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Sun-Caused Warming
IBD Editorials ^ | September 8, 2009 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 09/08/2009 5:30:03 PM PDT by Kaslin

Climate Change: A team of international scientists has finally figured out why sunspots have a dramatic effect on the weather. It shows the folly of fearing the SUV while dismissing that thermonuclear furnace in the sky.


Mankind once worshiped the sun. Now the world studiously ignores it as nations prepare to hammer out a successor to the failed Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012, in Copenhagen in December. Something is indeed rotten in Denmark.

Our own government is committed to fighting climate change whether it be though Son of Kyoto or our own growth-capping, job-killing cap-and-trade legislation known as Waxman-Markey.

Despite the sun being the major source of all energy on earth, supporters of man-caused global warming have dismissed the sun's role in climate change. They say the historic 11-year solar cycle changes the amount of energy reaching the earth by about only 0.1% — not enough to account for temperature rises this century.

The Aug. 28 issue of the journal Science details how the scientific team led by the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), using a century's worth of data and three powerful computer models, figured out just how small changes in solar activity can trigger great changes in earth's climate.

The study found that chemicals in the stratosphere and sea surface temperatures during solar maximums act in a way that amplifies the sun's influence. The slight increase in solar energy in the peak production of sunspots is absorbed by stratospheric ozone, warming the air in the tropics where sunlight is most intense.

The additional energy also helps produce more ozone that absorbs even more solar energy. The increased sunlight causes a slight warming of ocean surface waters across the subtropical Pacific.

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1 posted on 09/08/2009 5:30:03 PM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 09/08/2009 5:31:33 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
“Sun-Caused Warming” - What a dullard I am - now it all makes sense!/sarc
3 posted on 09/08/2009 5:35:51 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Apercu

Here Comes The Sun
doo doo doo doo
Here Comes the Sun
And I Say
It’s Alright!


4 posted on 09/08/2009 5:38:41 PM PDT by Radagast the Fool ("Mexico-Beirut with tacos!"--Dr. Zoidberg)
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To: Kaslin
The Aug. 28 issue of the journal Science details how the scientific team led by the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), using a century's worth of data and three powerful computer models, figured out just how small changes in solar activity can trigger great changes in earth's climate.

The key is that they're using reliable data collected over a century for their modeling, and they aren't trying to make Big-A projections from Big-A assumptions about data derived from sources whose accuracy and error ranges are impossible to calculate accurately. Their modeling is limited in scope to trying to understand the chemistry of our atmosphere and how that chemistry is affected by solar activity.

As I try and explain to people all the time - our atmosphere's chemistry is so poorly understood that climate prediction models in favor of global warming that use human carbon emissions as the cause are based on a simplified model that has the conclusion of carbon emission based global warming built-in to the model. In other words, the models are fixed to produce the predicted result.

5 posted on 09/08/2009 5:41:35 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Kaslin
The Aug. 28 issue of the journal Science details how the scientific team led by the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), using a century's worth of data and three powerful computer models, figured out just how small changes in solar activity can trigger great changes in earth's climate.

The key is that they're using reliable data collected over a century for their modeling, and they aren't trying to make Big-A projections from Big-A assumptions about data derived from sources whose accuracy and error ranges are impossible to calculate accurately. Their modeling is limited in scope to trying to understand the chemistry of our atmosphere and how that chemistry is affected by solar activity.

As I try and explain to people all the time - our atmosphere's chemistry is so poorly understood that climate prediction models in favor of global warming that use human carbon emissions as the cause are based on a simplified model that has the conclusion of carbon emission based global warming built-in to the model. In other words, the models are fixed to produce the predicted result.

6 posted on 09/08/2009 5:42:14 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Kaslin

How much money can Algore raise by getting credits for claiming he can change the spots on the Sun?


7 posted on 09/08/2009 5:44:09 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Radagast the Fool

Next we’ll hear about “human-caused” sunspots.


8 posted on 09/08/2009 5:45:18 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: SERKIT

Yep, it’s them rich, white American males, causin’ all them sunspots!!!
And, of course, it’s Bush’s Fault, too!!!!!!


9 posted on 09/08/2009 5:48:17 PM PDT by Radagast the Fool ("Mexico-Beirut with tacos!"--Dr. Zoidberg)
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To: coconutt2000

Where has the Global Warming gone?
Long time passing;
Where has the Global Warming Gone?
Long time ago;
Where has the Global Warming Gone?
Vanish’d with the spots on our old Sun;
When will we ever learn?
When will we ever learn?


10 posted on 09/08/2009 5:50:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Proud Sarah-Bot.)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

11 posted on 09/08/2009 5:53:08 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin
The slight increase in solar energy in the peak production of sunspots is absorbed by stratospheric ozone, warming the air in the tropics where sunlight is most intense. The additional energy also helps produce more ozone that absorbs even more solar energy.

So, OZONE is one of the culprits! Bring back the CFCs.

12 posted on 09/08/2009 6:01:44 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Kaslin
That 0.1% is 4 times larger than the electrical power all of humanity uses. Just that slight change in solar output swamps our TOTAL electrical power consumption.
13 posted on 09/08/2009 6:21:48 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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So, the slight increase in solar output isn’t enough to make a difference?

Here’s my perspective.

It’s going to be considerably colder here in Wasilla 3 months from now. The sun is going to be in the same spot, the earth is going to be in the same orbit, it’s the same planet fer heavens sake, but I’ll be shoveling snow while some joker in cabo is sipping Coronas on the beach.Granted, I’ll be seeing a lot less of the sun, but by the logic of the warm earthers, there shouldn’t be a difference, right?


14 posted on 09/08/2009 6:51:38 PM PDT by Gnomad
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To: Kaslin

I suppose the master plan but the loons will be to shoot icebergs into the sun.


15 posted on 09/08/2009 7:24:40 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama's New New Deal = The Raw Deal)
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To: Gnomad
the earth is going to be in the same orbit

Sort of, but not really.

The Earth's orbit around the sun is variable.

The solar system's position in space vis a vis the galactic plane is variable.

The solar system's position in the galaxy relative to the spiral arms of the galaxy is variable.

The main factors may be the solar magnetic field strength (directly related to sunspots) and the cosmic ray count in the part of the galaxy we are tranversing. The Earth's orbit around the sun may have little effect on climate change compared to how many cosmic rays make it through the solar magnetic shielding.

16 posted on 09/08/2009 7:26:34 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993905/posts)
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17 posted on 09/08/2009 7:48:00 PM PDT by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: Kaslin

I’m sure Obama will appoint a sun czar to figure out how to avoid this crisis by taxing sunspots.


18 posted on 09/08/2009 7:48:12 PM PDT by Jabrown
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We've had a flurry of these. Uh, if you'll pardon the metaphor.
 
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19 posted on 09/08/2009 7:49:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SERKIT
Next we’ll hear about “human-caused” sunspots.

...and he'll do it with a straight face too... ;~))


20 posted on 09/08/2009 7:58:50 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: patriciaruth

Here’s something to add to the discussion.

The Earth is actually farther away from the sun during the summer, and closer in the winter.

The ‘thing’ that makes the difference in our ‘weather’ is the tilt of the Earth, which varies the amount of atmosphere the sun’s rays have to penetrate.


21 posted on 09/08/2009 8:26:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: UCANSEE2
The Earth is actually farther away from the sun during the summer, and closer in the winter.

Not down below!

22 posted on 09/08/2009 8:27:47 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: Kaslin

I guess we should come up with a weapon that can damage the sun in order to prevent the destruction of the planet. /s


23 posted on 09/08/2009 8:38:39 PM PDT by NotSoModerate (Report dissenters to snitch@whitehouse.gov for a $4,500 tax credit)
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To: SERKIT
How much money can Algore raise by getting credits for claiming he can change the spots on the Sun?

Sun spot credits, he should have thought of that before carbon credits. Soon, he will be selling Ice Credits, to cure global cooling and I bet there would be idiots that would buy them.

24 posted on 09/08/2009 8:53:45 PM PDT by calex59 (Hope for a new job counts for creating a job! The dimwits are truly insane.)
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To: Kaslin
Sun-Caused Warming

Dog-caused manbiting!

25 posted on 09/08/2009 9:01:04 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: Kaslin

I had a feeling the sun might be involved but I could just never prove it.


26 posted on 09/09/2009 2:40:16 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Kaslin

Anyone memo’d this to Gore and the other moronic global warming idiots?


27 posted on 09/09/2009 3:10:38 AM PDT by cranked
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To: beaversmom
My tag...

28 posted on 09/09/2009 3:30:51 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -Arthur C Clarke)
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To: beaversmom
I had a feeling the sun might be involved but I could just never prove it.

There is a pile of grant money available to prove the sun isn't involved. Facts aren't required.

29 posted on 09/09/2009 6:28:58 AM PDT by GBA
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