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America Goes to Washington: I was wrong about the Tea Party Movement
Pajamas Media ^ | September 12th, 2009 7:30 pm | Roger L. Simon

Posted on 09/13/2009 5:35:07 AM PDT by fiodora

Boy, was I wrong. I can remember telling Glenn Reynolds during CPAC that these Tea Party demonstrations were rinky-dink and going nowhere. Barely more than a half-year later, they’re putting two million people on the Washington Mall. Wow! If I were Obama & Co., I’d be afraid, I’d be very afraid.

And no doubt they are. They bobbled the ball big time and I wouldn’t be surprised if heads are going to start to roll – and not just the obvious (and relatively inconsequential) ones like Van Jones. Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod are going to be looking at each other like nervous apparatchiks in the Politburo because someone is going to have take the bullet for the disaster they have wrought. Emanuel is looking like a particular dummy right now for opening his mouth about not missing a good crisis. It is from idiotic statements like that unread stimulus bills get passed or giant healthcare legislation proffered without anyone knowing the contents, not even (and maybe especially) the President.

No wonder the public is outraged. They have a perfect right to be.

One other note from an old protestor. When I made that statement to Glenn those many months back, I did it with the supposed authority of someone who had been at a lot of demonstrations when on the left. I can remember a couple that might have been nearly this big (not sure, really). But I can’t remember anything this size that was entirely non-violent. That’s rather miraculous for a two-million person demonstration and deserves the highest praise, though I doubt the mainstream media will say much. They’re still digesting how much they’re despised.

I do have one minute criticism. The person carrying the Obama/Hitler poster should have his/her wrist slapped. Hitler comparisons (except perhaps in the case of Ahmadinejad) are odious, stupid and insulting to the people murdered by Hitler. Enough.


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1 posted on 09/13/2009 5:35:09 AM PDT by fiodora
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To: fiodora
do have one minute criticism. The person carrying the Obama/Hitler poster should have his/her wrist slapped. Hitler comparisons (except perhaps in the case of Ahmadinejad) are odious, stupid and insulting to the people murdered by Hitler. Enough.

Wrong again, Rog. Some recommended reading....

Doctors Under Hitler (Paperback)

2 posted on 09/13/2009 5:38:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: fiodora

Obama may not have killed millions but he has a barely contained hatred that could easily lead him in that direction if he could gain the power of Hitler.


3 posted on 09/13/2009 5:41:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

I believe what you say. Obama would gladly get rid of Christians, Down’s syndromes and old people. I believe it with all my soul.


4 posted on 09/13/2009 5:42:52 AM PDT by mel
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To: fiodora
1) I don't think they're afraid at all. I think a few months ago they concluded they would pass health non-care whether or not 80% of the public was against it, in hopes of a) starting the goodies rolling before too many were voted out, and b) building a doomsday machine that couldn't be undone. Oh, the GOP might elect a bunch of people in 2010---but not the 100 CONSERVATIVES needed to repeal this mess.

2) Second, you have to understand that they would only be "afraid" if they REALLY were getting good information about the size of the opposition and the depth of the anger. But they aren't. ABC said 60,000. That's not even an OSU football game. It doesn't matter if the numbers were really two million, what matters is that Pelosi/Reid/Obama's staffers tell them repeatedly that these are a few kooks, and then they hear on MSNBC about the "tea-baggers" and laugh, and that's it.

Folks, you've got to get a little realistic here---not downplaying the size or significance of these movements at all---but in Maoist China, ALL the government advisors told Mao the "Great Leap Forward" was a success, and they staged massive phony shows of strange new genetically-bred crops, of wheat so big children could sit on it (it was a table underneath), of "surpluses" that the peasants had to leave on the side of the road (guarded by the military until the moment Mao passed by).

We are very much in danger of this situation. It's not JUST that Obama and his ilk are predisposed to ignoring stuff like this, but their "commanders in the field" are NOT giving Herr Hitler accurate information.

5 posted on 09/13/2009 5:44:21 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: mewzilla

I wouldn’t say he was wrong, he just hasn’t seen enough of getting rid of old people to convince him. Some people are harder to convince. But I certainly believe that Zero would gladly get rid of Christians, downs syndrome kids and the list just would go on and on.


6 posted on 09/13/2009 5:44:28 AM PDT by mel
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To: cripplecreek
he has a barely contained hatred

As is the case with all of his associates who harbor deep seated hatred of this country, its culture, and accomplishments.

7 posted on 09/13/2009 5:50:24 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: LS
We are very much in danger of this situation. It's not JUST that Obama and his ilk are predisposed to ignoring stuff like this, but their "commanders in the field" are NOT giving Herr Hitler accurate information.

Agreed. Obama is making an equal but opposite mistake from what Hitler made. Hitler had good commanders in the field who gave him good info but he chose to ignore it. Obama has yes men who tell him only what he wants to hear and cracks are beginning to show.
8 posted on 09/13/2009 5:52:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: LS

“1) I don’t think they’re afraid at all. [snip]
2) Second, you have to understand that they would only be “afraid” if they REALLY were getting good information about the size of the opposition and the depth of the anger.”

I am afraid you are 100% correct! And this administration is going to pass this monster distracting us with the “numbers” attending the Tea Party Protest, and we’re falling for it!

Thanks for your analysis and comments!


9 posted on 09/13/2009 5:55:19 AM PDT by fiodora
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To: fiodora
The last sentence it where this ex lefty author lost me... if any American president has been the reincarnation of hitler and his facism... it is barack hussein obama soetero marshall davis jones or whatever the kenyan usurpers name really is!

LLS

10 posted on 09/13/2009 5:55:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: cripplecreek
He has not killed millions yet... but if he gets his health-care crap passed... it will just be a matter of time. Fascism is Fascism.

LLS

11 posted on 09/13/2009 5:57:12 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LS
building a doomsday machine that couldn't be undone

Just as Obama has obscured his past, he obscures the future. He won't spell out the details of his vision for the country. This is VERY susupicious. Why hide your plans if you truely believe in them? The obvious conclusion is that he has sinister motives, just as you say.

12 posted on 09/13/2009 5:57:42 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: fiodora
Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod are going to be looking at each other like nervous apparatchiks in the Politburo because someone is going to have take the bullet for the disaster they have wrought. Emanuel is looking like a particular dummy right now for opening his mouth about not missing a good crisis. It is from idiotic statements like that unread stimulus bills get passed or giant healthcare legislation proffered without anyone knowing the contents, not even (and maybe especially) the President.

Evidential, the writer of this article is asleep or hiding under a rock when looking at this current administration.

Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod are not going to take a bullet for anything. They are currently working on making this million man rally into a racist, hate and fear mongering taking point memo for the SRM to spin to the innocent shepple out there who are not politically attuned

Does he actually think these thugs care what conservatives think or say or believe they are vulnerable to MSM criticism ?

13 posted on 09/13/2009 5:59:52 AM PDT by Popman (Obama "may" be a US citizen, but he's not an American)
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To: LS
They know... and their staffers know... and they do not depend on the media... they only USE the media... for they know the media is a lying division of their own propaganda machine... they are afraid and they know the truth... they are the ones instructing the media to tell lies about this... but they cannot lie away the anger in America and Americans will revolt if pushed. Do you truly think that fact does NOT scare them? Oh... they are scared to death.

LLS

14 posted on 09/13/2009 6:00:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Starboard

Obozo says that if his health care plans are a failure, he’ll take responsibility for them.

Unfortunately that means nothing because no matter how responsible he’ll feel, we’ll still be stuck to suffer under it for decades.


15 posted on 09/13/2009 6:02:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: fiodora

Those folks carrying Hitler signs have usually turned out to be LaRouche supporters. How does a free unstructured anti-big govt movement stop that? It doesn’t. Nor should it.

The facts of history make parallels between the rise of Hitler and the rise of Obama. In fact, there are parallels not only in post WW1 Germany’s vulnerability and political movement toward fascism, but also in the personal histories and psyches of the two men. We must not be intimidated into ignoring that.


16 posted on 09/13/2009 6:04:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: cripplecreek

right.


17 posted on 09/13/2009 6:04:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: LS

There are differences between what happened in China and what is happening here. Just to mention a few
1)We have a history of freedom and individualism they never had.
2)We have guiding documents (under threat in Public education)
3)We have the second amendment and plenty of ammunition and...
4) In God we trust....

Obama and his minions will be defeated in November 2010.


18 posted on 09/13/2009 6:06:02 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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To: cripplecreek
Obozo says that if his health care plans are a failure, he’ll take responsibility for them.

Oh, bully for you, Barry.

19 posted on 09/13/2009 6:06:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: silverleaf
The facts of history make parallels between the rise of Hitler and the rise of Obama.

Exactly right. There are extremely strong similarities in both of these National Socialist power grabs by leaders with Napoleon-like complexes.

20 posted on 09/13/2009 6:07:46 AM PDT by webschooner (First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win -- Mahatma Gandhi)
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To: LS

There are differences between what happened in China and what is happening here. Just to mention a few
1)We have a history of freedom and individualism they never had.
2)We have guiding documents (under threat in Public education)
3)We have the second amendment and plenty of ammunition and...
4) In God we trust....

Obama and his minions will be defeated in November 2010.


21 posted on 09/13/2009 6:07:48 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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To: LibLieSlayer
A direct quote from SEIU bylaws.

We must organize unorganized Healthcare workers, extending to them the gains of unionism while securing control over the Healthcare industry.

SEIU bylaws pdf

Put that together with ACORN hatred and lust for power and you have a dangerous situation. They lust for control as a means of punishing all who ever have or ever will oppose them.
22 posted on 09/13/2009 6:08:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

Good point. I do think Rahm knows what he’s doing. The rest of the czars are absolutely commie hacks, boobs, or left-wing loonies like Sunstein.


23 posted on 09/13/2009 6:10:54 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LibLieSlayer

Sorry, I don’t see Pelosi acting “scared” in the slightest. I don’t see OH gov. Ted Strickland acting scared. I don’t see any of these un-apologetic a-holes acting scared.


24 posted on 09/13/2009 6:12:28 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: UltraKonservativen
You're not getting it. Sure, they'll lose some seats in 2010. What, you think 10? 20? Whoo-hoo. So they still have a majority. But say they lose 100. It's not veto-proof. So nothing will be undone.

And remember, we're just talking "seats," not conservatives. If you have 100 seats change hands, and 30 of them are RINOS, effectively you haven't had a change at all.

As for the ammunition, the goal is to effect a quiet and complete revolution before anyone figures out that they need to load up.

And as for God, He never said He'd protect us. He said the same to us that He did to Israel, which is that as long as we were obedient, we were safe.

25 posted on 09/13/2009 6:15:39 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I think its Horowitz who says that they’re so busy lusting after the ideal that they can’t see their failures.


26 posted on 09/13/2009 6:16:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: fiodora

As grandmother used to say “Oh my stars”!

This, from Roger Simon? Many of us are startled by how many in the MSM are startled...but it’s not just a hackneyed idea that they need to get out of the beltway more..it’s a fact. They simply are incapable of comprehending who and what is America beyond their leftist echo chamber.

Welcome to the real world, Mr. Simon- look around- you may yet see it anew.


27 posted on 09/13/2009 6:16:33 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: cripplecreek
Obozo says that if his health care plans are a failure, he’ll take responsibility for them.

He's a narcissist of the first order. There's no way he can acknowledge any responsibility for any failure - ever. He'll simply pass the blame off on someone else, and say his own 'heroic' efforts were thwarted by enemies (all the while rolling a pair of steel ball bearings around in his hands a la Captain Queeg).

28 posted on 09/13/2009 6:17:24 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: fiodora
But I can’t remember anything this size that was entirely non-violent.

And how much trash was left behind? Remember the photos from the last libtard rally there?

29 posted on 09/13/2009 6:18:10 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Pay cash and live. Or die waiting for the gov's "free" care)
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To: UltraKonservativen
We certainly are very closely aligned with what happened in ‘30’s Germany. What is happening in our schools is the equivalent of the Nazi Book Burnings. They are taking out books that give the Conservative side, adding books and making them mandatory reading for students, that convey only the National Socialist/Marxist philosophy.

They are also indoctrinating the children more than ever and are making private/home schooled education against the law.

Of course, they just came into power and it is alarming how much they have accomplished of their agenda in such a short time. If they are allowed to keep going, then our guns, capitalist system, etc,,, will all be gone.

30 posted on 09/13/2009 6:21:06 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: fiodora
Barely more than a half-year later, they’re putting two million people on the Washington Mall. Wow! If I were Obama & Co., I’d be afraid, I’d be very afraid.

And the movement is still growing. It's nice to be able to SHOW THE WORLD that the dem controlled MSM is lying about conservatives. WE ARE NOT AN ANGRY MOB - we ARE CITIZENS. AND there are MILLIONS OF US.

31 posted on 09/13/2009 6:21:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (Glen Beck needs to show ALL the ACORN tapes. In for a penny - in for a pound...)
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To: mel

“I believe what you say. Obama would gladly get rid of Christians, Down’s syndromes and old people. I believe it with all my soul.”

Add Jews, Hindus, and any one not a Muslim of Hussein’s persuasion. That should reduce the total US population to something Hussien can manage...


32 posted on 09/13/2009 6:22:39 AM PDT by PIF
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To: LS
And remember, we're just talking "seats," not conservatives. If you have 100 seats change hands, and 30 of them are RINOS, effectively you haven't had a change at all.

Good point but having the majority (in the House) and therefore the speakership is not insignificant. The speaker weilds tremendous power.

33 posted on 09/13/2009 6:23:11 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: mewzilla

I’m sure that will be cold comfort to all those who had already perished under his “health” care.


34 posted on 09/13/2009 6:24:03 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.........)
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To: UltraKonservativen

“Obama and his minions will be defeated in November 2010.”

Motor Voter, ACORN and $8 billion can stuff/lose a whole lot of ballots. Works in Wisconsin and Washington State to name two.


35 posted on 09/13/2009 6:29:06 AM PDT by PIF
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To: fiodora
Hitler comparisons (except perhaps in the case of Ahmadinejad) are odious, stupid and insulting to the people murdered by Hitler. Enough.

He doesn't give Obama enough credit.

36 posted on 09/13/2009 6:33:20 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Really! What’s with the ban on comparing modern tyrants to Hitler?

Gibbs made a statement implying that Hitler was and will forever be unsurpassed in evil. My head almost exploded. News flash, Mr. Gibbs: Stalin, Idi Amin, Chairman Mao and Pol Pot have already proven you wrong.

What’s the sense of learning history if we REFUSE to believe it can never be repeated.


37 posted on 09/13/2009 6:33:40 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Starboard
And when the “Republican’ts had that power, they were absolutely worthless. Even the crybaby Democrats controlled them when they had a very strong majority in both houses and the White House.

They even made a move to guarantee the Democrats an equal voice. Today, the Democrats have completely shut them out of the process as a gesture of thanks. And the Republicans (majority) still believe they have to cooperate and be a part of what ever crumbs the Democrats hand them.

But most of them either vote right along with the Democrats, or they shiver in their chairs in fear of their angry voters who put them in office. It is clearly all about their pathetic careers and retirement benefits, not their principles or standing up for Conservative Principles.

38 posted on 09/13/2009 6:34:29 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: cripplecreek
When first elected, Hitler wasn't yet the Hitler he became notorious for. The signs are there about Obi. Childhood similarities, narcassistic behavior, etc. Hitler could have been stopped early, if people recognized him for the Hitler he would be.

Maybe, we can save Barry and ourselves from himself. If the poster gets people to ask "why?" and to look at the similarities, then it was appropriate. Yelling out "You Lie!" and "Liar!" is appropriate, too!

39 posted on 09/13/2009 6:36:55 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

there it it....LS and LLS, two, not just one.

Pay closer attention Bert.

I’ll go with LLS. I think fear is now come into play. The incessant major speeches, especially to a joint session, is demonstrable evidence of fear. The “You LIE” response from the floor reverberated around the world. Only mindnummed zealots denied the veracity of the two words. Many tried to hide that truth behind a fig leaf of lack of decorum, but knew that lies prevailed in the speech. The major wound was inflicted. It might be healed, but blood was drawn.

Spilled Presidential blood is a bad thing. It has been learned that to get a little blood on the floor is not difficult at all.

The crowds on the mall might be publicly be ignored, but they induced and multiplied fear.


40 posted on 09/13/2009 6:39:30 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Quotes of the century: 2001 "Lets Roll"..... 2009 "You Lie")
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To: cripplecreek
"Obama may not have killed millions but he has a barely contained hatred that could easily lead him in that direction if he could gain the power of Hitler."

It early yet, that's why we need to act now.

41 posted on 09/13/2009 6:39:37 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: PIF
4 Billion dollars to ACORN is like an advance campaign contribution to ObaMao. They already have a 4 year head start on 2012. And also 2 years on 2010.

There has been NOTHING done to stop them now, and there will be nothing to stop them in the future. They have just funneled the money to other shadow “organizations”. Like Katrina, the billions of dollars that just disappeared into thin air, have ACORN’s name all over it!

We are up against an evil the likes of which the World has not seen since Stalin/Hitler/Mao!

42 posted on 09/13/2009 6:42:34 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: fiodora

“It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government” - Thomas Paine


43 posted on 09/13/2009 6:46:31 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: fiodora
I do have one minute criticism. The person carrying the Obama/Hitler poster should have his/her wrist slapped. Hitler comparisons (except perhaps in the case of Ahmadinejad) are odious, stupid and insulting to the people murdered by Hitler. Enough

I happen to agree. BamaKennedy and his minions are much more akin to the Bolsheviks of Russia in the early 20th century than of the Hitler era. Hitler took advantage of an already destroyed German economy, now BamaKennedy is destroying the economy to take advantage.

44 posted on 09/13/2009 6:46:43 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
It is clearly all about their pathetic careers and retirement benefits, not their principles or standing up for Conservative Principles.

No question, they all get Potomac Fever when they come to DC. I mean, where else can you get a cushy gig like that? They are terrified of leaving and the thought of having to get a real job.

One thing Republicans will never understand is that they are going to get bashed no matter what, so they may as well stand for something.

Agree that Republicans have largely squandered their leadership opportunities in the past.

45 posted on 09/13/2009 6:48:33 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: fiodora
Hitler...enough


46 posted on 09/13/2009 6:49:31 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: CPOSharky
"And how much trash was left behind? Remember the photos from the last libtard rally there? "

I've been thinking about that too.

47 posted on 09/13/2009 6:50:46 AM PDT by blam
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To: mel

judging from the vile hatred of Sarah Palin.........the whole of the left hate Down’s children and prolifers.


48 posted on 09/13/2009 6:56:09 AM PDT by tioga ("You lie!" Joe Wilson 9-9-09)
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To: CPOSharky

“And how much trash was left behind?”

There were photos. Clean as a whistle. After Hussein’s inauguration trash was ankle deep, I believe.


49 posted on 09/13/2009 6:56:29 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (POWER TO THE PEOPLE)
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To: CPOSharky
And how much trash was left behind? Remember the photos from the last libtard rally there?

I'm curious about that too. I would bet there was very little trash left. The oh-so-environmentally conscious libs leave TONS of garbage after every one of their rallies.

50 posted on 09/13/2009 6:58:08 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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