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Baptist Pastor Prays for Obama's Death (Barf Alert)
ktla.com ^ | September 2, 2009 | AP

Posted on 09/03/2009 7:44:37 AM PDT by pillut48

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YUMA, AZ -- Steven Anderson, who ministers at Faithful Word Baptist Church, said he prays for the death of President Barack Obama in a sermon to his congregation.

"I'm not going to pray for his good," Anderson said in the sermon. "I'm going to pray he dies and goes to hell."

The sermon, which was titled "Why I Hate Barack Obama," was also featured on CNN last week due to the nature of its content, and has since been shown on other programs such as Fox News, MSNBC, ABC News and Headline News on Monday.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biblicalilliterate; blindleadingblind; embarrassment; grifter; opportunist; religiouskook
An audio of the sermon from the right-wing pastor is posted on the Faithful Word Baptist Church's Web site.

Yeah, Mr. Journalist, thanks for the LINK to that audio! D'oh. Let me do your job for you:
Faithful Word Baptist Church
August 16th sermon

Interesting. Not EXTREME right wing, but you know, your general right wing Baptist preacher condoning and exhorting violence against the president. ::rolls eyes:: I can't listen to the sermon right this moment, but until I hear the audio, or see an actual video or or read an actual transcript of the actual sermon, I reserve judgment on whether or not this preacher is preaching hate against Obama. For all we know, he quoted the Bible and it's been taken waaaaaaay out of context! >:-(

Also love this little aside where they are trying to link two separate events in a most dire (cue the sinister organ music) way:

Chris Broughton, a 28-year-old Tempe resident who is one of Anderson's parishioners, showed up at an Obama town hall event with an assault rifle and a pistol.

Broughton, however, claimed that he was not planning on using the weapons but was simply exercising his right to bear arms.


All well and good! One can make the assumption that this WHITE preacher is telling his WHITE congregation to go out and KILL HolyO, because, you know, HolyO's a BLACK man in the White House and ALL conservatives are racist and hate HolyO for that simple reason (just ask that extreme left-wing political and sociological expert Janeane Garafalo!), so therefore HolyO must die!--and yet, the AP leaves out one interesting fact about this--Mr. Broughton is a BLACK man who did nothing wrong and was only LEGALLY exercising his 2nd Amendment rights in the state of Arizona!

Chris Broughton speaks out

Glad to find out Chris's name instead of referring to him as "that black guy who threatened Obama by bringing mean, scary guns to a health care rally"--he's got a lot more common sense than the guy in the WH!

And don't forget to listen close to the last statement on the video, LOL! :-) It's true!
1 posted on 09/03/2009 7:44:37 AM PDT by pillut48
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To: pillut48
Same pastor, Related threads:
VIDEO: Pastor, Beaten By Border Police, Tells His Story At Tea Party
Pastor Beaten, Tasered for Defending His Rights ( Border Patrol )
ACTUAL FOOTAGE Pastor Beaten & Tased by Border Patrol & DPS
2 posted on 09/03/2009 7:47:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone! Betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need!)
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To: pillut48

Personally I’d pray for a ‘conversion on the road to Damascus’ type experience for Obama. We are commanded to pray for and love our enemies, not to hate them. If this media report is not a flagrant lie, then this pastor seems to be seriously out line with Scripture.


3 posted on 09/03/2009 7:47:54 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Liberty1970

The way I look at it; you can’t get into heaven unless you are dead. God bless.


4 posted on 09/03/2009 7:54:27 AM PDT by BilLies
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To: pillut48

Ok look at the left making movies about Bush Dieing.


5 posted on 09/03/2009 7:57:29 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Alex Murphy

Sounds like a fruitcake to me.


6 posted on 09/03/2009 7:57:42 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: pillut48

I’m listening while I fold laundry, and so far, this preacher has quoted Bible scripture for these comments—he’s preaching against Obama’s extreme support for abortions of all kinds, and that little snippet has been cut out of the article—he refers to the saline solution used in botched abortions and compares that to slugs melting in the garden—he says he hopes that happens to Obama, then he references Bible verses proving God hates evil doers who have rejected His Word...can’t find any extreme GO KILL OBAMA NOW!!! references at all!

Just the MSM twisting and distorting true statements as usual...attacking Christians and conservatives, same old, same old.


7 posted on 09/03/2009 7:59:18 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Mr Rogers

Doctrinal statement:

1. We believe that the King James Bible is the word of God without error.

11. We believe that homosexuality is a sin and an abomination which God punishes with the death penalty.

I thought all sin separates us from God, and I don’t know if they are referring to the 1611 KJV, or the 1769 (?) correction that is published today...


8 posted on 09/03/2009 8:00:33 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: pillut48
"I'm not going to pray for his good," Anderson said in the sermon. "I'm going to pray he dies and goes to hell."

Not biblical at all.

"I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour. Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." (I Timothy 2:1-4)

"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (II Peter 3:9)

No matter how much we dislike Obama, only a fool who has an insufficiently expansive understanding of hell would wish somebody to go there, especially since God has said that He wants people to repent instead.

This pastor needs to get his heart right with God.

9 posted on 09/03/2009 8:00:55 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Mr Rogers

“HATE SPEECH!! HATE SPEECH!! YOU HATE GAYS AND YOU ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND KILL THEM BECAUSE ‘THE BIBLE SAYS SO’!!!”

/liberal rant off


10 posted on 09/03/2009 8:02:33 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Mr Rogers

Did you actually listen to the sermon, or watch the videos? Just curious.


11 posted on 09/03/2009 8:03:23 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Liberty1970

The preacher clarifies at the beginning of his sermon that he is talking about people who have had opportunity after opportunity to accept God’s Way, yet they arrogantly refuse Him again and again—references to verses saying God will destroy those who refuse Him time and again.

I too would love a Damascus moment for Obama, but has he passed the point of no return, denying God one time too many?
I don’t know the answer to that.


12 posted on 09/03/2009 8:05:36 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48
I smell Media Watch all over this. The same Gestapo tactics used to monitor Rush, Hannity, Levin, Beck, and the rest, waiting and hoping for one slip of the tongue are also now sitting in the pews of Churches across America.

Even churches that most of us would consider very extreme, like the church in the story, or the church, whoever they are that are gathering at public events here in Washington with colorful signs with very provocative slogans. One I saw on a parade route recently said; “God will Kill you is you don't repent”. My jaw dropped as I marched past with a group of Scouts.

13 posted on 09/03/2009 8:11:33 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Did you actually LISTEN to the sermon?

Anderson bases his sermon on scriptures like these:

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

He goes into great detail saying yes, God loved Obama and offered him many opportunities to accept Him and His Way, but despite 20 years in Wright's church, Obama STILL voted to kill babies after botched abortions (his biggest crime according to Anderson)--listen to the sermon. I'm still listening and not a single red flag has gone up for me.
14 posted on 09/03/2009 8:15:16 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: NavyCanDo
I've been attending Baptist churches since my childhood (35+ years) and Anderson is not preaching anything extreme--statements have been taken out of context for sure, all someone has to do is listen to the sermon itself to hear Anderson's intent.

He's NOWHERE in the range of extreme "Christians" like that lunatic Fred Phelps, etc. Anderson backs up almost EVERY statement he makes with a Bible scripture which applies to the statement. No hate speech, just a Christian conservative viewpoint--which we all know has a giant target on it's back that the liberals and lefties are constantly taking aim at!

I think that some good can actually come of this because hopefully people will LISTEN to the sermon and get a good message from the Holy Spirit! Anderson is definitely fired up with righteousness straight from the Bible.
15 posted on 09/03/2009 8:20:58 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48

as a Catholic I think I am only supposed to pray that before having sex (sarc)


16 posted on 09/03/2009 8:22:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pillut48
Hey, they let Rev Wright pray this way for 35 years, so whats the fuss all about???
17 posted on 09/03/2009 8:23:15 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: pillut48
This brother needs to seek the face of YHvH.
as Yah'shua said he is facing Hell fire.
21 "You have heard that the ancients were told, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER '
and 'Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.'

22 "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty
before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,'
shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,'
shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
It very well may be that Obama is being used by YHvH in His plan for the last days.
NAsbU Psalm 118:9 It is better to take refuge in YHvH
Than to trust in princes.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

18 posted on 09/03/2009 8:26:11 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Candor7
Wright doesn't count. He's not a white man sporting a crew cut (the preferred haircut of white right wing gun toting militia extremists you know!) preaching against abortion! Besides, you know the universal rule: BLACKS CAN NOT BE RACIST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK, D'OH!

/sarc
19 posted on 09/03/2009 8:28:44 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Catholics have sex?!?

< runs >

;-)


20 posted on 09/03/2009 8:29:58 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Candor7

Yup

Right!

And its been Obamas racist diet for 20 years!


21 posted on 09/03/2009 8:30:36 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Did you listen to Anderson’s sermon for yourself? Or are you just going by what the article said?


22 posted on 09/03/2009 8:30:45 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ..

Ping to thread where pastor prays for Obama death.Vids and multiple links. Interesting history


23 posted on 09/03/2009 8:30:49 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: pillut48; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ..

Ping to thread where pastor prays for Obama death.Vids and multiple links. Interesting history


24 posted on 09/03/2009 8:31:00 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
This pastor needs to get his heart right with God.

If he did then all those nice TV networks wouldn't pay any attention to him any more. Where's the fun in that.

25 posted on 09/03/2009 8:36:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Candor7

I do not pray for pres Obama’s death... I do pray he will soon have a “Damascus Road Conversion” encounter with God! (Acts 9:4-8)

According to his own admission (Galatians 1:13-14), prior to his conversion to Christianity, (Saul) Paul was a Pharisee who “violently persecuted” the followers of Jesus!


26 posted on 09/03/2009 8:43:16 AM PDT by FiddlePig (truth is hard... lies are easy - http://redneckoblogger.blogspot.com)
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To: pillut48

This pastor is off base. He’s no better than the radicals in obama’s camp. Only he’s on the other end of the spectrum politically.

This pastor needs to brush up on his Bible. It’s one thing to disagree, no matter HOW strongly. But he’s way crossing the line here. He’s stepping over into God’s territory and jurisdiction.

Folks like him give fodder for the left to portray folks like us as wacko right-wing extremists nuts who cling to our guns and religion.


27 posted on 09/03/2009 8:48:06 AM PDT by J40000
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To: pillut48
Did you listen to Anderson’s sermon for yourself? Or are you just going by what the article said?

Yes and this brother seems to be acting in a provocative manner.

He does not seem to trust in Yah'shua.

He seems to lean on his own understanding.

NAsbU Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
And do not lean on your own understanding.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
28 posted on 09/03/2009 8:51:49 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Then ALL Baptist ministers are acting in a ‘provocative’ manner for speaking boldly, IMO! The only thing I disagreed with him about was his take on the Iraq war. Everything else IS backed up by Scripture.


29 posted on 09/03/2009 9:18:25 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: J40000

Again, did you listen to his sermon?


30 posted on 09/03/2009 9:19:12 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48
Then ALL Baptist ministers are acting in a ‘provocative’ manner for speaking boldly, IMO! The only thing I disagreed with him about was his take on the Iraq war. Everything else IS backed up by Scripture.

Do you trust Yah'shua
or do you trust a Baptist minister
for your salvation?

NAsbU Psalm 146:3 Do not trust in princes,
In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
31 posted on 09/03/2009 9:45:52 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

At least you can have sex standing up. The Baptists can’t - it might lead to dancing.


32 posted on 09/03/2009 9:47:20 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: pillut48
He goes into great detail saying yes, God loved Obama and offered him many opportunities to accept Him and His Way, but despite 20 years in Wright's church, Obama STILL voted to kill babies after botched abortions (his biggest crime according to Anderson)--listen to the sermon. I'm still listening and not a single red flag has gone up for me.

I'm aware of that. BUT. The fact that Obama is still alive and vertical indicates that he still is the recipient of mercy from God to be able to trust on Him to salvation. Praying that God will kill someone and send them to hell when God has said He wills to do otherwise is, at best, a fool's errand.

33 posted on 09/03/2009 9:53:09 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: pillut48
How do you read Yah'shua in the following verses ?
43 "You have heard that it was said,
'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
and hate your enemy.'

44 "But I say to you, love your enemies
and pray for those who persecute you,
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

34 posted on 09/03/2009 10:04:23 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: pillut48
Is this preacher preaching Yah'shua the Messiah to his flock?

Matthew 5:43-44

Or is he preaching his own fleshly lust and leading his flock to Satan ?

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

35 posted on 09/03/2009 10:22:50 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: pillut48
For all we know, he quoted the Bible and it's been taken waaaaaaay out of context!

It is being taken out of context - by Anderson. He spends a lot of time arguing why Obama isn't the kind of political leader Paul was saying Christians should pray for (1 Timothy 2:1-2) - as if being a president instead of a king makes a difference to Paul's argument.

Actually this sermon is pretty tame compared to some of the drivel I've seen this man spew. He is an extremist, not because of how the media portrays him in this instance, but in spite of it.

36 posted on 09/03/2009 11:28:44 AM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Slings and Arrows

LOL, touche! :-)


37 posted on 09/03/2009 12:48:53 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: FiddlePig

But do you believe there IS a point at which it is too late to change your mind about accepting God for Who He is?

Or does “Jesus Loves Me, no matter what, so I’ll do whatever I want, even kill millions of innocent babies” rule the day?

Look, y’all, I don’t know this preacher from Adam, but I’m just saying that this particular sermon is not exhorting people like Chris Broughton to run out and kill Obama the way the article portrays it to be. Whether Anderson is right or wrong in the long run, that’s up to God. I just know that the Bible says Jesus will NOT return meek as a lamb, but as a roaring lion and He WILL destroy those who do not follow Him! Which is the point Anderson is trying to make, I think.


38 posted on 09/03/2009 12:52:12 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Are Baptist ministers to ONLY preach on salvation and NOTHING else? I believe they are leaders of their flocks, and they are to teach on all aspects of life, and they are to name names and kick spiritual butt so to speak!

Of course, Jesus and salvation is the centerpoint of Christianity, but even He taught on other subjects many times, especially about the corruption of the Pharisees and Sadducees and scribes who were leaders of Israel back then!


39 posted on 09/03/2009 12:57:27 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Of course, Obama could always change his mind. His actions of the past seem to indicate he won’t...I believe God never gives up HOPE that a person will CHANGE their evil ways, but the Bible clearly indicates there IS a point of no return for those who do not.


40 posted on 09/03/2009 1:03:50 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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