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Islam vs America ..... by the numbers
Free Republic | 9/5/09 | One Vike

Posted on 09/05/2009 7:14:51 PM PDT by OneVike

I thought of a way to write this to really get everyone's attention, but the more I contemplated the words I should use, the more I realized that sometimes words just get in the way.

If the facts in this video do not haunt you into action, well then quite frankly no words I can come up with will..........................Because if we do not wake up

the numbers in this video will become reality for our children



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: americans; birthrate; borders; crime; crushislam; immigration; islam; islamamerica; muslim; obama; politics; sharia; socialism; stealthjihad; us; video; war; wot
When will we as a nation say enough already?

I read the end of the Book , I fear there is not enough of us left to even care.

1 posted on 09/05/2009 7:14:51 PM PDT by OneVike
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To: Alex Murphy; Hanna548; jblann1; SendShaqtoIraq; ChicagahAl; SandRat; mia; HiTech RedNeck; ...

Important video we need to all see, then pass on the information.

End times Ping, at least it could be for the America we still know.


2 posted on 09/05/2009 7:17:21 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
Muslims are reproducing like rabbits.

In the west, we can't push abortion enough.

Numbers alone will get us. Also we are not trying to convert them to Christianity. Instead we have this magical idea that we can “respect each other” and “get along” with diabolically opposing beliefs.

3 posted on 09/05/2009 7:20:41 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: OneVike

We are cowed by a couple percent of the population on religious grounds then 12% is stealing trillions in welfare and again demanding we bow down. The joke is if you look at where they came from it is a disaster of their own making.


4 posted on 09/05/2009 7:25:01 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: ImaTexan

PIng


5 posted on 09/05/2009 7:25:23 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: OneVike

Here’s the problem with that kind of ‘by the numbers’ analysis.

Islam isn’t hereditary.

It’s like I tell folks who insist that conservatives have the advantage because they have more children.

Conservatism isn’t hereditary.

Thankfully, neither is modern liberalism.

It seems to me that growing numbers of Muslims in Europe run the serious risk of growing fat and stoned, like the natives.

It’s too complex a dynamic to reduce to strictly a numerical analysis.


6 posted on 09/05/2009 7:29:53 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant
What you fail to realize, its that the Muslims force their belief on their children. If their children do not follow them they KILL THEM,. With fear like that they can gain a lot more ground than you think.

When was the last time you saw Americans forcing by threat of death their beleifs on their children?
7 posted on 09/05/2009 7:36:33 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Oh I realize that. I just don’t think when surrounded by the comforts of western living, and its excesses, that kind of zealotry won’t stick. It’s probably peaking now.

Our cultural sins may end up saving us.


8 posted on 09/05/2009 7:39:16 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: OneVike

More targets.

Just stay sharpened on your marksmanship and stock plenty of ammo. Better to go out out on your feet fighting than on your knees with your head rolling across the ground!


9 posted on 09/05/2009 7:39:27 PM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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To: Ted Grant

Good point, however, when all else fails and since Islam is a military and quasi-political movement that camouflages itself as a religion. Where the numbers and compliance are not ubiquitous; brut force is applied. History has proven this time and time again, yet, this time we are helping them, through pop-culture and open abortion practices.


10 posted on 09/05/2009 7:41:04 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Ted Grant

Yea, your right, it could never happen here.

Besides if it does we will just shoot them.

By the way,

Have you noticed how many places require you to ask for English or Spanish when you call for information about something in AMERICA?


11 posted on 09/05/2009 7:45:19 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Ted Grant
Our cultural sins may end up saving us.

I am not convinced of this. Islam has a great immune system against decadence. They kill apostates. And such "honor" killing is on the rise in Europe and here in America.

There will always be at least a minority who really beleive what Mohammed said. And they will be backed up by the accepted scripture of Islam when they force their neighbor to submit.

12 posted on 09/05/2009 8:07:28 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: OneVike

God (that is, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) will have the last word, and Islam will cease to exist.


13 posted on 09/05/2009 8:22:27 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Ted Grant
Have any highly Muslim countries ever switched to another religion? ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
14 posted on 09/05/2009 8:45:31 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: beethovenfan

In due time my brother, all in God’s due time.


15 posted on 09/05/2009 8:45:53 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: nmh

Don’t fear. If another incident like 9/11 happens agian and it is by their hand, what happened to the Japanese in WWII, will look like day camp. Knowing how they will treat every Christian and Jew, will just make the revenge far worse and justified.


16 posted on 09/05/2009 8:47:55 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: Ted Grant
It seems to me that growing numbers of Muslims in Europe run the serious risk of growing fat and stoned, like the natives. It’s too complex a dynamic to reduce to strictly a numerical analysis.

This has nothing to do with your point, but an oddity about Islam is that no matter how absorbed they become or how apathetic and indifferent to their religion.

There will always be some young Muslims that will be true believers and when they pick up Mohammad's "Holy" book they will see that to be a true believer they need to start killing. The Mohammedan Death Cult will exist until the end of time and there will always be international Islamic terrorism because it is in "The Book".

17 posted on 09/05/2009 8:50:06 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: OneVike

Is this your video? Very well done and scary as shiite.


18 posted on 09/05/2009 8:52:46 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: OneVike

Who is the guy who made that video? Anyone know?

I tried to find out, but his web is in Arabic.


19 posted on 09/05/2009 9:20:57 PM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: OneVike

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 09/05/2009 9:46:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: cameraeye

>>If another incident like 9/11 happens agian and it is by their hand, what happened to the Japanese in WWII, will look like day camp.<<

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Not so. During WWII, America was united, more patriotic, and its demographics were entirely different than it currently is. Within today’s multicultural society there are numerous groups of “Americans” who will never integrate, have no desire to do so, and who are here just to make a buck. In the event of another 9/11, these will only shrug their shoulders and hope they will keep their jobs.

Then, during the next State of the Union address, the president will claim again that Islam is a ROP and all congress critters will rise from their seats and dutifully applaud that statement. Case closed.

Then they will build more wash basins and prayer rooms using public money hoping that this will appease the Muslims. If necessary, they will apologize for any citizen who looked at a Muslim, cross-eyed.


21 posted on 09/05/2009 9:50:17 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: nmh
Numbers alone will get us. Also we are not trying to convert them to Christianity. Instead we have this magical idea that we can “respect each other” and “get along” with diabolically opposing beliefs.

Islam diabollically opposes every other belief system.

The more people "cling" to their religion, the more Islamist hates them.

Hmmm...

22 posted on 09/05/2009 11:49:09 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: cameraeye

The muzzies won’t pull another 9/11 because they are winning by using the tools of democracy against us. “Inclusiveness” and “tolerance” and “multiculturalism” are allowing them to encroach upon our traditions, customs, laws and communities. They are winning without firing more shots.


23 posted on 09/06/2009 1:06:02 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: KarenMarie; Eagles6

No, it is not made by me, and I do not know who made it. It was emailed to me by a friend. The numbers though are irrefutable. If I find out I will give you a heads up though, and I would appreciate the same from you.

I am right now working on an article that will have many of these statistics in it. It is really sad that only 640 freepers even decided to read the post, and my guess is less than 10% probably took the time to watch the video. That is why I am going write an article, more people would actually read the numbers before they would watch the video.


24 posted on 09/06/2009 5:58:59 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I have passed it on and will continue to do so. This is a cast iron skillet up side the head. It unequivocally and irrefutably spells out the end of Western civilization.


25 posted on 09/06/2009 6:08:12 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: OneVike

We are losing this war and the way things are going Muslims will not have to fire another shot to takeover.


26 posted on 09/06/2009 8:23:49 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: ntmxx
History has proven this time and time again, yet, this time we are helping them, through pop-culture and open abortion practices.

I'm not suggesting helping them. I'm just saying that folks who reduce this to demographics (with little regard for other dynamics) are simplifying the issue too much and drawing dubious conclusions.

27 posted on 09/06/2009 8:55:26 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: AndyTheBear
I am not convinced of this. Islam has a great immune system against decadence.

That's because they have largely remained in insular countries and cultures, where the decadence was not part of daily, mainstream life.

In the west, it is part of daily mainstream life.

True, there will be those who hate us more because of it. But most will succumb to its temptations, probably in short time. The promise of 72 virgins for blissful sexual frolic isn't so appealing when the slutty girl who lives down the street is giving it away for free.

28 posted on 09/06/2009 8:58:08 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: tbw2
Have any highly Muslim countries ever switched to another religion?

No, but I'm talking about Muslims born and bred in the west. In their home countries they benefit from decadence being repressed. They won't find that problem over here, where decadence is celebrated. It's irresistible. Most will fall to it, like the natives did.

29 posted on 09/06/2009 8:59:25 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: ansel12

There will always be a minority who get nutty, yes. But my point is that the overall majority that grow up in a western environment will get fat and stoned, just like the natives did.

They will inevitably sit in front of their televisions and get hypnotized by reality shows, essentially softcore porn on non-porn channels, fast food, and drugs & other means of escape.

That’s exactly my point. It’s probably happening already. Honor killings are on the rise precisely because the next generation want to be more assimilated in their culture - enjoy insubstantial fetishes, dating outside of their race and religion, casual sex, porn, etc.

Why underestimate the power of our rotten culture to corrupt even devout people?


30 posted on 09/06/2009 9:03:41 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant; tbw2; AndyTheBear

You aren’t making a case at all, you are only attacking Christian civilization over and over.

You have 1400 years of Islamic history to work with since it sprang from one man’s imagination, Islam appears to only absorb cultures, it is never absorbed by them.


31 posted on 09/06/2009 9:34:32 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

The case I am making is that Muslims growing up in a western culture will likely succumb to the same temptations that attacked those before him.

It’s not at attack on Christian nations - it’s just looking at western culture in 2009 and drawing a meaningful conclusion.

Denial ain’t a river in Egypt.


32 posted on 09/06/2009 9:37:20 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant; tbw2; AndyTheBear

You aren’t making any case whatsoever, 1400 years of global history contradicts you, until you have something factual to say, you are wasting your time.

Islam has been dealing with western culture for that entire 1400 years and it only makes gains, it is like rust, it never sleeps. Sometimes it makes great leaps and sometimes it has to settle for slow steady growth but it is always eating at the new host and Europe and it’s western civilization is a living example, Islam advances, it never grows tired and dissipates.


33 posted on 09/06/2009 9:50:59 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Islam hasn’t had a 1400 year old history of growing up in a modern, permissive culture. I have no idea why you keep repeating this morsel of info, as it isn’t probative to the current situation at all.


34 posted on 09/06/2009 9:53:57 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant

Yes it does, do you think that modern, permissive culture was invented in America 50 years ago?

Look you have some inane personal opinion and we are all very happy for you but you already told it to us.


35 posted on 09/06/2009 9:58:31 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Invented in America 50 years ago? No.

Really prominent in 2009? Yes.


36 posted on 09/06/2009 10:00:14 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: nutmeg; firebrand; Clemenza; rmlew; Yehuda; PARodrig; neverdem

ping


37 posted on 09/06/2009 11:44:39 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: OneVike

That particular link leads to a site that is in arabic as far as i can tell. using google translate does not help me, although someone else might find it useful.

A youtube.com search of: MUSLIM DEMOGRAPHICS will show that numerous other ppl also posted the same video.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=islam+demographics&search_type=&aq=f

All seem to have a religious background, calling for action.

Very interesting video and I wholly believe the validity of information contained therein. I have showed it to the b/f and gave him what search words to put in youtube so he can do it at work with the ... countless... drivers that work there. I give him a lot of stuff printed out to hang at work and he has a lot of the drivers asking him questions... I do the research, explain it to him and he passes it on. That is the best I can do right now. So, keep it coming, you guys!

:D


38 posted on 09/06/2009 1:30:22 PM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: Ted Grant
The case I am making is that Muslims growing up in a western culture will likely succumb to the same temptations that attacked those before him.

I'm no expert on demographics in Europe, but from what I gather Muslims are not melting in, but are forming growing communities that are separate and at odds with the main culture.

I have heard there ere are neighborhoods in Chicago where non-Muslims don't go except for cops. And even they have been asked not to eat or drink during day light hours during Ramadan...while patrolling these neighborhoods.

I recall news coverage of the riots in France a few years ago. My understanding was the rioters were coming from very segregated Muslim communities which are impoverished and hostile to outsiders.

Seems these communities are expanding rapidly, not shrinking (if you have heard of any shrinking let me know)

It also seems the local laws and customs are being changed more and more to accommodate them. With many European countries adapting parts of Sharia law in regard to Muslims. For example in England I've heard a man can have more than one wife, provided he is Muslim (and if I understood correctly, that he can get more than one welfare check...one for each wife).

So let us consider how this works. Some Muslims are indeed assimilated, but a growing number are not. Those that are assimilated adopt Western norms and have smaller families. Those that are not assimilated reside in growing communities hostile to the outside and have larger families. And the Western governments change policy to accommodate these communities, respecting their rights of free association and preferences for a culture that is dead set against overthrowing such egalatarianism.

39 posted on 09/06/2009 2:21:57 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Ted Grant

“...I’m just saying that folks who reduce this to demographics”

Yes, thank you and you are correct. Too many, fall for the lie that there are 1.2B Islamists out there and the world is a minority in comparison.

However, what the sneaks, cheats and liars in Government, “Friends of Government” and Media fail to promote is factual information, such as there are well over 1.4B Christians around the world and that the there are and may be only 5.5-6M Islamists here in the U.S. There are some who say or repeat (generally the stupid ones) the U.S. is “one of the Largest Muslim Countries in the World” this is not true what so ever, and could only make that argument if ranking countries as 1-160 per population; run the numbers. America is not a Muslim country or one which derives any historical value from the “filth of Islam.”

Further, what these charlatans do not say is that most peoples from the Middle East and around the globe are not all Islamists. That the way Islam is set up, people are categorized or forced to participate due to doctrine as Muslim, if born in those places or the father was categorized as Muslim. Many people acquire a new birth certificate (I am not making any specific argument here in this regard) so they will not be seen as born Muslim or have been converted. The Islamist believer has a nice racket, if Muslim you have to submit and participate (even to keeping you mouth shut) or you will be killed; hence the image of “Sword in one hand and the Koran” in the other as the reminder to all.


40 posted on 09/06/2009 3:35:37 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: AndyTheBear

Who’s talking about assimilation? I just expect them to fall to the same temptations that fell Christians and Jews in Europe.


41 posted on 09/06/2009 4:35:04 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: ntmxx

I agree. And never forget or discount human nature. Islam isn’t invincible.


42 posted on 09/06/2009 4:36:17 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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