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Georgia Pastor, Father-to-Be Killed in Drug Sting
Fox News/AP ^ | September 4, 2009 | N/A

Posted on 09/04/2009 3:13:57 AM PDT by thecabal

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To: thecabal
So were the drug cops in uniform?

Unless there is some meaning of "plainclothes" I am unaware of, it appears not.

Man shot while fleeing suspected muggers.

61 posted on 09/04/2009 7:43:23 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (War is fought by human beings. - Carl von Clausewitz in On War)
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To: rawhide

Looks like a total menace to society! Good thing those brave officers are out there killing scum like this...


62 posted on 09/04/2009 8:09:55 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

It is disturbing. This is what gives conscientious officers a bad name.


63 posted on 09/05/2009 5:28:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: BnBlFlag; thecabal
One article that I read said they had badges around their necks. When guys with guns come running at you, they actually think you're going to look for a badge that looks like a necklace?

They were sent home with pay. Yippy skippy! At the least, this should cost them their careers.

64 posted on 09/05/2009 5:36:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: thecabal

Saw the video. Murder....


65 posted on 09/05/2009 7:46:39 AM PDT by freebilly ( No wonder all the left has a boner for Obama.... There's "Cialis" in "SoCIALISt")
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To: PAR35
From the vidoe...the agents looked like masked men who could easily have been attempting a car jacking.

Also from the video, one of the agents is definiately limping after the Pastor's car backs up and wheels around.

I believe the pastor thought he was being robbed and tried to get away. The agents did not know that he was a pastor and thought he had backed over one of them in an attempt to flee and so opened fire.

RIP Pastor, God keep your soul and comfort your family, your wife and unborn child. What a horrible mistake and set of circumstances.

66 posted on 09/05/2009 7:49:24 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“If the viseo does show them firing before the car started to move these guys are toast..”

No their not... It’s acceptable, even for many here on FR, for cops to gun down anyone they want without consequence.


67 posted on 09/05/2009 7:51:19 AM PDT by babygene
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To: Jeff Head
Bottom line is the police had no right to go after him.

There is not one shred of evidence he was involved in drug activity much less had done ANYTHING illegal.

68 posted on 09/05/2009 7:59:40 AM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: thecabal

Seems to me that our country needs a secret society that welds out justice in cases like this, since our justice department is unable or unwilling to deal with it.


69 posted on 09/05/2009 8:08:25 AM PDT by babygene
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To: babygene

Yes, sadly, we do have our share of “I am the law” types.


70 posted on 09/05/2009 8:13:42 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: All

http://wneg32.com/
Local NE GA TV station with more info. Haven’t had time to go thru all the articles yet.


71 posted on 09/05/2009 8:34:15 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Green will NEVER be the color of 9/11.)
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To: Politicalmom
I, too am a transplant from California. People in CA. and around the US did not realize how different things are in the South, particularly wonderful Georgia! Diversity has not arrived yet for one thing. Kindness among strangers is alive and well, I am happy to say!

I want to see these "Officers" arrested, go to trial and then spend the rest of their life behind bars.Any money they had coming to them should go to the widow and child of the murdered Pastor.

72 posted on 09/05/2009 12:03:47 PM PDT by tajgirvan ( Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. James 4: 8)
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To: tajgirvan

If you say “How ‘bout them DAWGS!” you are no longer considered a transplant. :-)


73 posted on 09/05/2009 12:26:11 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Green will NEVER be the color of 9/11.)
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To: BnBlFlag
Yep. They didn’t look like Cops to me. More like street thugs.

It's becoming harder and harder to tell the difference between the two.

74 posted on 09/05/2009 12:56:42 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

“How ‘bout them DAWGS!”

LOL !

I still love the Trojans!

75 posted on 09/06/2009 8:24:28 PM PDT by tajgirvan ( Please pray for our brother, Alpha, who is in the hospital. Thank you.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Here's a little more information:

Minister's death leaves grief, questions

Police said undercover officers with a northeast Georgia tri-county drug and prostitution task force followed Ayers to the gas station after he was seen dropping off a woman in town who had twice sold drugs to officers.

While the minister went inside to use the ATM, police said, the officers waited by the pumps in an unmarked black Cadillac Escalade. Once Ayers returned to his car, officers identified themselves and ordered him to open his door, police said. Ayers backed up and sped away while police shot at him twice, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said. Ayers crashed a short distance away and died later following surgery at Stephens County Hospital in Toccoa.

The woman, whose name has not been released, was being held at the Stephens County Jail on charges of cocaine possession and distribution, Bankhead said.

Toccoa resident Joy Guadalupe said the community is confused about what happened. “People don’t know what to believe so they’re drawing their own conclusions,” she said Saturday. “If he didn’t have anything to hide, then why did he run? Was he just spooked?”

His best friend, Adam Gragg, said Ayers was known for helping people that others might shun as sinners because he believed they needed Jesus most.

“He always went to bad places, and he didn’t care what people thought about it,” Gragg’s wife, Brittany, said.

Gragg said he knew Ayers for 10 years. “There’s no way he could have been involved in anything illegal or lived a kind of secret life, and us not know about it.”

Roger Shirley (no relation to the sheriff), head deacon and lifelong member at Shoal Creek, believes his pastor drove the 20 miles to Toccoa to buy tires for his wife’s car, went to the ATM for cash to cover the purchase and was going to pick up his wife, who teaches at Stephens County High School. If he was with a woman, it was someone he was helping, Shirley said.

Questions:
1. Why would the LEOs who were waiting at the pumps for the pastor to come out of the busy Shell station watch him get into his car and THEN approach and ASK HIM TO GET OUT? This makes no sense on the face of it unless there is some scumbag loop-hole lawyer precedent that forces LEOs to do this for some reason. Maybe they can't conduct a car search unless it's done this way? Any cops out there who have a line on this sort of lawyer thing?

2. Why would the pastor drive his own car to pick up tires for his wife's car? This also makes no sense on the face of it. Most tire dealers put the tires on the car, balance them, etc. The explanation would be a little more plausible if the pastor had been driving his wife's car. Was this 20 mile ride the closest place to buy tires? (And BTW, didn't this pastor have a credit card?)

76 posted on 09/07/2009 3:45:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
the officers waited by the pumps in an unmarked black Cadillac Escalade. Once Ayers returned to his car, officers identified themselves and ordered him to open his door, police said. Ayers backed up and sped away while police shot at him twice,

Officers fired upon him for simply running away, because he was in a vehicle with a girl who sold drugs? Being in a vehicle with a felon does not make one a felon, ergo he was not a fleeing felon. Seems like they're over-reaching on allowable use of firearms.

77 posted on 09/07/2009 3:50:03 PM PDT by Teacher317
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Officers fired upon him for simply running away, because he was in a vehicle with a girl who sold drugs?

Well, no... read the story. He recklessly endangered officers on foot when he took off in his car.

78 posted on 09/07/2009 4:10:43 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Didn’t the officers endanger themselves? Plain clothes, jumping out of a vehicle, guns drawn?


79 posted on 09/07/2009 4:12:51 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

This excerpt is from an article posted on the WNEG-TV website on Wednesday morning:

“An investigation is underway into the death of the pastor of a Lavonia church. Jonathan Ayers was shot by a member of the Stephens’ County Sheriff’s Office Tuesday afternoon and died later at Stephens County Hospital.”

“According to Stephens County Sheriff Randy Shirley, the Narcotics Unit of the Stephens County Sheriff’s Office was doing a drug buy at the Shell gas station at the corner of Broad and Currahee Streets.”

“Shirley says an officer shot the person involved in the drug transaction as the suspect fled the scene. The man then ran off the road and hit a tree.”

This next excerpt is from an article posted on the WNEG-TV website later that same day:

“Police are now saying that Jonathon Ayers was not the target of a drug investigation. That contradicts what WNEG was told by police on Tuesday.”

I wish the articles told us when it was learned that the incident had been recorded on video


80 posted on 09/08/2009 8:15:59 PM PDT by KDD ( it's not what people don't know that make them ignorant it's what they know that ain't so.)
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