Skip to comments.On the Job: Employers struggle with unprepared college grads
Posted on 09/12/2009 5:38:18 PM PDT by george76
Within the past year Sarah Schupp has hired five new employees with freshly minted college degrees. She fired one on his first day for inappropriate sexual comments to a co-worker. Another lasted a week before getting a pink slip.
..." you can't call in sick at 7:45 a.m. just because you don't want to come to work at 8 a.m."
Jeanne Achille also was disappointed with the hiring of a recent college hire, promoted by a university professor as a "superstar" and fired after three weeks when it was discovered she spent hours online at work visiting a dating site. She also tweeted about a night of partying -- then e-mailed in sick the next day.
"Just who is supposed to be preparing these kids for the workplace?"
"Employers have always complained about a lack of hard and soft skills. The problem is that now employers don't have the luxury of letting employees learn on the job."
With only 15 employees, Achille says that "we don't go into a hiring decision lightly in this economy," and says no company can afford to put money into training new workers -- those dollars are reserved for "top talent," she says.
"We've decided to just not offer this position to an entry-level person anymore," Achille says. "We've had some good college students come and work here in the past, but we just can't afford to lose the productivity. It costs us money."
(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...
The Obama “It’s all about me” voters.
The Obama/MTV Generation.
Would the last honest, hard-working American please turn out the light?
Sounds like where I work but they keep most of them for some reason. When a special needs type is on the path for termination, it usually takes a few months unless it something really big.
Garbage In - Garbage Out
Tomany American College Campuses are infested with liberal buffoon professors.
You teach garbage, you graduate garbage..
So then they want experienced people, but still only offer them 22k a year...and wonder why they can’t find a decent employee.
They loved her! Apparently this kind of work ethic is not as common as it used to be.
Haha, you must work for my company =P
I taught high school until about 5 years ago. I used to think how frightening it was that these were the folks who were going to be running things in a few years. Of course, I had some wonderful students, but most were lazy, couldn’t follow directions and thought life was going to be handed to them on a silver platter.
On the other hand, I remember thinking, after I got out of college, that it hadn’t really prepared me for a job.
Sound advice. She will likely always have a job. Good job Mom!
That's a good one...
Well it will be if they keep voting Democrat.
Welcome to the "employer's market" sweetie. Yes, it did happen overnight--enjoy!
They loved her! Apparently this kind of work ethic is not as common as it used to be.
She is very lucky to have a Mom like you.
Children learn their work ethic from their parents.
We can start by doing what the greatest president of our time wanted to do. Abolish the Dept of Education. This dept. is totally worthless and a mega cash drain.
And in case you don’t know which president I was referring to—Can you spell Reagan?
HA...when I graduated in 1983 with an MBA...all I could think is...NOW I know how much I DON’T KNOW! But, then, I had life and work experience
Its the old saying we always used about inputting bad computer data, it works on the metronerds coming out of the lib mills today!:
GARBAGE IN = GARBAGE OUT!
Its just as Elegant and Precis an Equatio as is that Most Beautiful of All:
Now OBOZO wants every U.S. Inhabitant to be a College Graduate! He doesn’t believe in Our Craftsmen, and All Productive Citizens who dont need to waste four to five years of their life learning about the details of the Lint in their Navels!
One of the lessons of work life is there are good bosses and bad bosses. There are many good bosses out there so don't waste any time with the bad ones.
“Apparently this kind of work ethic is not as common as it used to be.”
If you attended/graduated college, it’s been awhile.
The sense of entitlement for a lot of college kids these days
is simply jaw-dropping.
My Professor sister-in-law runs into it all the time.
You gave your daughter the golden advice. As a retired govt. manager, a person with that work ethic is highly valued.
The worker still needs to be smart and good at his or her job, but the work ethic and the ability to stay out of the vicious gossip circles is critically missing in so many workers.
I have advised all three of my children about this for years. I believe they have taken my advice and appear to be accepted in places where they have worked.
There are many lessons to be learned over the years to be successful, but you have given your daughter the one she needed as an interm.
You must be a good mom.
Well, I have a job - for which I’m thankful. There are promotion opportunities, but, even my boss’s boss doesn’t make as much money as I did 5 years ago.
Very few parents, high schools, and colleges think they need to teach personal responsibility. They used to.
More “stupid” than unprepared?
One thing the article doesn’t directly read, is that these companies are recruiting college kids.
There are many older people like myself who can’t even get a look by these same whiners.
Ding ding ding din ding ding!
We have the winner!
I'm too busy!
I'll get right on that, as soon as I fire the rest of the Union no loads and drunks.
The informaton in this article is no surprise to me. I suspect that it is fairly common knowledge that the educational system in America is ineffective. It is a failure, and intentionally so.
That is if you see a satisfactory education producing students who have mastered basic skills (the 3 Rs), the ability to think critically and a desire to become successful at whatever field of employment they choose. That is just one view of a successful education.
Sadly that is not the view that prevails today in American education. As long ago as 1983 a woman, I forget her name, who headed up the United States Department of Education described another model. She was addressing the annual gathering of governors.
She began her remarks by pointing out that those who felt the education system to be inadequate did not understand the reality of the system. According to her, educators were engaged in a total transformation of society. Without going into too much detail I will say that there were two things that struck me about her comments on the video I was watching.
One was that she was speaking to the nation’s governors. They were being made aware of the “total transformation’ American educators were initiating on American society.
Secondly, I was reminded of the changes John Dewey implemented in the educational system. This icon of American education opened the first “laboratory school” in New York in 1896. He was a socialist and an enemy of the capitalistic economic system in America.
He indicated that teaching children to read when they entered school was a mistake. He intended to first shape their “attitudes and opinions”. Reading would come after that.
Now we have students who can’t read receiving high school dipl;omas they can’t read. We have several generations of citizens who are ignorant and without the skills to become productive.
No, the article doesn’t surprise me at all. It is scary to consider that America’s governors know what is happening to young American children and to our society. I think Barack Obama could only have been elected POTUS because of American education.
I would bet you really nailed it!!
Don’t hire liberal arts majors.
I just hate their luck, pay a decent wage and you will get good employees. 20% of employees produce 80% of the work, the hard part is finding that 20%.
Not every kid is cut out for college. Some look at college as another 4 years of high school. They take classes like underwater basketweaving and wonder why they cant land a job.
My advice to any kid who dont feel like going to college but want a good job, either join the military of take up a building trade like bricklaying or plumbing. They can make a killing and even though it is dirty work, you can at least look at a house you helped build and say “ I did that”.
At Digital Equipment Corp., the longer a manager was there, the worse she got.
She like all employers needs to use a professional for hiring newbies. We’re less impressed by the sheepskin, more by evidence of the virtues of modern work. Can you read and write? Could you get to work on time everyday? Can you work in the group without causing upset? Chances are the jobs she’s hiring for don’t really require a degree, but someone has told her that grads are better people. They are not.
You never know if someplace is desperate for an employee that can start right away, but if you walk in dressed in shabby jeans, a T Shirt, and flip flops, you will not be considered for that job.
Also treat every single employee that you meet during that first encounter with sincerity and respect. They probably will be asked by the boss for their first impressions. First impressions are the KEY to any eventual employment.
All advice I gave my 3 boys, all but my youngest (15) are currently employed. The other piece of advice I passed along was, in this world there are 2 kinds of people, doers and talkers. Talkers talk because they can’t or won’t do, doer don’t need to talk because they do. Don’t be a talker, be a doer, and you will never lack for a job opportunity. They listened and I have a teenager working in an almost 26% unemployment rate for teens, and a 20 something at the top of his field as a personal trainer in this slow economy. The youngest is having a bit of trouble finding a way to get in the door during this down economy, but he will also prevail after his birthday I have no doubt-(easier at 16 than 15 to find work)
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants,not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when eleders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond
words When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of
elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and
impatient of restraint (Hesiod, 8th century BC).
What I’m doing doesn’t require a degree, and it’s a quite important job.
So that explains why I am the way I am...
Many kids can not make change in a grocery store, fast food joint...only using their brain.
We see many art history majors and such hitting their career high at Starbucks serving coffee.
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