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ACORN Health Care Plan
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Posted on 09/12/2009 5:54:33 PM PDT by Hanna548

This is ACORN's idea of what health care reform should be. I can't think of anything else to say;/


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: acorn; blackcorruption; blackparasites; healthcare; plan
Still can't think of anything else to say, other than KILL IT before it multiplies!!!
1 posted on 09/12/2009 5:54:33 PM PDT by Hanna548
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To: Hanna548
Give low- and moderate-income members of the community a proportional share of seats on the governing boards of all hospitals.

WHY????

WHAT EXACTLY DO THESE "low- and moderate-income members of the community" CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY?????

2 posted on 09/12/2009 5:58:57 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Hanna548
Check out this direct quote from SEIU bylaws

We must organize unorganized Healthcare workers, extending to them the gains of unionism while securing control over the Healthcare industry.

SEIU bylaws pdf
3 posted on 09/12/2009 5:59:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Hanna548

If this organization and the socialist idiots weren’t so dangerous, I would be laughing at this ludicrous screed...

Hey ACORN go see what the commies have in Russia and Cuba!

Yeah, doctors on set fees...Check.
No “technological gadgets”.... Check.

24 hour house calls, immediate service in all areas of the city.....uh, no.


4 posted on 09/12/2009 5:59:22 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Hanna548

A. At Hospitals
Communism
B. In the medical professions:
Slavery
C. At the health insurance companies:
Eliminate them by making them free and run by collectivists
D. In the government:
Medicare as Socialism
E. Doctors as slaves
F. Doctors as slaves
G. Communism
H. More Communism


5 posted on 09/12/2009 5:59:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I really don’t mind offering healthcare to “low and moderate income “ people ( assuming we have a rational healthcare policy—not Obamacare...)

At least they are working...not worried about them.

ITS THE OVERHWELMING PARASITES THAT DON’T WORK THAT I AM UPSET ABOUT!


6 posted on 09/12/2009 6:01:59 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: freedumb2003

Hey, in Germany the docs get a salary...HA! Boy do you have a wait..ha. and sure they really are at the forefront of the latest. ha.


7 posted on 09/12/2009 6:03:11 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; All
The clinics provide all types of basic care, including ob/gyn, pediatrics, and preventative care, as well as the following types of services. 1. House calls. 2. 24 Hour telephone service. 3. Ambulance service. 4. A mini-bus to bring neighborhood residents to the clinic. 5. Mobile paramedics.

Why not add one more? 6. Limousine service
8 posted on 09/12/2009 6:04:02 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

they are so stupid and ignorant it is beyond belief..It is mind boggling...

Its is the entitled idiots that 40 years of Entitlement given by “pretend socialists who have never lived in a socialist state” that have “threatend “us with “riots’ for the last Alinsky 40 years!


9 posted on 09/12/2009 6:08:01 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I think that we need to spread this information far and wide, and FAST.


10 posted on 09/12/2009 6:09:12 PM PDT by Hanna548 (s)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I am done holding my tongue with these people. They are lazy, illiterate parasites and have no right to my or your tax money.

If libs want to hand over their money to them, that is their right. DO not force everyone to.


11 posted on 09/12/2009 6:14:23 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The only problem is that money isn’t enough. They want power and control more than anything.

Worst of all they want power and control as a means of punishing those who ever have or will oppose them. Obama is trained to tone it down but even he can’t really hide it.


12 posted on 09/12/2009 6:18:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Hanna548; All

One of my favorites:

What Do ACORN Organizers Do?

http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=8530&L=0%2Findex.php%253.


13 posted on 09/12/2009 6:19:00 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: cripplecreek

Read these if you aren’t already Furious:

http://acorn.org/fileadmin/Press_Releases/roger_ailes_091009.pdf

http://acorn.org/fileadmin/Press_Releases/roger_ailes_091109.pdf


14 posted on 09/12/2009 6:21:51 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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Read these if you aren’t already Furious:

http://acorn.org/fileadmin/Press_Releases/roger_ailes_091009.pdf

http://acorn.org/fileadmin/Press_Releases/roger_ailes_091109.pdf


15 posted on 09/12/2009 6:22:08 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA; All

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (“ACORN”) has begun a careful
investigation into the doctored videotape being played by FOX News, on line and on the air,
allegedly showing an ACORN staffer in Baltimore giving dubious tax advice to people claiming
to be a pimp and a prostitute.
It is very clear that the questions being asked are a voiceover, placed on the tape by the film
maker. The staffer involved claims that the questions she was asked were not the questions
asked by the voiceover online. In fact, she denies ever giving tax advice to people identifying
themselves as a pimp and a prostitute.
These tapes were clearly filmed several months ago. They are not “news”; they are a form of
“art.” FOX News certainly had time, if it believed that the tapes had news value, to ask ACORN
to review the tapes and to comment about their accuracy.
***********

After looking at the law, it is our conclusion that the filming and broadcast of the conversations
at the Baltimore ACORN offices violates §10-402(a)(1) of the Courts and Judicial Proceedings
Article of the Maryland Code, which makes it unlawful to wilfully intercept, endeavor to
intercept, or procure any other person to intercept any oral conversation unless all parties to the
communication consent. FOX News, the filmmakers, and the producer of the videos have
clearly violated this statute. It is also our belief that the tape broadcast today, involving
ACORN’s Washington, D.C. office, violates §23-542 of the D.C. Code in that the conversation was recorded for no purpose other than to cause injury.

ACORN and the women whose conversations were taped have authorized us to commence an action for damages and injunctive relief addressed to FOX News, the producer of the videos, and the filmmakers. We demand, in advance of that litigation, that FOX immediately withdraw the videos from the air and from the internet until a court rules on the lawfulness of the distribution and broadcast of the videos.


16 posted on 09/12/2009 6:23:52 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I am hopeful that the tide has turned with what we saw today in DC...Americans are tired of being taken by threats of riots, etc...and THAT is what has kept the Lefties game going for so long.

The shouts of ‘racist’ is now also not working as this is being reframed as “The Race Card” and thus loses its impact.


17 posted on 09/12/2009 6:24:04 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Hanna548

The Movie IDIOCRACY can’t match this imbecilic DRIVEL.


18 posted on 09/12/2009 6:25:59 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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Where F* is Michael Moore?????
19 posted on 09/12/2009 6:27:04 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Hanna548

Sorry but I’ll provide my comments later. I have to go take a shower... I feel dirty after visiting that site.


20 posted on 09/12/2009 6:32:15 PM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Sure! Let uneducated, unexprienced locals, some of them on welfare all their lives, sit on the board of a multi million dollar business and make decisions. I once served on the board of a subsidized preschool program where parents were allowed input--unfreakinbelieveable! what they came up with--and were treated as though they were phds with valuable input just as a feel good experiment. It was effective in lifting egos, but unproductive as far as the program went, time consuming, and very boring. There must be a cheaper way to make unproductive people feel good than allowing them to play let's pretend in places where they are totally out of their depth.

In fact, I am thinking some of the above described people wrote this list of "I wants". The most pernicious requirement is "equal care for all. I think that means--"working stiffs needing heart by-pass, you cannot have it unless this illegal welfare recipient can get it, too. What? You can pay; they can't? Makes no difference. If all can't get it, it will not be offered."

But wait! They want to quit spending on high tech equipment, so heart surgery is out anyway.

One question--Where in all this remake of health care do alternative treatments stand? The govt. has been steadily squeezing out many proven alternative remedies.

vaudine

21 posted on 09/12/2009 6:39:53 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Red in Blue PA

They can’t have it both ways. Either the tape plays their voices or it’s faked.


22 posted on 09/12/2009 6:41:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: vaudine

You’ve stepped into a minefield when you kvetch about parents having influence at schools. I hope you realize that.


23 posted on 09/12/2009 6:43:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: Hanna548

They think we’re their aphids, there for them to milk.


24 posted on 09/12/2009 6:44:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: Hanna548

Incompetent document is offered by ACORN...assume Obama approves it.

Communist fantasy at its worst.

Just one comment about hospital structures and buildings: architects begin with govt. mandated rules of construction down to the fractions of an inch and choice of materials, etc. The high cost of hospitals and even private medical buildings arises as they must adhere to vastly costly govt. mandated building codes codes, even if they survive as proposed, the state and federal approval process is in itself prohibitory and unnecessarily costly. Non-medical staffing of hospitals is mostly concerned with govt. compliance issues and mandates, and is the major cost of administration.


25 posted on 09/12/2009 6:44:32 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; All

The people ACORN serves and probably its members too, drive up the cost of living for working Americans.....everything from car insurance (they don’t buy it; sue alot), medicine (they don’t buy it; sue alot), home protection (alarm, guns etc), goods in stores (theft).

When will the American worker be reimbursed for working extra years of his life to pay for these parasites????????

I for one, am fed up with this underclass that I must pay for.

Screw them all.


26 posted on 09/12/2009 6:50:16 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I'm not talking about parents having influence in school, as in being heard and considered, interested and helpful. I am talking about them having slots on the actual board deciding personnel matters, spending, curriculum, etc.

As a teacher, I once had a conference with a parent whose child was flunking English-8th grade. He shrugged and said"I flunked English, and it ain't never hurt me none." This parent should sit on the decision making board? LOL

vaudine

27 posted on 09/12/2009 6:51:14 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Hanna548

And we’re funding this commie organization? (and Obama was one of its lawyers)

Joe Wilson is right!


28 posted on 09/12/2009 6:54:07 PM PDT by ThomasMore (Patrick Henry and Joe Wilson...Patriots past and present!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

<WHAT EXACTLY DO THESE “low- and moderate-income members of the community” CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY?????

Not much. I remember decades ago when the ‘community’ was invited to participate more in school planning. I remember my mother talking about people with no college, no training, no knowledge of history, administration, whatever, trying to tell the schools what to do.

I know a lot of FReepers dislike teachers and public schools, and god knows you don’t need a college degree to have an opinion about education, but there’s a difference between an opinion and an educated opinion.

Same thing for sitting on hospital boards. I do not want the great unwashed (yeah, call me a snob, that’s fine) in control of institutions that require licensing, high levels of education, training, and accreditation.


29 posted on 09/12/2009 7:09:44 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: Hanna548

<a. Require doctors - whose education is subsidized by the federal government - to work for three years in an area where there is a shortage of personnel.

Didn’t the Chinese do something similar by forcing all the educated people out to the rice paddies for a few years?


30 posted on 09/12/2009 7:13:42 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: radiohead

The day this happens is the day pimps and hoes are on hospital boards.

(and to the DUers who may be lurking, no, that is not racist.....go watch the videos)


31 posted on 09/12/2009 7:16:12 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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Permit doctors and dentists to advertise prices and require price posting.

Now, that's not a half bad idea. The rest of it is rubbish

32 posted on 09/12/2009 7:17:11 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: Hanna548

[Force hospitals to concentrate on providing basic quality care instead of wasting huge sums on showcase buildings and technological gadgets.]

Perhaps some empty crack housing in the barrio can be converted.


33 posted on 09/12/2009 7:20:50 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Hanna548

There goes the best health care system in the world.


34 posted on 09/12/2009 7:22:04 PM PDT by maggief (He had a dream. We got a nightmare!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

acorn got caught pure and simple
and it’s happening all over the country and now obama had drppped their job with the census taking so theu are pretty much.screwed and bisted


35 posted on 09/12/2009 7:34:52 PM PDT by mahalo1
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To: Hanna548
c. Prohibit discrimination by health insurance companies on the basis of race, sex, geography, income, age, or health status.

Hey, you forgot "sexual orientation!"

36 posted on 09/12/2009 7:35:04 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: vaudine

” This parent should sit on the decision making board? LOL


Don’t laugh. He’s probably already President of the Board of his community organization and getting several hundred million of the stimulus money without strings.


37 posted on 09/12/2009 8:01:17 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (bigger government = smaller people)
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To: Red in Blue PA

These are the looters and moochers straight out of Atlas Shrugged. Producers in our society are totally screwed. It makes my blood boil!!!!!


38 posted on 09/12/2009 8:08:56 PM PDT by balls
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To: Red in Blue PA
This should be taken all the way to the Supreme Court, if necessary.

Those people filmed were representing ACORN, a tax-funded enterprise, not private individuals. We should be able expose misuse of our tax dollars without fear of going to jail!

39 posted on 09/12/2009 8:16:47 PM PDT by balls
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To: cripplecreek

BINGO


40 posted on 09/12/2009 8:33:52 PM PDT by Hanna548 (s)
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To: vaudine

Don’t forget they are also supposed to be given preference in Medical Schools as well.


41 posted on 09/12/2009 8:41:45 PM PDT by Hanna548 (s)
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To: Hanna548

At hospitals:

a.Prohibit hospitals from turning away any patient who needs medical care. (already law, IDIOTS)

b. Give low- and moderate-income members of the community a proportional share of seats on the governing boards of all hospitals.

c. Force hospitals to concentrate on providing basic quality care instead of wasting huge sums on showcase buildings and technological gadgets.

d. Enforce federal legislation that requires uniform minimum standards of operation for nursing homes.

In the medical professions:

a. Require doctors - whose education is subsidized by the federal government - to work for three years in an area where there is a shortage of personnel.

b. Prosecute local chapters of the American Medical Association if they continue to fix prices for doctors’ services.

c. Permit doctors and dentists to advertise prices and require price posting.

d. Prohibit doctors and dentists from refusing Medicaid and Medicare patients, and from billing more than Medicaid and Medicare recommended prices for the services they provide.

e. Place members of the community on all medical licensing boards.

C. At the health insurance companies:

a. Throw doctors and hospital administrators off the boards of directors, and replace them with a low- and moderate-income majority.

b. Require insurance companies to control hospital costs and medical fees rather than passing them on to their customers.

c. Prohibit discrimination by health insurance companies on the basis of race, sex, geography, income, age, or health status.

d. Provide all women with the services of midwives without the constraints and restrictions of the medical profession. Require all third party reimbursement to provide direct payment to certified nurse midwives.

D. In the government:

1. Reform Medicaid and Medicare by:

a. Raising income and assets limits for eligibility and removing the spend- down requirement.

b. Financing in-home care for the elderly as an alternative to nursing home care.

c. Including dental care and other preventative treatment in all Medicaid and Medicare plans.

d. Allowing Medicare and Medicaid recipients unlimited nursing home care.

e. Providing direct competitive payments to non-physician health care providers.

2. Charge state governments with setting maximum prices for basic hospital and medical services.

3. Require proportional representation of low- and moderate-income people on all health planning boards.

4. Require generic substitution options and price postings of subscription drugs.

5. Require the federal government to provide for the health care needs of recent immigrants.

II. Create a national health care system, along the following lines:

A. All medical costs are covered, by a combination of insurance, health maintenance organizations, free public health service. and sliding scale payments based on income.

B. The system is progressively financed.

C. The system is controlled by democratically elected community-based committees.

D. There is a 24-hour, 7 day-a-week medical care / emergency room available in every neighborhood, based in neighborhood clinics. The clinics provide all types of basic care, including ob/gyn, pediatrics, and preventative care, as well as the following types of services.

1. House calls.

2. 24 Hour telephone service.

3. Ambulance service.

4. A mini-bus to bring neighborhood residents to the clinic.

5. Mobile paramedics.

E. Doctors are on set salaries.

F. Medical education is financed by the government, in exchange for which doctors are required to serve in the public health service for a period of at least ten years.

G. Special emphasis is placed on preventive health care with free universal care and more adequate research on the most important facets of preventive medicine, including dental care, chiropractic, nutrition, prenatal care and vaccination.

H. Special emphasis is placed on maintaining a healthy environment, with the public health service responsible for strict enforcement of standards on: environmental quality, occupational health and safety, sanitation, foods, and drugs.

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In other words, TURN OVER HEALTHCARE TO ACORN so they can screw it up like they do everything else.

They already run the IRS!!!

R I C O !!!!!!!!!


42 posted on 09/12/2009 8:46:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Hanna548

So people with zero medical training and little, or no, education want to make our medical decisions!!!!!!!!!!! like those women giving out tax advice on the BigGovernment.com site this week??????


43 posted on 09/12/2009 9:18:02 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Red in Blue PA
WHAT EXACTLY DO THESE "low-income members of the community" CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY?????

STD's, crack babies, gun shot casualties, drug addicts, criminals,etc,etc. Yeah, we really need low lifes running our hospitals.

44 posted on 09/12/2009 9:25:38 PM PDT by metalurgist (Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't go without a fight.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Low and moderate income is Acorn speak for WELFARE RAT.
Their income is a monthly welfare check.


45 posted on 09/12/2009 9:29:20 PM PDT by metalurgist (Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't go without a fight.)
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To: metalurgist

Yeesh, i must be really naive still...ha.
i am thinking of the previous generation that actually worked to be low income.


46 posted on 09/13/2009 5:22:48 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: vaudine

>>Sure! Let uneducated, unexprienced locals, some of them on welfare all their lives, sit on the board of a multi million dollar business and make decisions.<<

They tried that in L.A. It was called Martin Luther King Drew Medical Center and was shut down for gross incompetence.


47 posted on 09/13/2009 6:52:11 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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