Maybe this will help. Viruses tend to re-assort (mix genetic material) when they coexist in the same vector(in this case, a person). This would become very dangerous in the co-infection with both the H1N1 swine flu virus(which has a .44% mortality rate) and the H5N1 avian flu virus(which has a mortality rate of about 60%). If the new re-assorted virus had a mortality rate of 60%, the mortality rate around the world would be in the BILLIONS.

The fear is, the more vectors (infected people), the more chance for a virus to re-assort. Because H1N1 seems to be easily transmitted and all influenza viruses mutate rapidly.... couple that with a high mortality rate of H5N1 and you have a big problem.

http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/83/16/8131?lookupType=volpage&vol=83&fp=8131&view=short

Presently, there are outbreaks of both viruses simultaneously in Indonesia and Egypt.

35 posted on 09/04/2009 3:39:58 PM PDT by dianed
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To: dianed

So this is the BIRD flu we were supposed to be so scared of a few years ago? THAT’S the real concern? (I’ve never heard much period, much less that worrying about Bird flu getting in there was the big part of it.)

And did you really type 0.44% (zero-point, i.e. <1%) vs 60%?


36 posted on 09/04/2009 8:40:40 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Yes, I did mean .44% which has recently been changed to .98% (due to the virus exploding in developing countries in recent weeks, ex.-India has a 2.3% mortality rate at present)....

http://bmartinmd.com/2009/08/h1n1-death-rate-near-1.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ops/hsc-scen-3_flu-pandemic-deaths.htm

The 1918 flu mortality rate was 2.5% and if it occurred in the US today, with the present population, it would cause the deaths of nearly 2 million people. The 1918 strain was an H1N1 virus and the “mother” of the present strain of swine flu.

There is also a fear that H1N1 will become more virulent even if it does not re-assort with another virus. Scientists believe that this occurred with the 1918 epidemic which is why the WHO is so concerned. The 1918 flu killed the majority of people in October thru Nov.

If you want to read more about H5N1, here is a scary look into the world of viruses....

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Our-Door-Global-Threat/dp/1595580115

37 posted on 09/05/2009 1:56:20 AM PDT by dianed
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To: dianed

Thanks for trying to explain it to me. I’ve not once seen any explanation as to why this is as bad as TB or typhoid fever or any other disease that regularly wreaked mayhem in the past.

I still am trying to understand - you say it’s bad IF the TWO viruses are in 1 body? But what are the chances of getting the Bird Flu? Or are you simply saying that being weak (via Swine) makes one more susceptible to the Bird? Or does it HAVE to be both combined?


38 posted on 09/05/2009 8:25:47 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I want to know why this is treated as if it is some deadly disease. Why is it a big deal?

Perhaps because it is a golden opportunity to (re)introduce the idea of forced quarantine (home detention) for the sick.

39 posted on 09/05/2009 6:02:59 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: dianed

Increased virulence or genetic mixing could occur with ANY flu strain and H5N1. But, for some reason, only H1N1 gets the government’s panties in a bunch. So, I stand by my hypothesis that government could be using the relatively exotic H1N1 as a boogeyman to scare people into accepting bigger government (in this case, in the area of infectious diseases).


40 posted on 09/05/2009 6:08:53 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Quarantine has its place. In the old days, it certainly did. Now I’d imagine it’s only needed for some few select diseases that balloon.


41 posted on 09/05/2009 6:09:30 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
The Regional director of the World Health Organization for South-East Asia said this in the July 2009 address...

“Furthermore, the AI (H5N1), which has been prevailing in our countries, can complicate the situation. Reassortment may also take place due to coinfection of H1N1 and H5N1 viruses. We have, therefore, to be sure that the endemic AI H5N1 in countries of the Region is properly contained.”

http://www.searo.who.int/LinkFiles/RD_Speeches_9July2009THA.pdf

At the present time, H5N1 is NOT easily spread from human to human contact. If it was (ex. reassortment with H1N1), the casualties would be massive as the following article states......

“Influenza viruses keep changing. They mutate. And they exchange genetic material with other flu viruses, a process called reassortment. All that's needed is a mutation or reassortment that produces a new variant of H5N1 one that's as deadly as the current strain but as easily transmitted from human to human as lots of other flu strains. Most virologists believe something like this will happen sooner or later, and many believe it will happen soon. When it does, H5N1 will inevitably spread throughout the world. Worldwide mortality estimates range all the way from 2-7.4 million deaths (the “conservatively low” pandemic influenza calculation of a flu modeling expert at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) to 1 billion deaths (the avian influenza pandemic prediction of one Russian virologist).”

http://www.avianinfluenza.org/mutated-avian-influenza-virus-h5n1.php

The primary reason the avian flu is so deadly is because humans have not acquired any immunity to it through past exposures.

It is similar to the Europeans, unwittingly decimating other cultures during explorations due to the transmission of pathogens to which the native peoples had not previously been exposed.

Here is the CDC timeline for Avian Flu. Scroll down to the last page for information on outbreaks thru July 2009 and pray it never becomes the "worst case scenario".

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/Timeline090727.pdf

42 posted on 09/05/2009 11:16:23 PM PDT by dianed
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
You said.....”...hypothesis that government could be using the relatively exotic H1N1 as a boogeyman to scare people into accepting bigger government....”

I couldn't agree more. This may very well be the chosen “crisis” but, that does not negate the fact that it could devastate the population if a reassortment of H5N1 with any easily transmissible virus occurs.

There are some odd things that have happened recently that are not easily explained.
1. Baxter, a flu vaccine company which is one of the few companies who claimed they could fast track the H1N1 vaccine, sent out avian flu infected SEASONAL flu vaccine in Feb.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aTo3LbhcA75I

2. The scientist who was instrumental in discovering Tamiflu, came out with a statement that H1N1 may very well be a “lab- manufactured” virus. The WHO quickly dismissed his comments.
3. The push to put out a vaccine which will take weeks, and 2-3 doses to be effective, when the virus has already infected large numbers of people without an enormous number of deaths is puzzling.
Any virologist would tell you that there is no guarantee that the vaccine they finally produce will have any effect at all if the virus mutates.

This website will ensure you that there are others skeptical of the hype surrounding the present state of the H1N1 condition....

http://www.legitgov.org/pandemic_pushers_profiteers.pdf

43 posted on 09/05/2009 11:47:58 PM PDT by dianed
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Here is the latest suspected case of a co-infection of the 2 viruses in a pregnant woman reported Sept 4th...

http://birdflucorner.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/bali-avian-flu-outbreak-an-pregnant-woman-dies-of-h1n1-infection/

In the first week of Sept., there was a bit of a panic because a man returning to Egypt from Saudi Arabia was reported to have a co-infection. The authorities in Egypt quickly denied the account.

44 posted on 09/06/2009 1:13:30 AM PDT by dianed
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To: dianed

This still sounds like the main thing we’re worried about is BIRD Flu.

So, why H1N1 Swine Flu any worse than any other flu for recombining?? Is is simply that it hasn’t been around in a while, so people are more susceptible, and thus when infected, more susceptible to the H5N1 Bird?

Or is it simply on the fat chance that 1 catches Bird Flu that it might become highly transmissible?

I’m trying to weigh the risks, here. It seems to me it’s a fat chance to catch the Bird Flu. And it seems to me the Swine Flu in itself isn’t all that horrible.


45 posted on 09/06/2009 9:43:23 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
What I'm most worried about is the Bird flu mix but this article on “Numbers don't tell the Whole Story” will give you some insight into why this flu is more concerning than the regular seasonal flu as it stands right now....

http://afludiary.blogspot.com/2009/09/numbers-dont-tell-whole-story.html

I speak from experience when I say the flu is generally pretty typical in it's clinical presentation. All 5 of us in this family have been infected, one is still presently in recovery. I can also tell you that any numbers they throw around are completely inaccurate.

For Example, University of Kansas told students to stay home and not to come in for testing. Whole sorority and fraternity houses as well as some dorms were completely infected. During “rush” in beginning of Sept, the girls shook 800 prospective sorority “sister's’ hands. It was endemic from that point forward. CNN had a news story on one of those girls at KU being “isolated”...rather pointless at that juncture!

The problem with H1N1 is the TRANSMISSIBILITY rate which appears to be incredibly high. They expect 30-50% of the population in the US to be affected, far more than the regular seasonal flu. Again, more “incubators” to harbor the virus and therefore, more potential for it to combine and potentially more young, healthy kids fatally infected.

Presently H1N1 has completely outstripped all other seasonal flus. If you come down with the flu, chances are at least 95% that it is H1N1. It is transmitted easily, consequently, it has become the 1st virus most people are exposed to. If they become infected with the seasonal flu AFTER contracting H1N1, their immune system has already been activated which will kill the seasonal flu quickly and leave the H1N1 ( which took hold and replicated before the immune system activated)as the only virus left standing. This is why you have almost 100% swine flu infections left infecting people.

http://www.14wfie.com/global/story.asp?s=11029516

Take your Vit D., Canada is presently doing a study to see if Vit D deficiency is the reason why some people, who seem healthy, have increased mortality.

http://www.whale.to/a/cannell.html

46 posted on 09/09/2009 8:42:36 PM PDT by dianed
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