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Body with severed arms in Mexico ID'd as Texas man
The Brownsville Herald/AP ^ | September 10, 2009 | ALICIA A. CALDWELL

Posted on 09/13/2009 2:39:54 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

EL PASO — A body found with its severed arms crossed and placed on its chest in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, was identified by authorities Wednesday as a Texas man kidnapped from his home.

Sergio Saucedo, 30, was kidnapped from his Horizon City house outside El Paso last Thursday. His mutilated body was found Tuesday, said El Paso County Sheriff's spokesman Jesse Tovar.

"It's apparent that the spillover has occurred," Tovar said of the drug violence plaguing Juarez and much of Mexico.

Saucedo, who has a long criminal record including convictions for drug possession and money laundering, was kidnapped by three men, investigators said. His wife told deputies the men broke into the house, bound Saucedo with duct tape and carried him out the back door to the driveway, where he was stuffed into a dark sport utility vehicle with no license plates.

Witnesses reported hearing at least one gun shot and said Saucedo struggled with his attackers as he yelled for help.

Saucedo's body was found dumped in the street late Tuesday with his severed arms placed on top of a cardboard sign on his chest, said Arturo Sandoval, spokesman for a regional prosecutor's office in Juarez. He said the killers stuffed plastic bags into Saucedo's mouth and taped his eyes.

The sign was immediately removed and authorities have not revealed what it said. Drug cartels often leave messages with victims they kill.

Ciudad Juarez is Mexico's deadliest city with more than 1,300 drug-related killings this year.

El Paso investigators believe Saucedo was killed in Mexico, but a specific motive for the kidnapping and killing remained unclear Wednesday, Tovar said.

Court records show Saucedo, who has used various aliases, had been convicted of money laundering, possession of cocaine with intent to distribute, trafficking marijuana and other drugs... ___

(Excerpt) Read more at brownsvilleherald.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: anotherdeadamerican; corruption; drugtrafficking; elpaso; juarez; kidnap; mexico; narcoterrorishere; wakeup
"It's apparent that the spillover has occurred, said El Paso County Sheriff's spokesman Jesse Tovar.

Finally!

1 posted on 09/13/2009 2:39:55 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

The good news is that in this case Mexico took out the trash.

But the bad news is that they are bold enough to do so.


2 posted on 09/13/2009 2:41:52 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: SwinneySwitch
I read the headline as “body with several arms”......in reading the article it does not sound like a great loss.....geez I really hate thinking that way but it was the life he chose to lead.....
3 posted on 09/13/2009 2:43:10 PM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, she's awake)
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To: SwinneySwitch
If we had any politicians with integrity and balls we would declare that the Mexican drug cartels are having a worse effect on the American population and economy as Al Quaida and declare a military war on them, regardless of borders.
4 posted on 09/13/2009 2:43:25 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: SwinneySwitch

So, Mexicans are cleaning up our sickos for us?


5 posted on 09/13/2009 2:43:49 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Liberals have an inability to value good character or to desire it for themselves.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Why the sudden rush to call Juarez ... “Ciudad Juarez” dosent it just mean City of Juarez? Did some one just look at a map and figured it was what every one called it? No one I know called it “Ciudad Juarez” and I’m from EP.


6 posted on 09/13/2009 2:44:29 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar. ---- "OBAMA: THE GREAT MISTAKE OF 2008")
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To: SwinneySwitch

Considering the rap sheet of the person involved I can’t say I really consider him to be a “victim.”


7 posted on 09/13/2009 2:44:29 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Mark was here
Why the sudden rush to call Juarez ... “Ciudad Juarez”

On a lot of older maps I've seen it called Ciudad Juarez. But the road signs in El Paso all say "Juarez."

8 posted on 09/13/2009 2:45:35 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ConservativeMind

yeah more jobs Americans (obama) wont do :-)


9 posted on 09/13/2009 2:45:41 PM PDT by lmarie373
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To: SwinneySwitch

The Obamanauts want to give them all amnesty!


10 posted on 09/13/2009 2:47:28 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: bunster; waterhill; FlyingEagle; Playa Pete; NorwegianViking; Texas resident; GulfBreeze; ...

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11 posted on 09/13/2009 2:52:16 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Unfortunately, the drug problem is Mexico is probably directly related to US success stemming the tide of drugs from Columbia.


12 posted on 09/13/2009 2:55:59 PM PDT by fso301
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To: SwinneySwitch; Nachum
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The areas in which rhetoric and action widely diverge include:

  • A willingness to abandon progress on implementation of a secure identification system based on state-issued driver's licenses using national standards for verification of "breeder" documents and electronic exchange of information among the states and the federal government. 

• Restriction of federal-local cooperation in the apprehension of foreigners illegally in the country.

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13 posted on 09/13/2009 2:56:18 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: SwinneySwitch

But, but they promised this wouldn’t ever spill over !!!

Like is hasn’t been for decades.


14 posted on 09/13/2009 3:25:45 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: ConservativeMind

bags into mouth
taped his eyes
severed arms

speak no evil
see no evil
do no evil


15 posted on 09/13/2009 3:25:47 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: fso301
Unfortunately, the drug problem is Mexico is probably directly related to US success stemming the tide of drugs from Columbia.

The "drug problem" in Mexico is directly related to the huge demand for illegal drugs by people in the United States.

The narcotraficantes in Mexico are not killing to supply drugs to addicts in Juarez or Tijuana; they are fighting over control of the illegal drug traffic to the U.S.

16 posted on 09/13/2009 3:54:14 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: SwinneySwitch
Remember the last time some Mexican criminals crossed the US boarder and attacked US citizens? What was our response ...

Build the wall now! And place Guard units on the boarder.

17 posted on 09/13/2009 4:27:05 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Logophile
The "drug problem" in Mexico is directly related to the huge demand for illegal drugs by people in the United States.

Correct but supply side remedies are little more than squeezing a balloon. We squeezed the balloon over Columbia and the Mexican part suddenly bulged.

18 posted on 09/13/2009 4:29:09 PM PDT by fso301
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To: SwinneySwitch


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

19 posted on 09/13/2009 4:58:19 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Natural Law
That, Mr. Law, will be up to us....zer0 and his merry band of gay blades hasn't a ball between them. The only person in the zer0 admin who may posses some balls at all would be Hillary...she might actually do something if she had the power......

...maybe??

20 posted on 09/13/2009 5:07:10 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: fso301
Correct but supply side remedies are little more than squeezing a balloon.

True.

If we really want to hurt the illegal drug trade, we can reduce the demand by going after the users of illegal drugs. Or we can reduce the incentive to engage in illegal activity by decriminalizing the drugs. I doubt there is political will to do either.

21 posted on 09/13/2009 5:21:55 PM PDT by Logophile
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22 posted on 09/13/2009 5:50:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Logophile

“The “drug problem” in Mexico is directly related to the huge demand for illegal drugs by people in the United States.”

Might be ‘related’, but it’s not the cause...Keep Mexicans in Mexico and we won’t have the drug problem we have...did you notice how the drug use has gone up right along with the illegal immigration???

Chicken or egg...Secure the border.


23 posted on 09/13/2009 5:58:08 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
Might be ‘related’, but it’s not the cause...Keep Mexicans in Mexico and we won’t have the drug problem we have...did you notice how the drug use has gone up right along with the illegal immigration???

Is it your contention that the drug cartels are simply supplying the demand for drugs by illegal aliens in the United States?

Or are you suggesting that illegal immigration somehow causes U. S. citizens to become drug addicts?

24 posted on 09/13/2009 6:08:28 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile

I said what I meant. Mexican illegal aliens are bringing in the drugs, drug usage has increased with the never ending supply.....when the Mexican cartels are not growing them here and burning down hundreds of thousands of acres of our public lands.

Now Mexico has legalized possession of all drugs..even heroin.
More of the ingredients for Meth go to Mexico than anywhere and they bring all that with them....we ‘citizens’ can’t even buy a Sudafed without registering!


25 posted on 09/13/2009 6:27:55 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
I said what I meant. Mexican illegal aliens are bringing in the drugs, drug usage has increased with the never ending supply.....when the Mexican cartels are not growing them here and burning down hundreds of thousands of acres of our public lands.

Perhaps. But the drug cartels would not be doing these things if it were not for the huge profits to be made in supplying illegal drugs to our fellow Americans.

Mexico has a crime problem, but we have the drug problem.

I agree with you that we must secure our borders. However, that by itself will not stop smuggling, whether of drugs or of people. To accomplish that, something must be done to reduce the demand for drugs and cheap labor.

26 posted on 09/13/2009 6:39:55 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: CapnJack
Here's the fence at El Paso.

http://americanpatrol.com/ABP/SURVEYS/BORDER-2009/ELP_SECTOR/HTML-ELP_SECTOR/Sector.html

27 posted on 09/13/2009 8:07:59 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: SwinneySwitch

I would be interested to know the nationality of the “victim.” Was he born in El Paso, or in Mexico? Is he an American citizen, and if not, why was he living in Horizon City? If so, WTF? Are the narcotraficantes buying their way into green cards and permanent residency? Or are native born El Pasoans joining the narcotraficantes in Mexico and living “safely” in the United States? Much left unsaid in this AP story.


28 posted on 09/13/2009 8:17:52 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: SwinneySwitch

I wonder why a person who lives that type of life style doesn’t go armed to the teeth in his own home. I do, and I am not in danger of being offed by drug dealers.


29 posted on 09/13/2009 9:04:23 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Logophile

“I agree with you that we must secure our borders. However, that by itself will not stop smuggling, whether of drugs or of people. To accomplish that, something must be done to reduce the demand for drugs and cheap labor.”

The proper forces, shooting a couple of those coyote drug runners would stop this crap in a month. And it would be a lot kinder to the ‘migrants’ who are dying and being raped in that desert. Then the supply drys up. If we must grow dope on public lands, at least let a US citizen do it! The cartels are in my neighborhood fighting EACH OTHER for territory...800 miles from the border.

It’s TOO late to try to rehab millions of addicts. And you know how lousy the government would be at that. The one thing they are capable of is defending our borders...if there was the will.


30 posted on 09/13/2009 9:33:23 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: La Lydia

I would lay odds the victim is an ANCHOR BABY. You know, that second generation of latino immigrants that Geraldo tells us has assimilated so well?????


31 posted on 09/13/2009 9:35:14 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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