Breaking News Sen. Finance Chairman Baucus Concedes 'Public Option' Can't Pass the Senate

Fox News ^ | 8/9/2009 | Fox news

[mikelets456]

Breaking News Sen. Finance Chairman Baucus Concedes 'Public Option' Can't Pass the Senate

[Jagman]

He was good on Gilligan’s Island, but the rest of his career has been Z-list at best...

[joejm65]

Great! The 567,984th mixed signal on health reform by the Dims. Grab the popcorn and sit in the recliner, these guys are off the wall.

[xcamel]

Max ***-us.

figure it out...

[SE Mom]

Information, dis-information...it’s all flying like a roomful of feathers with a fan switched ON!

[From The Deer Stand]

How about the Baucus proposal that the gub’ment will fine you if you don’t buy health insurance?

[Huskrrrr]

Head fake.

[Jeff Head]

Hehehe...wheels coming off Obama's Magical Mystery Tour bus.

Time to double down on these leftists and knock the axels off.

Not only no public option plan...NO DEM PLAN!

Kill it...kill it dead.

then let the adults craft the necessary change in 2011 after the 2010 landslides.

"President Obama argues that Democrats' "will provide every American with some basic consumer protections that will finally hold insurance companies accountable." Of course consumer protection sounds like a good idea. And it's true that insurance companies can be unaccountable and unresponsive institutions—much like the federal government. That similarity makes this shift in focus seem like nothing more than an attempt to deflect attention away from the details of the Democrats' proposals—proposals that will increase our deficit, decrease our paychecks, and increase the power of unaccountable government technocrats.

"Instead, let's talk about real health-care reform: market-oriented, patient-centered, and result-driven. As the Cato Institute's Michael Cannon and others have argued, such policies include giving all individuals the same tax benefits received by those who get coverage through their employers; providing Medicare recipients with vouchers that allow them to purchase their own coverage; reforming tort laws to potentially save billions each year in wasteful spending; and changing costly state regulations to allow people to buy insurance across state lines. Rather than another top-down government plan, let's give Americans control over their own health care.

"We often hear such overblown promises from Washington. With the facts in hand, tell them that this time we're not buying it." Sarah Palin - September 8, 2009

EZEKIEL EMANUEL AND OBAMA HEALTH CARE
(Must Read - Shocking, cited quotes by Emanuel)

OBAMA HEALTH CARE BY THE NUMBERS

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

OBAMA IS A MARXIST IDEOLOGUE

[Y2Bogus]

You didn’t like Mr Magoo?

[loveliberty2]

Lots of head fakes going on.

Tonight's speech will, undoubtedly, employ "words" crafted and designed to get what the forces behind his presidency want the speech to accomplish.

As they critique it, those who value liberty must keep that fact uppermost in their minds. Else, they will get lost in the technicalities and "issues" of parsing phrases.

The big picture is individual liberty and prosperity for future generations through constitutionally limited power granted to government versus collective subservience to coercive control (tyranny) by government. The first is the successful and authentic idea of America's Founders, and the second is a counterfeit idea which has been tried and has always failed to make the lives of people better.

By his own claim in a campaign speech, "words matter." We must remember that "words" are only vehicles that carry ideas, and even the chosen exercise in semantics being thrown around gives the clue. What is the role of a trigger on a weapon? It is certainly not to cause the weapon not to fire! What a stupid choice of words.

If a person is intent on taking his cargo from Point A to Point B, and finds there are such obstacles to traveling by airplane that he decides, for expediency's sake, to take it by bus instead, except for the time involved, there is no difference in outcome. The cargo still goes from Point A to Point B. Changing the mode of transportation didn't change that fact.

Changing the semantics of the mode of getting the billions (trillions) of dollars involved in health care in America under the control of powerful "people controllers" in Washington, D. C., will not change the outcome and consequences. It will only serve to delay the onset of those consequences.

Calling the vehicle a "public option," a "trigger," a "cooperative," or by any other word should not confuse Americans about the cargo's eventual fate. The Far Left wants to transfer this large percentage of the American economy to the control of the state. Congress, the Senate, and the Administration need to be told "no" in no uncertain terms.

Changing the description is just an exercise in semantics. The destination already has been made clear, and it's not in the direction of liberty.

[ConservativeMan55]

bump

[mockingbyrd]

That’s not going to make your plan any more palatable.

[ridesthemiles]

Baucus has finally been awakened from his ‘Rip Van Winkle’ sleep???

Baucus must take lesson in denial from the black mothers in ‘the hood’ who always claim their dead/dying sons were good boys- never in trouble- always went to chruch on Sunday-etc-etc-.

These persons never see the gun in the hands of their offspring.
Baucus doesn’t see the gun in NObama’s hands, either, with this ‘health care plan’.

[Dixie Yooper]

Kill the Bill before it destroys what’s left of your career!

[ridesthemiles]

Baucus has finally been awakened from his ‘Rip Van Winkle’ sleep???

Baucus must take lesson in denial from the black mothers in ‘the hood’ who always claim their dead/dying sons were good boys- never in trouble- always went to chruch on Sunday-etc-etc-.

These persons never see the gun in the hands of their offspring.
Baucus doesn’t see the gun in NObama’s hands, either, with this ‘health care plan’.

[Dallas59]

Or is it just called something else now?

[SE Mom]

http://twitter.com/SenArlenSpecter

This U.S. Senator is going to tell him (the President) emphatically that we need the public option. http://tinyurl.com/kwykdh\

[mikelets456]

Good point, they’ll probably rename it “Operation soaring eagle...”

[bcsco]

Information, dis-information...it’s all flying like a roomful of feathers with a fan switched ON!

Exactly. Reid/Pelosi saying they have the votes, even today. Anything coming out of the Democrat side is suspect. All we can do at this point is hear what Obambi has to say and go from there.

[y6162]

Mary Anne or Ginger?

[Roklok]

I think that was Jim Backus on Gilligans Island.

[JoenTX]

Is this necessarily “breaking news?”

This has been said numerous over the last month......Conrad, Nelson, Baucus before.

I don’t think anything has changed to make the Senate more friendly to it.

[madinmadtown]

I agree. I don't believe a word they say. It seems to me a ruse so that after Barry gives his speech tonight they can say how persuasive and enlightening he was. He was able to remove all doubts about the stealth health plan. He is such a remarkable speaker and so intelligent that he changed all the wavering minds in Congress.
Otherwise, it makes no sense for Barry to go there. There has to be the appearance that there is some dissent among the Dems. Barry has to appear to be the superman coming to the rescue.

[Huskrrrr]

Mary Anne!

[RRTJSP...........]

Ginger.........

[JoenTX]

Mary Anne, baby! No matter how they tried to portray her she was always cuter than Ginger.

[r9etb]

Mary Anne or Ginger?

Yes.

[silverleaf]

Looks like Olympia was not Snowed....this time...yet.

[kara37]

The Dummies are even awakening. They are starting to realize that they are going to have to pay for health Insurance, or pay a fine. They are shocked!

They just thought they could get free health care, paid for, by all the really rich people.

[y6162]

Ginger was better proportioned and had less body fat.

[envisio]

>>>Mary Anne or Ginger?<<<<

Either one will do, thanks.

[The Sons of Liberty]

think that was Jim Backus on Gilligans Island.

Those guys in congress ARE clowns, only no one is laughing.

[Constitution Day]

Both. Oh my.

[SueRae]

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/09/dana-perino-watch-media-spins-obamas-speech/

Funny you should say that. I was just going to post the above link (Dana Perino)

[y6162]

That's Ok Mary Anne, my mug shot wasn't too good either.

[eyedigress]

“Best damn conservative the island ever had”

[petercooper]

[TADSLOS]

Reality Check.

(we now return you to regular programming)

[petercooper]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rutles4Ever]

Didn’t he promise during his townhall meeting that he would not vote for such a bill?

[Constitution Day]

That was just mean, interrupting my fantasy like that.

[OafOfOffice]

Public option is now a trigger if private insurance does not do exactly as obama says, the trigger is activated.So you can be sure the public option will be triggered asap. This was traitor rino snowes idea.

[TADSLOS]

Just pointing out the metaphor with Obamacare. Red pills and public option healthcare won’t be Ginger and Mary Anne circa 1964.

[scottywr]

OK lets see....

The reason why insurance companies cannot deal across state lines is because different states mandate different levels minimum coverage individually. So it seems to me that the problem with the big bad insurance companies is a government problem anyway. Eliminate any government mandates on levels of coverage and let the companies offer total cafeteria type plans where customers can choose exactly how much coverage they want and exactly how much they want to pay for it. Put sunsets on non-chronic preexisting conditions.

Revise tort law to a loser pay system.

Let small business pool and get bids for health plans across state lines.

Seems pretty simple to me.

[chris_bdba]

Nancy says one without a public option can’t ass the house? What happens to a bill the house and senate can’t agree on? No bill at all?

[Clioman]

No bill at all? It’s got my vote!

[Ann Archy]

FAKE OUT!! He has enough votes by Dems to pass it.....Obama doesn’t want to be upstaged tonite so Maxy will wait a few days.

[b4its2late]

Government Option. That’s what it is, so that’s what it should be called.

[fightinJAG]

I don’t care who you are, that’s funny.

[Liz]

DEMOCRAT'S SLICE BALONEY Con artist pols are trying to dupe the public:

(1) Pelosi is gaga over the bill's "trigger" that would "invoke" the public option;

(2) the "Co-op" idea IS a public option since the gov't will run it.

One Democratic leadership aide who sat in on the Pelosi/Reid Biden/Obama briefing said that while Obama will offer support for a public option, he will not insist on it. “He’s going to say a public option is the best tool for reducing costs,” the aide said. “I think he’s going to be a bit noncommittal”...........

This is a sop to Obama's lefty pals......he's got big problems with them after he threw Van Jones under the bus.