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Mercury’s Magnetic Field is Young!
CMI ^ | Russell Humphreys, Ph.D.

Posted on 09/04/2009 8:50:36 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: GodGunsGuts
The Temple of Darwin contains many sects that are tax exempt. You might want to start with the Humanist Society, if you’re not a member already.

Huh, I learn something every day. You finally gave me a fact I didn't know! Amazing!

Note: the Humanist Society, an apparently hippie-dippy group I knew nothing about until 4 minutes ago, is recognized by the U.S. Internal Revenue Service as a nonprofit, tax exempt, 501 (c)(3), publicly supported educational organization.

I did not see anywhere on their site, however, any references to the next Temple of Darwin meeting.
151 posted on 09/04/2009 12:41:34 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: StolarStorm

God calls those he chooses, so if people are being turned off by the truth, because they believe in the science of Man more than the word of God, that is because this is the history God has chosen for our time.

I imagine if our modern-day scientists had lived in the time of Moses, they would have explained how impossible the exodus was, much less the idea that bread would just fall out of the sky, or that stone tablets would magically have words appear on them.


152 posted on 09/04/2009 12:42:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ira_Louvin

That means alot coming from a phony like yourself. Tell me, Ira, what branch of the service did you serve in?


153 posted on 09/04/2009 12:44:33 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream
Last Thursdayism small g god as a deceiver bump.

I'm convinced half these guys worship Loki or Coyote. I can't think of any other explanation for all the tricks that have been played on us, i.e, giving the earth and cosmos and everything within it the appearance of old age.
154 posted on 09/04/2009 12:46:44 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: whattajoke

http://www.americanhumanist.org/news/details/2009-02-humanists-take-lead-in-darwin-day-celebration


155 posted on 09/04/2009 12:46:55 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Pox; GodGunsGuts
It is important to remember who it was who made the first condescending comment:

POX:Honestly, you and yours need to have your heads examined, IMO.

If you come onto a thread, post no actual data to support your position, and tell the other side they need their heads examined, you should expect that someone on the other side might suggest you do the same.

Of course, it's not like anybody comes to these threads with evidence, they are all instead armed with ready-made trash-talk and hate speech.

156 posted on 09/04/2009 12:47:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: GodGunsGuts

I know where the Mormon Temple is. I known where my local Jewish Temple is. I know where the Temple on the Mount is and where Temple University is and where the temple on my head is.

Where is the Temple of Darwin?

(And again, thanks. I am learning about the humanists. Well-intentioned fools that they are.)


157 posted on 09/04/2009 12:50:42 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: whattajoke

As well as the admission that any estimate of a young earth is absolutely of no use to the scientific method as the results will always show ‘the appearance’ of great age.

Fine. The world may well “really” be only six thousand years old, or six days, or six hours old. But do NOT try to include those numbers in your calculations, as they are of absolutely no real use (other than ‘knowing’ it is true). Only estimates of great age are of any use in scientific analysis.


158 posted on 09/04/2009 12:52:02 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It tried to point that out earlier, but I got no response. Apparently, it's ok to insult your opponent if they're a creationist because the high priests of the Temple of Darwin like Richard Dawkins have told the evo-faithful it's justified.
159 posted on 09/04/2009 12:53:07 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I imagine if our modern-day scientists had lived in the time of Moses, they would have explained how impossible the exodus was, much less the idea that bread would just fall out of the sky, or that stone tablets would magically have words appear on them.

I imagine you are partially correct. However, they would not "have explained" impossible things, they'd simply have asked for evidence that those events occurred. That's a BIG difference. And, I also imagine many, many people in Moses' day had the same doubts, hence, the world wasn't instantly converted to Judaism immediately.

BTW, Joseph Smith found some magical tablets in New York with a magical text on it. And that was far more recent. Why don't you believe him?
160 posted on 09/04/2009 12:53:18 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: UCANSEE2
“Did GOD tell Rev. Wright to say “God Damn America”?”
I don't find it likely, especially coming from a guy like Mr. Wright.

“On what ‘day’ did God separate the darkness from the light?”
When you are God, you can define a day to have the duration of a single rotation of a planet that does not exist yet.
161 posted on 09/04/2009 12:54:18 PM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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To: allmendream

Pfffth. (IYGD)


162 posted on 09/04/2009 12:55:20 PM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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To: Fichori

What is this “yet” concept? :)


163 posted on 09/04/2009 12:56:34 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: whattajoke

Well intentioned fools? Yes and no. They’re fools for saying there is no God, but you have to hand it to them for at least figuring out that materialist evolution stems from a religious point of view that deserves tax exempt status.


164 posted on 09/04/2009 12:57:29 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
by "well-intentioned" I meant that they see a world full of "happy humans" all skipping thru the tulips. it's a nice thought, you must admit.

They just don't believe in YOUR god, just as you don't believe in billions of other peoples' gods. Same diff.
165 posted on 09/04/2009 12:59:30 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: MrB
“Adam was created as an adult human.
Extrapolate, with omnipotence, to the entire universe.”
Yeah, but, but, but...

THAT TAKES FAITH!

Its a lot easier to believe in things that 'scientist' claim are 'proven fact', like global warming.
166 posted on 09/04/2009 12:59:36 PM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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To: Fichori
And to clarify, this is what I meant by God speaking to someone.

Thanks.

167 posted on 09/04/2009 1:04:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: Fichori
As far as that goes, you have faith that it didn't. You have faith in your interpretation of what you call evidence that you claim establishes the factualness of an age which you assert is that of the Earth.

And isn't that what the real issue is on these threads?

Faith vs. Science?

168 posted on 09/04/2009 1:07:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: whattajoke

Getting off topic, but the reason everybody didn’t accept or believe what they could see in Moses’ day is because God hardened their hearts.

Remember that Pharoah was ready to let the people go, before God had completed the punishments. God hardened his heart, essentially forcing Pharoah to oppose him, so that God’s plan would be fulfilled.

Hebrews explains that we, as His creation, have no right to expect an explanation as to why God would choose to create some people simply to force them to a life which ends in hell, while He creates others who He, through his Own good pleasure, not by anything we do, chooses to bring into a saving relationship.

We obviously exist, so we ask why. Scientists, who must explain things on the basis that there is nothing supernatural, must find an explanation that supposes there is no creation. Creation itself would be outside the scope of science, so if Creation is in fact the truth, at best Science would have no explanation at all for how we are here, and at worst would have found some set of scientific observations that could be shaped into a theory to explain our presense.

If the 2nd is true, then you would expect that new discoveries would upset the story, but that given time the scientists could work any new discovery into their existing story, just as you can write software that successfully predicts things like the stock market observed up to the present time, simply by finding the equations that yield all the current observations, even though the program might fail on the next big change (at which point you could “fix” the program).

SO the problem a believer has is this: does Science show there is no creator BECAUSE there is no creator, or because Science must of necessity assume there is no creator and is simply yielding the result of the assumption?

Intelligent Design is an attempt to cross the bridge between science and the supernatural, but it fails, because even if there is an Intelligent Designer, science can no more postulate or show that than it can a creator.

99% of the fights we have could be avoided if we simply stopped teaching the mythology of origins (which is a history lesson anyway) in our science classes. Teach the actual mechanisms of evolution that we can observe — they are clearly science. Teach the implications of that theory, and show kids how to use the theory to make predictions and speculate about the past.

But stop teaching history in science class. Nobody KNOWS what happened at the origin of the universe, or if there is even such a thing. IT is all speculation.

It’s not like we couldn’t fill every hour of every high-school science class with hard science, or that our students are already so well-versed in true science that they need a break from it with mythology.

And if you stop teaching origins, nobody will argue to teach intelligent design, because they won’t have to balance one story with another.


169 posted on 09/04/2009 1:12:03 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I imagine if our modern-day scientists had lived in the time of Moses, they would have explained how impossible ...

it is that rays from the center of the galaxy cause the rain to fall, or that campfires cause the planet to overheat, or that we are made up of things called "charm, strange, quarks, gluons".

170 posted on 09/04/2009 1:14:43 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Of course, it's not like anybody comes to these threads with evidence,

LOL!

171 posted on 09/04/2009 1:16:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: UCANSEE2
“And isn't that what the real issue is on these threads?

Faith vs. Science?”
No, its Faith vs. faith.

Science is just a tool, but the use thereof requires having faith in the philosophical assumption upon which science is built.


172 posted on 09/04/2009 1:18:30 PM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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To: Fichori
you can define a day to have the duration of a single rotation of a planet that does not exist yet.

That's pretty much a standard all over the entire Universe, and was from 'day one'.

Problem is, the 'length' of the day is radically different for each planet. Even in our own solar system.

173 posted on 09/04/2009 1:21:31 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Well said.


174 posted on 09/04/2009 1:21:49 PM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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To: Fichori
No, its Faith vs. faith.

Hmmmmmm........

I would have to agree with you there.

175 posted on 09/04/2009 1:26:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Nobody KNOWS what happened at the origin of the universe, or if there is even such a thing.

Yet we continue to try and find the size and center of an 'infinite' Universe.

It does keep scientists 'employeed'.

176 posted on 09/04/2009 1:29:58 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: UCANSEE2
“Problem is, the 'length' of the day is radically different for each planet. Even in our own solar system.” [excerpt]
God didn't say Six Martian days.

Methinks the mole in thy yard hath pushed up an Everest or two.
177 posted on 09/04/2009 1:36:05 PM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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To: GodGunsGuts
In looking the first graph labeled “Mercury” if one follows the sloping line it would seem to indicate that Mercury's magnetic field should disappear entirely within a few hundred years.

But since the left hand scale is showing a exponential scale while the bottom is years in a linear scale.

Well, you see what I mean? According to the graph the lose of field would be extremely large, say 90% of total, during the first 2000 years or so of the planet's existence.

Does Humphreys or anyone else offer a mechanism by which that could occur?

178 posted on 09/04/2009 1:38:19 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: nuke rocketeer
No kidding.

Magnetic field decay also is not linear.

Not only that, but last time I checked, one real datapoint didn't make a trend.

179 posted on 09/04/2009 1:38:48 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: IonInsights

YOU are the circus!

You avowed ignorance is in the center ring.


180 posted on 09/04/2009 1:42:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Restore

What draws all you idiots to these threads?

If you don’t like reality, keep the dog poop caked on your eyes and just shut up!


181 posted on 09/04/2009 1:44:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Paradox

So now you’re up to Humphreys’ level?

Dream!


182 posted on 09/04/2009 1:45:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You can’t remember whether you wiped your face or your tuche.


183 posted on 09/04/2009 1:46:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Some Christian!

Accepts humanist ignorance over God’s word.


184 posted on 09/04/2009 1:48:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: DManA

When you become a division manager at a national lab, you can have your say, for a few minutes anyway.


185 posted on 09/04/2009 1:53:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Where was Mercury’s magnetic field mentioned in the Bible?


186 posted on 09/04/2009 1:56:11 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
99% of the fights we have could be avoided if we simply stopped teaching the mythology of origins (which is a history lesson anyway) in our science classes.

The liberals will never stop teaching philosophical speculations of origins, under the guise of science, because their primary goal is to promote their secular religion, or their religio-philosophical world view by force in the Big Government Public School monopoly.

I think everyone must understand that the liberals and the far left have everything at stake in their attack upon traditional American culture, especially the conserverative Judeo/Christian religious culture.

187 posted on 09/04/2009 1:56:38 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: nuke rocketeer
"Magnetic fields wax and wane, even on Earth as shown by rock evidence of fossil magnetic fields over millions of years."

Great one-liner; when are you going to add it to your act?

188 posted on 09/04/2009 1:57:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
A couple have already said they try to be spoilers or disruptor's but I think it's also like a child across the street calling names knowing you can only call back instead of going over and washing his mouth out with soap or applying a strop to his backside.
189 posted on 09/04/2009 2:00:42 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: StolarStorm
No it doesn't. Bad translation. "Day" was "period of time".

Sorry, no! Yom is defined by context. In this case, the use of evening and morning clarifies the rotational day.

190 posted on 09/04/2009 2:02:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts
The great evolutionist Bill Maher is no more fanatical about attacking the Bible than the few, loud, arrogant closet leftists on Free Republic.

Love of sin, selfishness, and the fear of man's arrogant opinions will drive many to mock sin, mock God and attack those who still favor and cherish the traditional American biblical culture.

All leftists attack the traditional American biblical culture.

191 posted on 09/04/2009 2:04:51 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: StolarStorm
"Oh, BTW, I was almost one of these lost souls...

You did much better than 'almost,' you made it!

192 posted on 09/04/2009 2:08:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: UCANSEE2; Fichori
"So, back in Moses' time, a day was exactly 24 hours long?
Did Moses have a watch?

At the judgement seat, you'll have an opportunity to give answers to lots of questions, I'm sure!

193 posted on 09/04/2009 2:13:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: whattajoke
"Where is the Temple of Darwin?"

Between the temples of those that worship Darwin.

194 posted on 09/04/2009 2:17:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You are avoiding my question. What was your unit and service record?

I never have claimed to have served in the armed services.

And I am no phony; I do not hide behind silly, and childish rhetoric.

I also at least have a understanding of basic science unlike yourself.


195 posted on 09/04/2009 2:17:52 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Pox

What does any of this have to do with the GOP?


196 posted on 09/04/2009 2:24:02 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Are strawmen good sex? - They must be the way you keep hugging them.


197 posted on 09/04/2009 2:24:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
So Mercury’s magnetic field was not mentioned in the Bible.

Thanks.

198 posted on 09/04/2009 2:25:30 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Fichori

Oh no, global warming is proof that scientists will lie about science for political or economic gain.

But no scientist would ever make up anything about evolution simply because they don’t want to confront their own mortality and eternal damnation.

:-)


199 posted on 09/04/2009 2:29:28 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ira_Louvin
So you never actually served yourself, but you are willing to ride in on your grandfathers bloodstained coattails to give yourself an ill-gotten advantage. I wish I could use the words that are burning a whole in my mind to describe you behavior, but it would probably get me banned. Let's just say I consider the question of whether or not you were adopted to be completely settled.
200 posted on 09/04/2009 2:32:39 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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