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Shocker! Judge orders trial on eligibility issue
WND ^ | 9/8/09 | staff

Posted on 09/08/2009 2:15:45 PM PDT by pissant

A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue.

In a highly anticipated hearing today before Carter, several motions were heard, including a resolution to long-standing questions about whether attorney Orly Taitz properly served notice on the defendants, which she had.

In a second ruling, Carter ordered that attorney Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation can be added to the case to represent defendants Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson, who had been removed by an earlier court order. Drake, the vice presidential candidate for the American Independent Party, and Robinson, the party's chairman, were restored as plaintiffs.

But the judge did not immediately rule on Taitz' motion to be granted discovery – that is the right to see the president's still-concealed records. Nor did Carter rule immediately on a motion to dismiss the case, submitted by the U.S. government, following discussion over Taitz' challenge to the work of a magistrate in the case.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; communistcoup; larrysinclairlsover; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orlytaitz; truthers
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To: MrLuigi
Obama: "Because the terrorist threat continues, the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, and the powers and authorities adopted to deal with that emergency, must continue in effect beyond September 14, 2009. Therefore, I am continuing in effect for an additional year the national emergency the former President declared on September 14, 2001, with respect to the terrorist threat," Obama wrote to Congress."

Obama is thinking can use this to hide my documents? Yeah, that's the ticket! '^)

841 posted on 09/10/2009 8:00:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: TheBigJ

What’s the skinny-
Is Judge Land friend or foe?


842 posted on 09/10/2009 8:04:46 PM PDT by Blu By U
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To: MrLuigi
Well if true, it follows what Judge Carter expressed in his statements at the hearing:

From the OC Register.

"Carter repeated said he was eager to get the matter settled.

“If President Obama fits the qualifications under the rules of the court, the longer the delay the more credibility it lends to the complaint,” he said. “If President Obama does not meet the court’s requirements, the delay also causes a problem.”

He even repeated it...wants this matter expedited.

843 posted on 09/10/2009 8:07:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Blu By U

“Is Judge Land friend or foe?”

I don’t know. In an email from Orly she had these comments:

-—Judge Land was gracious and a real Southern gentleman in that he waived the technical requirement of a signature of the local counsel as a contact.  
I hope that members of the military and other patriots of this country will be in the courtroom to support Cpt. Rhodes MD.


844 posted on 09/10/2009 8:11:22 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Blu By U

I don’t know, no time to research. But we definitely found a gem with Judge Carter. He’s taking care of business before Zero get’s crafty... hope the expediated discovery is verified true.


845 posted on 09/10/2009 8:25:16 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Well it must be nice to feel relieved. While you’re relieving yourself, don’t be pissin’ down someone’s back and callin’ it rain.


846 posted on 09/10/2009 10:29:57 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: little jeremiah

I smell troll, probable retread of someone who travels the stars in her head and has been told to stay off these threads. Whaddaya think?


847 posted on 09/10/2009 10:34:00 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

Some expanded info on Expedited Discovery

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/breaking-news-expedited-discovery.html


848 posted on 09/10/2009 11:19:22 PM PDT by FARS ( Be happy, Be well)
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To: steviep96

I’ve tried my best to understand the unique theory that is prevalant here and I believe that I at least have a rudimentary understanding of it. They think that if a judge discovers evidence indicating that Obama is not a NBC, that the judiciary branch has the authority to invalidate the ‘08 election and remove him from office. And judges are primary “justice seekers”.

This is different from impeachment. They believe that judges have an obligation to see to it that laws and the Constitution are enforced. The following idea is trivia and a judge can easily overlook it:

“Only actual cases and controversies may be heard by the federal courts; the judicial power does not extend to cases which are hypothetical, or which are precluded because of problems with standing, mootness, or ripeness. Generally, a case or controversy requires the presence of adverse parties”

I try to let my imagination wander to see if this theory could possibly have any connection to the real world. It is a difficult mental experiment. I get stuck at the point where it seems clear that the threshold for impeachment would be much lower than the threshold for the judiciary to remove the president, under this alleged authority that they have. And impeachment would come long before Justice Roberts sent an email over to the Joint Chiefs demanding that he remove the POTUS from the premises (outside of the impeachment process).


849 posted on 09/11/2009 12:03:04 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: steviep96

Perhaps we could call this the “Judge as superhero” theory. Judge must act as Attorney General, Detective, prosecutor, grand jury ... 4-in-1 deal. The Constitution demands it and the Republic must be preserved.


850 posted on 09/11/2009 12:08:57 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: FARS

Some expanded info on Expedited Discovery...

Thanks for posting the good news.


851 posted on 09/11/2009 5:28:43 AM PDT by Hang'emAll
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To: FARS

Nothing on Orly’s blog about this so I am going to be cautious.


852 posted on 09/11/2009 6:08:57 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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To: Red Steel

All judges want matters expedited. Whether that means that he wants to see a trial on the merits - whatever they are is one thing.

Or it could mean that he doesn’t want to spend the next year reading badly-written motions and wants to get to dismissal as quickly as possible.

Judges say a lot of things - and most of them are to encourage settlement.

Case in point: back in my days as a law clerk, I was assisting on a property line dispute and the judge said in open court “Settle this before someone gets really hurt.”


853 posted on 09/11/2009 7:02:40 AM PDT by steviep96
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


854 posted on 09/11/2009 7:06:13 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: campaignPete R-CT

The thing is, it doesn’t matter to us either way. If it is proven that Barry O. is a fraud and we already know he is the star of his own sitcom, he will be removed. Period.

There will be no support for him to continue using Air Force One. All and I mean All of his support mechanisms in the Senate and Congress will immediately throw him under the bus.

They and the Judiciary have any number of ways to make life harsh for this caricature. Heck, what if the Congress suddenly stopped sending bills for him to sign, waiting for his replacement?

That would be a huge slap in the face of anyone who is pretending to be something he is not and I guarantee you he will leave, in a D.C. taxi.


855 posted on 09/11/2009 7:35:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: FARS

Has anyone confirmed this with the parties or with Carter’s office?

I can’t get excited until I see verified proof.


856 posted on 09/11/2009 8:36:05 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

here is the order in question
http://c2.api.ning.com/files/bUWvV3M4GoI6VNzFgVb1GoaWei0uXsN9XrrF-pmT7L2*BObmQBy8pU-3iWW0I*tgTyidrJq5LQlEIbOzaRfT4I*nYes0bBpJ/COURTORDER2BARNETTCASE1954707203118728478.pdf


857 posted on 09/11/2009 8:40:25 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; FARS; LucyT
Perhaps October 5th is ‘expedited in Orly's thinking. Nothing in that Carter ruling indicates any subpoenas will be issued before Oct 5.
858 posted on 09/11/2009 9:25:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: RummyChick

http://c2.api.ning.com/files/bUWvV3M4GoI6VNzFgVb1GoaWei0uXsN9XrrF-pmT7L2*BObmQBy8pU-3iWW0I*tgTyidrJq5LQlEIbOzaRfT4I*nYes0bBpJ/COURTORDER2BARNETTCASE1954707203118728478.pdf

OK, any lawyers that can explain this?


859 posted on 09/11/2009 9:38:35 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: FARS

BTTT!


860 posted on 09/11/2009 9:48:59 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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