Posted on 09/12/2009 6:33:57 PM PDT by Coleus
(CNSNews.com) - In his address to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night, President Barack Obama said the health care plan he is pushing will not provide federal money for abortions. But pro-life congressmen and Planned Parenthood agree that abortion would be covered under the plan under an amendment sponsored by Rep. Lois Capps (D.-Calif.). One more misunderstanding I want to clear up, Obama said Wednesday night. Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions.
Pro-life members of Congress and Stop the Abortion Mandate, a coalition of pro-life groups, responded to Obamas remarks at a press conference Thursday on Capitol Hill. Rep. Joseph Pitts (R-Pa..) co-sponsored an amendment with Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) that would prohibited federal funding of abortion in the health care plan, but it was voted down by the House Energy and Commerce Committee. Pitts said the bill will use taxpayer dollars to fund abortions. He also said an amendment sponsored by Rep. Lois Capps (D-Calif.) that was approved by the committee will actually mandate federal payment for elective abortions.

Kristan Hawkins, executive director of Students for Life of America, holds a symbolic voided check for millions of dollars payable to abortion clinics. Other groups taking part in the Sept. 10, 2009 "Void the Abortion Mandate" campaign include Democrats for Life and the Susan B. Anthony List. There has been some recent confusion surrounding the inclusion of abortion coverage in HR 3200, but the issue is really quite clear, Pitts said at the press conference. The Capps Amendment, which some have argued is neutral on abortion, explicitly authorizes the federal government to directly fund elective abortions using federal funds drawn on a federal treasury account.
Some have argued that HR 3200 will maintain the status quo on the issue of abortion, Pitts said. Let me be clear. This bill, in all of its forms, will radically expand federal policy with respect to abortion. This legislation will not only expand the government funding, it will also provide additional venues, Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.) said at the press conference. The language is very clear about having a private insurance provider--government subsidized through these affordability credits--that will provide abortions. Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Campaign, said that any money collected by the government are federal funds, including those that would be collected for government health care plans.
The reality is that the Obama-backed House bill would explicitly authorize the federal government insurance plan to pay for elective abortions and would explicitly authorize subsidies for private abortion insurance--and all with federal dollars, which are the only kind of dollars the federal government can spend, Johnson said.

Johnsons organization recently issued a memorandum on abortion and health care reform, including describing what it calls the Hyde Amendment Myth. The Henry Amendment prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for abortions through Medicaid, except in cases of rape, incest or a threat to the life of the mothers. But the Hyde Amendment does not apply to the health-care bill. In reality, the Hyde Amendment is not a government-wide law--it applies only to funds appropriated through the annual appropriations bill that funds the Department of Health and Human Services, says the memorandum.
Pro-life advocates arent alone in their conclusion that the House bill will allow federally funded abortions. The non-partisan Web site, Factcheck.org agreed in its own analysis of the bill. Despite what Obama said, the House bill would allow abortions to be covered by a federal plan and by federally subsidized private plans, the analysis said. Planned Parenthood, which was assured by Obama during his presidential campaign that his health plan will provide essential services, including reproductive services, has expressed its support for the House bill.
In a Sept. 3 article on the Daily Kos Web site, Planned Parenthood Vice President Laurie Rubiner explained that the Capps amendment mandates that at least one insurance plan offering services to federally subsidized insurance purchasers must cover abortion. Rubiner described this as a compromise with what she called anti-choice groups. But the fact of the matter is that the amendmenteven as described by Rubinermandates that people buying health insurance with federal dollars be able to buy abortion coverage.
In late August, Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA) offered an amendment as a straightforward response to concerns raised by anti-choice groups. While no other medical procedure is singled out for exclusion in any of the bills, in order to move reform forward, anti-choice organizations needed an assurance that the medical commission cannot guarantee abortion coverage in every Exchange plan, wrote Rubiner. Thats why we did not oppose the Capps amendment that provides them with that assurance. It explicitly states that abortion will neither be mandated nor prohibited. It also mandates that every region will have at least one insurance plan that offers abortion coverage and one that does not, so people have a choice.
Pitts said he plans to ask the House Rules Committee to allow him to re-introduce the Stupak-Pitts amendment on the House floor when the bill comes up there. The amendment would essentially apply the provisions of the Hyde Amendment to the health-care bill. All of the bills that have passed out of committee have failed to address abortion funding concerns, Pitts said. And if a bill is brought before the House that expands public funding for abortion, Bart and I will offer an amendment to the Rules Committee to maintain the current policy of prohibiting public funds flowing to abortion or plans that cover abortion.
This is not about the legality or the illegality of abortion, Pitts said. It is about keeping the government out of the business of promoting abortion as health care. Killing human babies by abortion is not health care, Smith said. Publicly funding and facilitating abortion can in no way be construed as health care reform.
Planned Parenthood Health Care Coming to Your Public School, HR 3200, section 2511
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Wilson is correct. Obama lies.
Obama lies.
If the final bill does fund abortion, then Joe Wilson should take back his apology.
Obama lies.
I just posted this on Facebook.
On another note, I was sneered (sp?) at today by a group of women collecting donations for Susan G. Komen foundation. I told them I don’t donate because Komen donates to Planned Parenthood. One woman replied that my life at some point might be touched by breast cancer, and I might regret my current lack of support. I informed her that my grandma and aunt (both on mom’s side of fam) died of bc. Grandma was 69 and Aunt Pat was 47. I just recently had a sonogram for a lump I found. Negative, thank God. They did not like my response.
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One of many lies in the speech. Looks like he is getting away with this one and others. The only lie being dealt with is the illegals lie.
No what Obie meant to say was that the bill would not fund abortions for illegal aliens. One less junior democrat if that ever happened.
But seriously, wow, he is some kind of blatant liar.
“If the final bill does fund abortion, “
The trouble is that whatever is in the bill, they can fund abortion anyway according to many experts. Both pro-life Dems and Republicans are trying to get an amendment stating that abortion will not be paid for, to no avail.
That’s why ANY bill should be killed. They cannot be trusted.
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