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2,000 Washington State Students Report Signs of Swine Flu
The New York Times ^ | Monday, September 7, 2009 | William Yardley

Posted on 09/07/2009 12:07:31 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

SEATTLE — At least 2,000 students at Washington State University have reported symptoms of the H1N1 flu virus, university and local health officials said, in what appeared to be one of the largest outbreaks of the virus on a college campus.

“It’s real,” Sally Redman, a registered nurse who works in student health services at Washington State, said Saturday. “We’ve had a constant stream of people.”

So far, the cases at the university have been relatively mild, although at least two people in the area who are not students were hospitalized. The university, based in Pullman, in eastern Washington near the Idaho border, has about 19,000 students at its main campus.

Ms. Redman said the outbreak appeared about Aug. 21, during fraternity and sorority rush but before classes started. After that, she said, “it was rampant.”

As many as 200 students a day have visited or called student health services, reporting sore throats, fevers as high as 104 degrees, muscle aches and coughs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: flu; h1n1; influenza; outbreak; report; signs; swineflu; swinefluvirus; washingtonstate; wsu
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1 posted on 09/07/2009 12:07:32 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I wonder how many have some other kind of flu.


2 posted on 09/07/2009 12:08:56 PM PDT by donna (No more twitterpated RINO talk!)
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To: donna

brown bottle flu?


3 posted on 09/07/2009 12:09:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Come on, the first two weeks in a new environment with less sleep than normal will drag on anyone’s health. Are they all THIS scared that fresh cold is more than a cold??? Or, are they being told to go to the nurse at the first sniffle?


4 posted on 09/07/2009 12:10:13 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: MinorityRepublican

And the “national emergency” begins.


5 posted on 09/07/2009 12:10:46 PM PDT by Clink (The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.)
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To: RebelTXRose
Come on, the first two weeks in a new environment with less sleep than normal will drag on anyone’s health. Are they all THIS scared that fresh cold is more than a cold??? Or, are they being told to go to the nurse at the first sniffle?

Don't forget all the partying too.

6 posted on 09/07/2009 12:12:46 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I blame beer bongs and keg stands.


7 posted on 09/07/2009 12:13:27 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

pffft.....

WSU milking medicaid or whatever taxpayer funded program pays for these “visits”.....nonetheless, read/parse the article very carefully, then read the WSU blog just as carefully and thoughtfully:
https://hws.wsu.edu/blog/default.asp

the minuscule number of “visits” to “providers” (per the WSU blog).....

before this week is out, most schools will be following suit.....gotta LOVE those poor sucker taxpayers, though :)


8 posted on 09/07/2009 12:13:49 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: MinorityRepublican

OMG...a cluster of students in close proximity have contracted the flu. Quick, call the New York Times. We need more funding, we need to crash produce more vaccine, then end is near, someone give me a paper bag to breath in!


9 posted on 09/07/2009 12:14:18 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: MinorityRepublican

I wonder how many of them thought they were going to have to listen to Obama’s speech to ‘school chidren’?! /s


10 posted on 09/07/2009 12:14:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MinorityRepublican

Hey, I’d report I had malaria if I thought it would have got me out of some exams or provided some extra Cash from Uncle Sam.


11 posted on 09/07/2009 12:18:08 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: MinorityRepublican

The money quote for a clinician ... “So far, the cases at the university have been relatively mild”

BECAUSE swine flu *IS* right now a mild flu.

read the CDC guidance to clinicians. Get the real facts.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/identifyingpatients.htm


12 posted on 09/07/2009 12:19:26 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Blueflag

2000 sick and no deaths.....This is probably the best immunization these kids can get.


13 posted on 09/07/2009 12:22:19 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: donna

‘signs’...well If i have diarrhea, that’s a sign, even though it may be from eating something that doesn’t agree with me, and not the flu.....Man they are really trying hard to push America into a panic....I’m glad Americans are smarter than Rham ,. we already know he wants another ‘crisis’ to take advantage of us again.


14 posted on 09/07/2009 12:23:19 PM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It is the “brown acid”..


15 posted on 09/07/2009 12:23:43 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Infectious disease expert on FOX, now reporting this flu is LOSING it’s virulancy. And the shot is not safe to take...linked to autism!! Expert says he would NOT give this shot to his own children.


16 posted on 09/07/2009 12:28:27 PM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: Sacajaweau
2000 sick and no deaths.....This is probably the best immunization these kids can get.

Yep. Some state colleges have between 40,000 to 50,000 kids on a single campus.

17 posted on 09/07/2009 12:29:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Freddd
Infectious disease expert on FOX, now reporting this flu is LOSING it’s virulancy.

The origins of the flu was deadly in Mexico City but eventually it just seemed to tapered off?

18 posted on 09/07/2009 12:31:06 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: donna

Yes, I wonder how they diagnose this as Swine Flu vs. other flu.

If it did spread this fast I would look really closely at the food service in the dorms. Someone may be sneezing on the salad, so to speak.


19 posted on 09/07/2009 12:32:37 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: MinorityRepublican

What exactly are signs of the Swine Flu? Everything I’ve seen said the signs are no different than any other flu... just a different virus strain.


20 posted on 09/07/2009 12:33:35 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: MinorityRepublican

mass hysteria...all feeding into the govt’s agenda for mandatory immunization.


21 posted on 09/07/2009 12:34:36 PM PDT by Awestruck (Now if we can only get the rest of the "republican" leaders to stand up to the liberals.)
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To: Chet 99

low grade fever, upper respiratory distress, aches, pains chills, sore throat, tender lymph glands. The usual.

Sick for 3 - 4 days. Infectious for 7 - 10 (even before you present with symptoms).

Then you are fine. (statistically you WILL be fine.)

Some sadly will die. But folks die from a lot of HxNx viral infections, even a ‘hanta’ virus (cold) can ‘kill’ some.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/identifyingpatients.htm


22 posted on 09/07/2009 12:37:11 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Vitamin D is supposed to help take care of this....


23 posted on 09/07/2009 12:43:29 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: MinorityRepublican

How many cases have been confirmed as H1N1?


24 posted on 09/07/2009 12:46:03 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (In the name of diversity, we are all becoming exactly the same.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

How many cases have been confirmed as H1N1?


25 posted on 09/07/2009 12:46:09 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (In the name of diversity, we are all becoming exactly the same.)
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To: Thunder90

Vitamin D, Benadryl, Zyrtec OTC, Ibuprofen, lots of water and fruit juice/ gatorade. Try to pee a lot to cycle fluids.

Those will lessen symptoms AND probably lessen the chance of more serious side-effect conditions in otherwise healthy individuals.


26 posted on 09/07/2009 12:54:06 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You forgot we need to pass health care now!!! YEAAARRRGGGGHHH!!!! That last part was for are old friend Howie. LOL!!! People die from the common cold. I haven’t of that many deaths from this here in the U.S. and one of them was a baby that came from Mexico with his family. I think it is ironic that this is popping up now. Don’t get me wrong I pray these students get better no mattter what they have. It just seems odd timing. Of course they kept saying that it would hit hard this fall. If this truly becomes an epidemic, I pray that the Democrats can’t use it to shove Obamacare down our throats.


27 posted on 09/07/2009 12:56:21 PM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: MinorityRepublican

I was being kind (we won’t talk about MY first semester in college, either!) LOL


28 posted on 09/07/2009 1:02:30 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Freddd

Not that my 18 yo son needs an excuse not to get a shot, I’ve told him NOTHING from a school nurse and I’ll HAVE to be there with the pediatrician...(He SO hates going to the kid dr - he’s an adult now! LOL)


29 posted on 09/07/2009 1:05:41 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Freddd
And the shot is not safe to take...linked to autism!! Expert says he would NOT give this shot to his own children.

My daughters will refuse the H1N1 innoculation if there is an outbreak at either of the universities they attend here in FL.

30 posted on 09/07/2009 1:07:48 PM PDT by Florida native
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To: Awestruck

What’s the theory behind why the government would be looking for mandatory immunization?


31 posted on 09/07/2009 1:28:07 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Impeach President Bernanke.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
My best guess is that in the end....It will be the governments health plan which will save us...

BILLIONS of dollars have already been released for this virus.

32 posted on 09/07/2009 1:48:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sounds like a hi temp is the only verifiable “symptom”

I wouldn’t put it past college students to pull a huge prank where everyone pretends to be sick.

They might have flu but that does not make it Swine Flu


33 posted on 09/07/2009 1:59:23 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: LayoutGuru2

I don’t expect them to actually test them for that strain of flu, they just want to assume it. Because Swine Flu comes with federal $$$, why would they want to test them??


34 posted on 09/07/2009 2:03:30 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Poor Washington State.

They can’t keep a football coach . . . now this.


35 posted on 09/07/2009 2:04:57 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: MinorityRepublican

Wazzu!!

Achoo!!!


36 posted on 09/07/2009 2:08:37 PM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: Blueflag
low grade fever, upper respiratory distress, aches, pains chills, sore throat, tender lymph glands. The usual.

Sick for 3 - 4 days. Infectious for 7 - 10 (even before you present with symptoms).

Then you are fine. (statistically you WILL be fine.)

Reminds me of a Dilbert comic I saw once: Dogbert reading the newspaper: "There is a new disease. First you feel fine and then you die." Dilbert: "I feel fine." Dogbert: "My work is done here."

I would be asking if 2000 students reporting signs of a cold is statistically different from prior years. But the answer may not fit the agenda.

37 posted on 09/07/2009 2:16:06 PM PDT by esarlls3
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To: Blueflag

I agree. Our clinic has been swamped with cases involving flu symptoms. It may be mild but lots of people are getting it.


38 posted on 09/07/2009 2:31:44 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: donna

I hope the Marxists in government don’t use the Swine Flu as and excuse to shut down the Tea Parties.


39 posted on 09/07/2009 2:33:24 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime
I hope the Marxists in government don’t use the Swine Flu as and excuse to shut down the Tea Parties.

Oh Snap!....what about Sept. 12? Rahm doesn't believe in wasting a "crisis".

40 posted on 09/07/2009 2:41:56 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama, the cow patty version of Midas. Everything he says is bull, everything he touches is crap.)
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To: BigBobber
I don't know that they are testing specifically for H1N1, however, seasonal flu doesn't normally start until much later.

I'm not a medical person but from what I've seen the last few weeks...some kind of flu is going around and it has shown up a heck of a lot sooner than it normally does. I normally wait and get my flu shot in Nov. Me and the kids got ours last week.

41 posted on 09/07/2009 2:44:20 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

to get us used to this sort of thing...its already mandatory for the military...and there have been lawsuits because of it..


42 posted on 09/07/2009 2:57:34 PM PDT by Awestruck (Now if we can only get the rest of the "republican" leaders to stand up to the liberals.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

2,000? That is nearly the entire campus?


43 posted on 09/07/2009 3:01:18 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Blueflag
"Vitamin D, Benadryl, Zyrtec OTC, Ibuprofen, lots of water and fruit juice/ gatorade. Try to pee a lot to cycle fluids."

Is this what 0bambi was trying to tell us the other day....

when he said: all wee weed out?

44 posted on 09/07/2009 3:18:37 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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To: cranked

“2,000? That is nearly the entire campus?”

There were around 11,000 when I went there during the ‘70s, now there are nearly 18,000.


45 posted on 09/07/2009 3:37:48 PM PDT by Old Forester
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To: MinorityRepublican
The origins of the flu was deadly in Mexico City but eventually it just seemed to tapered off?

The Crude H1N1 death rate has risen since the first of June. This is a not the regular seasonal flu. Most people shrug it off so many say its no big deal but it is. 10 year old in Alaska was sent home by the school nurse last Thursday around noon. Friday night he was dead. A 41 year old man from NZ who flew to Canada for Worldskills died of it. He was training for a marathon.

Helen Branswell of Canada's Globe and Mail is filing some of the best reports. She wrote on Sept 1st:

“I've never seen this,” says Dr. Paul Hebert, editor of the Canadian Medical Association Journal and an intensive care physician in Ottawa who has treated several of these patients. “As an ICU doctor, it's very, very, very rare I can't deliver enough oxygen to someone to keep him alive. They die of other things, right? They die because their organs fail.” “In this case, we can barely oxygenate them.”
Some patients are being put on ECMO machines (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation)--artificial lungs. Their lungs are so full of snot that putting them on mechanical ventilation causes their lungs to blow up. The death rate isn't a 1918 but it is approaching 1958. But what is really going to cause problems are not enough ECMO and other equipment. ICUs in New Zealand and Australia were beyond their max. And they don't have near the social pathologies which flood, on a daily basis, our emergency rooms.
46 posted on 09/07/2009 3:38:12 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
What’s the theory behind why the government would be looking for mandatory immunization?

Good question. I don't get why some claim it is a threat. Some reasons why I can't see it happening:

1. There isn't and won't be enough vaccine for all those who want it.
2.The logistics are daunting. American can't count who is even here. Where are the people going to come from to fan out from Nome to Key West to Bar Harbor and San Diego to give everyone a shot?
3. Influenza A travels so fast, everyone who is going to get it will have gotten it by the time mandatory vaccinations were set up.

47 posted on 09/07/2009 3:42:41 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: wintertime; BigBobber; Freddd; driftdiver

I just remembered this:

The First Bioterrorism Attack in America – Oregon 1984

To keep anti-Rajneesh voters from reaching the polls, sannyasins sprayed salmonella on the salad bars at several popular restaurants in The Dalles, sending 750 people to the hospital with severe food poisoning. It was “the only case of germ warfare against a whole American city,”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/566102/posts

Rise and Fall of Rajneeshpuram
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDgOf2Om28


48 posted on 09/07/2009 4:00:55 PM PDT by donna (No more twitterpated RINO talk!)
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To: donna
The First Bioterrorism Attack in America – Oregon 1984

Ma Anand Sheela, Rajneesh's assistant, was sentenced to 20 years in prison for the food poisoning and several other serious crimes including attempted murder. I just checked to see if she recently got out of jail. Not only is she out, but for some reason she was released after only 2 1/2 years!

"The Oregonian is a unique species of idiot." - Rajneesh

49 posted on 09/07/2009 4:29:56 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside

589 deaths in the US so far from H1N1, as of Aug 29th CDC reporting.


50 posted on 09/07/2009 4:36:13 PM PDT by BagCamAddict ("Wolverines!!")
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