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LA Times: Calls to boycott Obama's speech to kids offer a disturbing lesson in paranoia
Los Angeles Times ^ | 9/5/2009 | Tim Rutten

Posted on 09/05/2009 7:42:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Those who are whipping up hysteria over the president's address are playing a dangerous game with an unhinged segment of public opinion.

While it long ago crossed the borders of reason and civility, the hysteria over healthcare reform is -- at some level -- understandable, because wellness and infirmity are really just stand-ins for those most terrifying of issues, life and death.

But there is no similar way to rationalize the bizarre controversy now raging over President Obama's plan to deliver a brief televised address on Tuesday to the nation's grammar school children.

According to Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, Obama will "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Sounds innocuous. Who, after all, could be against good study habits, personal responsibility and productive lives? As it turns out, quite a number of people who seem to believe that Obama intends to induct their children into -- well, it's not quite clear what they're afraid of. The Web and talk radio are abuzz with various attempts to organize a boycott of Tuesday's speech. One group is urging parents to demand that their children be excused from watching the president and be sent instead to the school library to read the Founding Fathers. (The theory, one supposes, is that a good dose of the Federalist Papers will inoculate the young against Obama's attempts to subvert the republic through good grades.)

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arneduncan; arth; bho44; bhoeducation; bhospeech; birthers; certifigate; conservatives; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; obamaschooladdress; paranoia; speech
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1 posted on 09/05/2009 7:42:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Show me the original draft. Heck, thrown in the BC while you are at it, LAT.


2 posted on 09/05/2009 7:46:12 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: SeekAndFind

The LA Times can’t see the Kenyan doing cult building because they’re already Obamabots.

Snap out of it!


3 posted on 09/05/2009 7:46:40 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey LA Slimes, still waiting for you to release that tape of Obama toasting Rashid Khalidi, it’s been what, almost a year, still waiting patiently...waiting...waiting...


4 posted on 09/05/2009 7:47:14 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind
Sounds innocuous.

Yeah, and they lie. The lesson plans asked about how students could be challenged to help Obama (before a "paranoid" public caused him to pull that part.)

5 posted on 09/05/2009 7:47:55 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are always one genocide away from Utopia.)
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To: y6162

History is replete with nations headed by dictators who followed the path being followed by President Obama. Don’t ignore history LA Times.


6 posted on 09/05/2009 7:49:48 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s why none of us paranoids take that paper.


7 posted on 09/05/2009 7:51:25 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll file this with all my LA Times articles about the paranoid nuts who believed the Bush government was behind 9/11.

Hmm... I can’t seem to locate those at the moment...


8 posted on 09/05/2009 7:52:48 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Salamander; Markos33; Slings and Arrows

Just because you’re paranoid, it doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you. (Or indoctrinate your kids ..... and take away your stuff.)


9 posted on 09/05/2009 7:52:58 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Just because Tim Rutten Has a job, makes Tim an authority on just about nothing. Parents know best, Tim is a zer0 bot.

f u tim


10 posted on 09/05/2009 7:53:08 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is yet crossing another line that no other President ever dared to cross in the history of our Republic. He is messing up and trying to destroy the very foundations of the American value system. This is America and not a third world country where the President is interfering in every aspect of people lives and in their faces 24/7 including in the faces of children and youngsters at school.


11 posted on 09/05/2009 7:53:27 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: SeekAndFind

But would have no problem if a Bush speech were boycotted.


12 posted on 09/05/2009 7:54:25 PM PDT by MissesBush
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Ditto!


13 posted on 09/05/2009 7:55:23 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Dept of Education Guideline, Grade 7 - 12:
• What resonated with you from President Obama’s speech? What lines or phrases do you remember?
• What are the three most important words in the speech? Rank them.

Based on previous speeches, I'd speculate "I won" or "Sit back and enjoy it" or "I, me, I, me, I, me." You sure won't hear "freedom," "liberty," "limited government" or "pursuit of happiness."

14 posted on 09/05/2009 7:56:15 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind
But there is no similar way to rationalize the bizarre controversy now raging over President Obama's plan to deliver a brief televised address on Tuesday to the nation's grammar school children.

Doesn't need rationalizing Tim.

The children belong to their parents Tim.

They are not "the nation's grammar school children" Tim.

Those parents pay for the schools and all the school employees (that includes all the teachers and the administrators) Tim.

Anytime they decide the school is doing something they consider to not be in the best interest of their children, they can withdraw them Tim.

They don't need your approval Tim.

So here's the bottom-line Tim.

Stuff it, nobody's listening to your leftist spew any more Tim.

P.S. Say Tim, how's your job prospects looking at the paper these days? Maybe you should have gotten a clue that nobody was listening, by the downward spiraling circulation of your "birdcage liner", eh Tim?

15 posted on 09/05/2009 7:56:48 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: Onelifetogive

Now, if this was Bush piped into the classrooms with a study guide for the children asking them to think of ways they can help him, the LA Times would be writing a different story. I don’t think they would be calling it paranoid.


16 posted on 09/05/2009 7:57:27 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: Paladin2

The implication in all this is that parents and teachers aren’t already telling kids to work hard and study, so we need to beam in the face of the Chicago street thug to show them how it’s done.

What is the pricetag for this? Funny how they never bring that up.


17 posted on 09/05/2009 7:58:11 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Don't worry, I'm only criticizing Obama's white half.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Timmy really needs to try to come out of his office a little more often. He’d be paranoid too if he knew what is going on out here.


18 posted on 09/05/2009 7:59:25 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps the schools should have an in-school speech by Rush Limbaugh. D’ya think that woould fly, hmmmmmm?


19 posted on 09/05/2009 7:59:59 PM PDT by charmedone
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To: MissesBush

Why can’t these Obamabots understand. We will tell our children to study hard, and we will see that they arrive at school on time. That would be WE—THE PARENTS.

My fear is that the first speech will be fairly inocuous, but future speeches will start to tread into areas that I don’t want my kid listening to:

Go home and tell your parents to support my plan blah blah blah

Then all the libs will say it’s no big deal, he’s been talking to our kids every month.

Next thing you know, they’ll be worshipping him. He’ll be able to see into the classrooms and make sure they are all saluting him. SCARY


20 posted on 09/05/2009 8:00:57 PM PDT by mommyq
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To: SeekAndFind

No. It shows a healthy mistrust of the empty suit who is now occupying the Oval Office, and a correct one too.


21 posted on 09/05/2009 8:01:40 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

There is a certain segment of society where the kids could be encouraged to study more seriously (Non-Asians).


22 posted on 09/05/2009 8:01:52 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Obama were to say only this .....”challenge students to work hard, set educational goals and take responsibility for their learning”, I would not have a problem with it. Problem is thats not all he is going to say. It will be a push to politicize.


23 posted on 09/05/2009 8:02:29 PM PDT by socialismislost
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s simple. Obama gives us no confidence that he can address children without trying to recruit them to a particular cause.


24 posted on 09/05/2009 8:03:04 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All the hullabaloo about slavery and Lincoln during the election and inauguration, and now we have a President who thinks it’s OK that people want to be servants to him. Adding insult to injury you are then called names if you, as a freedom loving American, object.

What a kountry!


25 posted on 09/05/2009 8:03:09 PM PDT by JavaJumpy
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To: SeekAndFind

This coming from the paper who go the ‘finger biter’ story TOTALLY WRONG. Oh! And still is holding on to the tape of Obama in a dinner where Israel is vilified by Palestinian supporters by the key speakers.


26 posted on 09/05/2009 8:03:15 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

The left media makes Obama into a cult of personality, then gets pouty when parents don’t want the cult anywhere near their kids.

Sorry leftards, you don’t get to have your arugula and eat it too.


27 posted on 09/05/2009 8:04:08 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: charmedone

Better yet, a 2-hour debate b/t Rush and what’s his name? No teleprompter.


28 posted on 09/05/2009 8:04:18 PM PDT by charmedone
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess you can only see the truth after the koolaid wears off?*sarcasm*


29 posted on 09/05/2009 8:04:58 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: SeekAndFind

When he reaffirms the pledge of Allegiance to this country I may at that time believe he has my child’s future as a priority.

Until then he’s still in campaign mode and want to try and salvage something of his legacy.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/kidshome


30 posted on 09/05/2009 8:05:35 PM PDT by swheats (Time is the greatest equalizer. Seek God in America Again. Be fruitful and multiply.)
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To: Paladin2

>>There is a certain segment of society where the kids could be encouraged to study more seriously (Non-Asians).<<

oh and I guess Obama is the one to do it?


31 posted on 09/05/2009 8:06:28 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Don't worry, I'm only criticizing Obama's white half.)
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To: swheats

Will he tell them they’ll need to start work sooner to pay off this debt he’s strapping to their backs?


32 posted on 09/05/2009 8:07:58 PM PDT by swheats (Time is the greatest equalizer. Seek God in America Again. Be fruitful and multiply.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Its not paranoia ... we just don't like the guy.

We pray for our leaders - as God directs us to do - but I believe in addition to praying for their health, wisdom, and well-being, it is fair to pray that they get a heart and soul transplant.
The Fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom. Having leaders that walk around with no fear of God in their eyes (Romans 3:10-18) has given us leaders with no wisdom.

We have leaders that rule in manner more reminiscent to Lenin and the Bolsheviks than George Washington and the Continental Congress ...

Stay home from school - the worst thing to do for someone stuck in the gall of bitterness and the pit of inequity is to feed his ego by providing an audience to his blather...

33 posted on 09/05/2009 8:08:57 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: shibumi

read some of the excerpts from Sex Rebel: Black...written by Frank Marshall davis based on his life.

And this was Obama’s Mentor. I wouldn’t want him telling my kids anything.


34 posted on 09/05/2009 8:09:09 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not the speech, it’s the lesson plans. LAT is trying to divert our attention.

The speech is one issue, the plans point to a deeper intent.

“Someone very important is going to ask you to do something. Are you up to it?..... Ok, he asked you. Now write down your commitment to do what he asked......Mary, it’s been a month. Are you doing what the President of the United States asked you to do? I have your letter here saying you’ll do it...”


35 posted on 09/05/2009 8:09:43 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: MissesBush

I think Bush the elder did some televised meeting with a DC school class, but it was nothing like what obama is going to do.


36 posted on 09/05/2009 8:09:48 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
0bama could do it by listing all of his own initiatives to make American individuals more self-reliant and internally motivated.

I'd be a short speech.

37 posted on 09/05/2009 8:09:52 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: SeekAndFind
Those who are whipping up hysteria over the president's address are playing a dangerous game with an unhinged segment of public opinion.

LOL! So it's "inhinged" to utterly reject a commie totalitarian competing with parents for the minds of their children?

What a great lot of scumbags. The sooner the are gone, the safer our nation will be.

38 posted on 09/05/2009 8:10:16 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hey, LAT, If his speech is NO BIG DEAL - why are all your libs writing about it and now calling parents names because they aren't bowing to your king. Your intimidation is juvenile but it's your weapon of choice for something that is no big deal. You get your panties in a knot because you can't get at our children.

compete in the global economy for good jobs

Global? All the good jobs are going to unqualified candidates so how is school going to help me compete w/that, Mr.Non Legit who votes 'present' and 'claim to fame' is being a community organizer.

and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

How is this generation or the next going to do that - you already taxed us till we die! You are a con man.
39 posted on 09/05/2009 8:13:01 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: socialismislost

in 1989, President George H.W. Bush specifically spoke to students about drug abuse. I wonder why there was no huge hullabaloo then..

I wonder what’s the big deal with the president of the United States for talking to students about the importance of getting a good education and being a good citizen....

Maybe we should all just relax and let it go...


40 posted on 09/05/2009 8:13:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: swheats

This is WHY everyone is upset about Obama talking to our students: It’s the lesson plans and the possibility of teachers using this as an opportunity to indoctrinate them! Case in point:

Grade school teacher in North Carolina Teacher asks the students who they are voting for? McCain or Obama?
She then tells a student that if she Votes for McCain, her father will have to stay in Iraq for another hundred years. This was a foreign documentary filming in the classroom..

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31838_Obama-Supporting_Teacher_Bullies_Student


41 posted on 09/05/2009 8:15:18 PM PDT by bigtoona
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To: SeekAndFind
My question is why are KINDERGARTEN children being forced to watch this thing? Is there a large drop-out problem there? Do they really have a choice whether they go to school or not, and what do they really have to study? Seriously...kindergarten? And what 5 or 6 year old is actually going to sit still and listen to some man going blah,blah,blah for 15 to-20 minutes? And then remember the "important" parts! Does this age group even know or care what a president is?

Even considering the first- the sixth grades is a little creepy. Come on, this is GRADE school! Mommy and Daddy take you to school and then they come and get you. Or are the little tykes cruising the streets AWOL every day?!

42 posted on 09/05/2009 8:15:23 PM PDT by Americanchild
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To: Col Freeper

BUMP! Great post.


43 posted on 09/05/2009 8:15:26 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: DBrow

I say NO speech and then next month another one - don’t give these commies one inch! We know what they are up to, why act otherwise?


44 posted on 09/05/2009 8:15:40 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: CaptRon
No. It shows a healthy mistrust of the empty suit who is now occupying the Oval Office, and a correct one too.

Exactly. After what we've seen since January, we don't trust him. End of story.

The media will never grasp that.

45 posted on 09/05/2009 8:16:21 PM PDT by Nighttime in America
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberalese: Calls to boycott Obama’s speech to kids offer a disturbing lesson in paranoia

English translation: Calls to allowt Obama’s speech to kids offer a disturbing lesson in Marxist Indoctrination


46 posted on 09/05/2009 8:16:58 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Presidents have addressed students in the past before. Obama is not trying to address. He is trying to indoctrinate with marxist crap. I guarantee he will spin healthcare into this, or the economy and how evil Republicans are holding back his “progressive” plans. I wonder what Obama’s idea is of a “good citizen”? hmm.


47 posted on 09/05/2009 8:17:14 PM PDT by socialismislost
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To: Americanchild

It’s all about indoctrination - they starting repeating what he says, and the teacher will keep it all alive. Just NO to any speech, ever.


48 posted on 09/05/2009 8:17:18 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SeekAndFind

I didn’t realize that Tim Rutten was a psychologist with expertise on paranoia.


49 posted on 09/05/2009 8:18:53 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Those who are whipping up hysteria over the president’s address are playing a dangerous game”

Now the people who don’t want their kids to hear Obama’s speech are dangerous. How so? What irreparable harm is going to be done if they don’t hear the speech? What’s the big deal?


50 posted on 09/05/2009 8:19:57 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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