Posted on 09/06/2009 7:29:24 AM PDT by DavidFarrar
The Next Right likes to bill itself as a website where the new Republican ideology is being forged. It is largely made up of RINOs, corporatist and Independents, all masquerading as conservative Republicans.
Since I have had a long experience with just how the corporatist have taken over the Republican Party, I naturally began to call them out on this point. I explained to the readers at The Next Right that the corporatist are, indeed, a very valuable asset of the Republican Party, but their political agenda, since it's really not interested in lowering taxes, lowering government spending, or even protecting individual liberty, should not be the party's dominant political force. What the Republican Party really needs to do is re-empower the grassroot members of the party to provide a more balanced political effort. Needless to say, my posts were not fully appreciated at The Next Right, nor were my gifs...go figure.
However, the end came when I started discussing Obama's birth certificate, or the lack of it. I was unceremoniously dumped.
I was, of course, not altogether concerned with this development because The Next Right never really grew in membership and was, in fact, loosing readers. However, upon a recent visit I now find an all out assault on the birther movement as Birchers has begun. Their attack is centered around the World Net Daily support of the birther's claims concerning the lack of vindication of Obama's birth certificate.
Interestingly, and this is why I have chosen to post this thread, they have attacked the Republican Party for using WND email list in its advertising and are now trying to apply pressure against the party to end any association with WND, not because WND sometimes get carried away with tabloid-like articles, but because of the birther issue itself.
Of course, the RNC has no intention of doing so because it understands, even if the fine people at The Next Right do not, the birthers call for Obama to publish his long-form birth certificate to establish legitimacy centers on the issue of trust in the Obama presidency itself.
One last thing I forgot to mention about the corporatist...they don't really care who is elected President or why. All they need is someone in charge to implement their corporate agenda through and they are happy.
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davidfarrar
Oh no! This is shocking!
All the other issues out there . . . and this group worries about THAT?
Good post!
Covered in glory as it is on the issue, WND has no cause to worry. < / sarc>
Last thing I want to visit is a RINO website.
I know...they even diss the Tea Party movement and Sarah Palin. In fact, they look down their long noses at the grassroot of the party and wonder why on earth they don’t simply shut up and let the professionals run the party.
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davidfarrar
The GOP is a crap sack, loaded with foul smelling traitors and RINOs.
What is the point of even bringing attention to this website?
I had never heard of it before, and if it weren’t for you, would likely have lived out the remainder of my life without ever hearing of it.
I’m sure there a countless others poking around the interwebs whom this likewise applies to.
Your question is a good one, yet there is a post about this site every couple of days.
Dissing a highly reliable news source like WND? Say it isn’t true! (Remember WND’s breaking news on the soon-to-come revelation of the Ark of the Convenant? Waiting... waiting....)
I emailed Joseph Farah today, congratulated him on his great work on Van Jones. And told him his work on the BC was a bit of a joke.
Hopefully , he will give it up . .let Lou Dobbs take over the issue. It make WND look foolish.
I know...they even diss the Tea Party movement and Sarah Palin. In fact, they look down their long noses at the grassroot of the party and wonder why on earth they dont simply shut up and let the professionals run the party.
There’s a few like that around here as well
No it is where elitist pseudo "Conservatives" like David Brooks, Peggy Noonan, David Frum et al hang out. I am no fan of WND but this crap is so stupid it makes you wonder which side this website really plays for.
And they wonder why they are a minority party?
Might it be because of the out of touch Democrat Lite wanna bees like this website author who do nothing but shoot their own side in the back?
Republicans are politicians who cater to the right.
The problem is THEY’RE POLITICIANS.
The elitists from both sides are going to look down their noses at we ‘common folk’ who have sense enough to ask for the truth and expect ALL citizens to be treated by the same standard by the government.
I think the reason for this is many true conservatives have forgotten Who is the Source and Defense of our liberties. True conservatives, the type that founded our nation, are by-and-large, believers as were (most of) our founders. As such, conservatives first and foremost need to pray to the God who formed this country and certainly is needed to restore this country. As Benjamin Franklin put it,
I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth -- that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings that "except the Lord build they labor in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall be become a reproach and a bye word down to future age.
Yes, good point, sir.
But I believe their point must be addressed. I mean, you should read just how uninformed these people are on the whole BC controversy itself, and now they are calling us Birchers!
Secondly, Obama is presently finding out just how little a president can govern when s/he looses the trust of the American people. It is time for these people, and not just the people at The Next Right, but the O’Reilies, the Becks, and the rest of the right establishment who have distanced themselves from the birther question, to realize it is a legitimate question of trust people are asking in the Obama presidency itself and are not finding it. This mounting lack of trust, as we now can plainly see, is not limited to just the birther issue, but extends to virtually all aspects of the Obama presidency itself.
It lays bare the false premise many on the right have charged the birther movement with: There are plenty of other “more legitimate” issues with which to go after Obama with than the birther issue. Such is not the case. The legitimacy of Obama’s presidency and his failure to adequately resolve the issue lies at the very cord of his fall in the polls and the ulitmate failure of his presidency. That is the point presently being attacked by the RINOs at the Next Right and the one that must not be allowed to go unanswered.
ex animo
davidfarrar
I would say to any of those corporate ‘Next Right’ RINO-scumbags to try and and explain why NONE of 0bama’s 43 predecessors felt compelled to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to conceal the details of their birth, their school records, medical records, travel history, et al.
The fact is, 0bama and his thugs have been stonewalling the American people about his origins and have refused to provide proof that he is in fact Constitutionally eligible to serve as POTUS. Each and every sign points to 0bama having something extremely sinister in his background that is being hidden from the American people and as his employer, ‘We The People’ have a RIGHT to know that this joker actually possesses Constitutional bonafides that legally permit him to serve in the Office he is currently occupying.
Here’s the bottom line folks: NOBODY has seen 0bama’s original vault copy certificate with ALL the details of his birth, and until that document is made public, you have a choice: either demand that it be released and 0bama’s Constitutional qualifications be confirmed, OR:
You stick your head in the sand like an ostrich and pretend that this is a ‘non-issue’, when in fact this ONE issue trumps each and every issue there is, for if 0bama is NOT eligible to serve as POTUS as defined by Article II Section 1, EVERYTHING he has done since 20 January 2009 is illegal, null and void, illegitimate, criminal, treason, and all those words (and more) apply.
So ask yourself: do you want to be part of the solution, or part of the problem? If you join up with the ignorant masses sneering ‘birther’-this and ‘birther’-that, you might as well take the Ashton Kutcher pledge to be 0bama’s ‘servant’, because you’ll for damn sure be enabling and empowering that Kenyan sonuvabitch, so make your choice.
I find the whole Birther thing to be a great deal of fun.
I don’t really care if it’s legitimate or not. I just like watching rabid Leftists froth at the mouth uncontrollably when you call 0bama illegitimate.
It is not, however, a political platform.
Yes, I absolutely agree.
I have long suspected these people were, in fact, an arm of the political left, masquerading as conservatives, engaging in some sore of counter-psyop operation.
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davidfarrar
Okay, Dave. Who are the founders of this Rino-virus site?
In reading articles at The Next Right...especially WND related articles...I can’t help but wonder whose side those folks are really on. Is it possible The Next Right is a trojan horse?
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davidfarrar
Frum has his own RINO site, not this one. Brooks is at the NY Times, and Noonan is still a syndicated columnist based out of the Wall Street Journal. This is a less significant RINO site. Sorry I gave them a hit.
Why do you not care if the birth certificate matter is legitimate or not? It is a constitutional matter.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
Jonathan Henke, Patrick Ruffini and Soren Dayton.
That could very well be the epitaph of Obama’s presidency.
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davidfarrar
I like WND. While they aren’t perfect, I do put them quite above ANY socialist/communist/fascist/racist/atheist/hedonist/green, whether in print or on television.
I don’t care because I know, legitimate or not, nothing will come of it.
This Constitution you speak of is just paper. It has no power if it is not enforced.
The politics of the day is what rules America.
And those in power look out for each other’s power.
If ever undeniable proof that 0bama was constitutionally ineligible to be president made it to the light of day, the politicians would all say “we can’t just go removing a sitting President from office over a technicality, it would be too destabilizing! Besides, The Will Of The People must be respected above all else, and 0bama was popularly elected!”
Of course the politicians will ignore “The Will Of The People” when The People are calling for his removal from office. Because when they say it would be “too destabilizing” what they really mean to say is if The People are permitted to start removing politicians from office, then they could be next.
From your typing fingers to God’s monitor!
It’s a sad little blog, really. I can see why they’d want to gin up false controversy for hits to the site.
Most article comments are (0) (0) (0), with the rare few from one of the putative founders of the blog, getting 41 comments apiece, oddly enough.
I wonder how many of them are online alias screen names, belonging to the “founders?” Most, probably. Getting a little dusty over there, since they started up in February of 2008.
Anyone who posts to their own blog, under their own name, is looking for notoriety. And, if that person is a political consultant, doubly so.
Dubious politics on that site. Not conservative under my understanding of the term. I won’t be going back.
Gee, you could be right. Soren, Pat and Jon posting under multiple alias screen names...I never thought of that. It would explain a lot.
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davidfarrar
I do. It's that whole "support and defend" thing. Remember it says "against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
Let’s stop using the derogatory term “birther’ that the Obamobots smeared us with, and stand firm on our right to question and get answers. I refuse to be embarrassed or intimidated by the kindergarten name-calling of the left.
I agree with you.
So ask yourself: do you want to be part of the solution, or part of the problem? If you join up with the ignorant masses sneering birther-this and birther-that, you might as well take the Ashton Kutcher pledge to be 0bamas servant, because youll for damn sure be enabling and empowering that Kenyan sonuvabitch, so make your choice.
"New Republican ideology" is a code word for liberalism under a conservative label. It didn't do well for McCain and it definitely won't do anything for conservatives searching for a political home upon which they can rely to espouse their views, sentiments, ideals and trust. It will instead breed "independents" who are tired and distrustful of both democrats and republicans equally.
Sadly, you’re mistaken over what country you live in.
This isn’t Thomas Jefferson’s America.
This is Reality TV’s America, and Saturday Night Live’s America.
You also are not the most adept at reading comprehension.
You can quote those “old dead white guys” all you want, but it means nothing in a country where the politicians long ago abandoned them and most of the citizens have never heard of them. America’s not about “old dead white guys” anymore. It’s about hip young black ones now.
You want to take this issue up with me?
Hey, I’m just the messenger.
I consider the term “birther” only derogatory when it is used in a derogatory fashion. It is a testament to our strength and the righteousness of our cause to be able to use the very term the left thinks it can smear us with, as if to throw it right back into their face. I use it proudly because it doesn’t diminish our cause, it only strengthens it.
It’s kind of like when you were a kid and someone called you a dirty name. Sometimes your best response was simply repeating “I know you are. But what am I?” “I know you are. But what am I?” After a few of these incredible sophicated repartees the name calling soon stopped.
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davidfarrar
It is the task before us, as speakers of the truth, to accept whatever name is given to us by our opposition and turn it into a name we all can be proud of. It is easy to do if you believe your cause is just.
Now say it after me: I AM A BIRTHER!
And say it proudly: I AM A BIRTHER AND PROUD OF IT!
ex animo
davidfarrar
You can be however you like out in “real America” but your politicians are all the same no matter where you go.
And they all are all about protecting the power in Washington, not the Constitution.
It’s a little sad that you are so naïve.
What’s sad is your defeatist mentality, you’ve already surrendered without firing a shot.
Don’t confuse what you think is someone being ‘naive’ with actually having the guts that you sorely lack.
Go on, take the 0bama pledge. It’s all you have left.
I’m just saying you’re delusional if you think the politicians in Washington are going to do anything to upset their applecart.
Pfffff.
You are no longer worth my time.
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