EZEKIEL EMANUEL AND OBAMA HEALTH CARE
(Must Read - Shocking, cited quotes by Emanuel)
OBAMA HEALTH CARE BY THE NUMBERS
AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
Posted on 09/08/2009 11:32:37 AM PDT by Nachum
A young mother's premature baby died in her arms after doctors refused to help because it was born just before 22-week cut-off point for treatment.
Sarah Capewell, 23, gave birth to her son Jayden when she was 21 weeks and five days into her pregnancy.
Although doctors refused to place the baby in intensive care, Jayden lived for two hours before he passed away at James Paget Hospital in Gorleston, Norfolk, last October.
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monsters
Rest in heaven.
If they tried this in the USA the Dr would get shot, another reason th UK dose not want you to own Guns.
Obama would approve.
yep, whoever wrote those rules and enforced them, was a death panel for baby Jayden. RIP baby.
And folks in the US think that government care is supposed to be sooooo compassioante.
Here in the US these children end up living because they get the very best NICU care in the world.
Now tell us again how the system is broken? Yeah thought so Obama
That is just horrible. The pain that mother is going through is beyond most people’s comprehension. It makes me feel ill just thinking about it.
Just Obama’s rejection of Born Alive Infant Protection Act (BAIPA) - I’m sure he has no problem with this
Why didn’t the Dad go down to his car, get a gun and put it to the docter’s head demanding treatment for the baby?
Oh wait, this is England....no guns.....
Which reminds me, I would think that no US beaurcrat would want to be seated on a US “death panel”....
Think about it, you’re a senior citizen that has months to live without treatment.....the board turns him down.....next time he shows up he’s strapped with explosives.....
LOL, nothing to lose and maybe will help the next guy (once they re-seat a new board).......
We could be creating a new group of senior terrorists.....
Amillia is counted as a 21w6d baby because she was IVF and the doctors counted the pregnancy from the day of embryo transfer. In a natural pregnancy, she would have been counted as 23w6d, from the the date of the last menstrual period. Her case has given false hope to pro-lifers and the parents of impossibly premature infants. At some point, it is hopeless, and attempts at treatment are only cruelty.
Maybe the attempts will advance our ability to save preemies but the babies will suffer and die in the meanwhile. Jayden might have had a 1 in 100000 chance. Maybe his parents should have been the ones to decide if it was worth it.
Thou dareth offend the laws of the high and mighty state to spare an insignicant sponge draining the peoples healthcare resources?
May God bring peace to Jayden and his family.
Tatt
This is supported by the man in the office. The doctor could receive a high level givernment appointment.
If you ever hear a leftist say that countries with socialist healthcare have a lower infant mortality rate, explain this to them:
Premature babies are not counted as “alive”, and therefore, when they die, they are not counted as an infant death.
In America, every live birth goes into the statistics.
She was told this is, in fact, normal for premature babies who get the same kind of care as hers did.
OTOH, had this been a hard core homosexual AIDS case contracted as most such diseases are, I'm sure no expense would have been spared in getting them patched up so they could return to the same lifestyle from which they contracted the disease in the first place.
And gestational age is an EXACT science?? TWO DAYS!! How pathetic! Prayers for mom & dad and family.
No, they are not monsters. They cant save them, even the surfactant enhancers dont work at that age. The technology is not there. The babies die because there is nothing else that can be done. I rather have the baby dead in my arms at that age, than as some medical resident’s lab-rat.
Also people do not survive severe encompassing burns. They are not treated, just kept comfortable.
Some deaths cannot be prevented. It is sad but it is true.
Them's the breaks when bureaucrats make the rules.
It really is quite mind-blowing because they could have not possibly known the exact gestation date of the little guy. What if the due date was off by a week or 2 days? I guess expected mothers should lie when giving the date of their last period.
RIP.
“Miss Capewell, of Great Yarmouth, said: ‘When I asked about my baby’s human rights, the attitude of the doctors seemed to be that he did not have any.
‘They said before 22 weeks he was just a foetus.’”
“just a foetus”
Monsters.
This is Baal revisited with infant sacrifice to the new gods of government.
DEATH PANELS...coming to a town near you soon if Obama and the democrats get their way.
This is so sad! Prayers for this woman. May the Lord help her.
And the pro-abort Choicers always scoff at the "slippery slope" argument against abortion. Heartbreaking.
In America this would be a live birth and counted in the child mortality statistics (if it died - we’d provide heroic measures to save the child).
In Europe and other countries which, supposedly have less infant mortality, this child is counted as “born dead.”
I heard a speaker tell of using the SLED argument to show that aborting an unborn baby is no different than infanticide.
Some “choicers” came up to him after the speech and said “well, you’ve changed our minds”. He ask, “so you’re pro-life now?”
They said “No, we’re pro-infanticide.”
Hidiuos, evil, vile, criminal monsters. How can you allow this in the UK. That the hell is wrong with you people?
Yes they can save them. According to the article, around 1 out of 7 ARE saved. The following also stated in the piece:
But Miss Capewell said: 'After Jayden's death, I looked into other cases and I could not believe that one little girl, Amillia Taylor, is perfectly healthy after being born in Florida in 2006 at 21 weeks and six days - and Jayden was heavier than her.
So do you not read the articles you comment on, or do you actually read them, but plan on changing your screen name to "Chickensoup in my Skull?"
Monsters indeed.
The same doctors who will take a break and have a pint at the pub in the middle of surgery because it's their lunchtime. National healthcare in the U.K.
National healthcare in the U.S.? It will be like kaisercare run by the folks at the DMV. Triage by IVR (interactive voice response).
'If you have a medical emergency, press 1.'
'If you are a member of a protected group, press 1. All others, hang up and try your call again.'
25 years ago a young man was born to my neighbors at 5 months. I had a newborn son at the same time. 18 years later that young man came to my son’s graduation party as they both headed off to college. Thankfully there was no death panel around to debate if Travis could survive.
BTTT.
I fear if Obamacare were to be created that this very sort of evil would also become common here. The Kenyan Clown certainly is personally in favor of infanticide.
Here comes the death panels - this kind of stuff has happened in Oregon already - Oregon being one of two U.S. states to have socialized medicine. Why would anyone think the government could handle something as complex as health care? Or course they’re going to ration it off and make people wait in days long lines for simple care!
I know veterinarians who have worked all night just to save a single premature puppy or kitten.
There is a gestational age assessment tool, which I think the midwife would have used, although in a case like this a neonatologist should confirm if only for the parent’s peace of mind. The decision will not be made by dates alone.
So if there is a baby with sealed eyes, gelatinous skin, flat ears, as Jayden looks to have...the dates seem to be accurate, and survival is the next thing to impossible. We really don’t have the technology to save these babies. What’s needed is not just more of the same, longer in the NICU, but a leap.
Amillia would have been dated 23 weeks something if she were not an IVF baby.
incredibly sad!!!!!
Oh, I disagree with you entirely. I think, and there are those that will be able to verify this happens in the US today.
That baby is considerably more than 21.5 weeks. Are you saying it was born at 21.5 weeks? Who is he or she?
That's just awful. It's also, sadly, unsurprising.
As the mother of a preemie, this makes me cry. My son had a level 2 brain bleed. The prospects for him were very bleek. I keep thinking about him every time I hear the nonsense that Dr. Emanuel is spewing. I keep thinking that he would have been “allowed” to die. F.Y.I. He is now 11 years old. Healthy as a horse. Plays football (center) and baseball, mastered Karate. He is an honor student (first honors). My heart breaks for this lady who will never know what could have been. For the record, I believe my son will be productive enough for those monsters.
Exactly
What is the reaction of the British people to things like this?
Obama supports this policy wholeheartedly. His past proves it:
http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/Index.html
So do I.
Reading this article I put myself in the mother's position -- what would I do? I decided Hubs and I would wrap-up our little one and take him to our excellent (and well-outfitted) vet, who, I believe, would have done his best.
“This is supported by the man in the office. The doctor could receive a high level givernment appointment.”
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In other words, a Czar.
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